[M3WC]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

A model that instantly came to mind for me was the pre E36/7 Z3 LCI versus the Z3 LCI. The entire rear end was updated for the LCI. Rear quarter panels, trunk lid, bumper cover, and tail lights.

Edit, I forgot about the rear LCI on the E90 as mentioned above.

These days though it is not a 100% guarantee that the rear end of the vehicle will see any updating via an LCI. The G07 X7 just received a minor update to the rear end unlike the front that was significantly updated.

Another would be the BMW 7 series (G11/G12). That might be the most changed model ever between pre-LCI vs LCI.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by ElHeffe

In the vid that someone provided, both the front and rear light shapes were chosen to make the car look as wide as possible. He specifically called out using single projectors to do it. I'm doubtful it will change for that reason. Here's the vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM0FCUBtcuM

Haven't watched the full video, but if that's what he said then I'm shocked. Wider lights make the car look wider, just like wider grilles in the front do. Anything that's horizontal will draw the eye in the direction. You don't have to be to be a designer to understand that; everyone instinctively already does, consciously or subconsciously.

[TrentMeister]

"ThAnKs BmW mY f87 VaLuE"

[MmmmmM2]

Originally Posted by TrentMeister

"ThAnKs BmW mY f87 VaLuE"

I'll never understand that. I don't expect the value of my F87 to go up at all.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

I'll never understand that. I don't expect the value of my F87 to go up at all.

Right, because once an LCI arrives or an all new replacement model launches the value tends to decline. It is the way of the world and more specifically the automotive business.

[donm527]

He said going with the single lamps gave him more room to play in the front which gave him the ability to make the kidney grills wider to give the front a wider look.

I think he did ok with using the grill to give the wider look while doing the omaje to the 2002 with the single lamp which they also used isn’t the 2002 Hommage.

Originally Posted by Tag

Haven't watched the full video, but if that's what he said then I'm shocked. Wider lights make the car look wider, just like wider grilles in the front do. Anything that's horizontal will draw the eye in the direction. You don't have to be to be a designer to understand that; everyone instinctively already does, consciously or subconsciously.

[T_U_D]

I am okay with the front. It is the rear that irritates me. First it was the taillights and now it is the bumper cover. Fingers crossed that it is just the angle that the photos were taken at.

[Dabozo]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

I'll never understand that. I don't expect the value of my F87 to go up at all.

the value does go up...as in, if u own one already, its value TO YOU has just risen.
When the G87 was announced, I had an open mind and was comfortable with the potential scenario of giving up my F87 for it...now?? Forgetaboutit...im already eyeing some new wheels etc for my car...things I had shelved until I knew more about the G87...

[Tag]

Originally Posted by donm527

He said going with the single lamps gave him more room to play in the front which gave him the ability to make the kidney grills wider to give the front a wider look.

I think he did ok with using the grill to give the wider look while doing the omaje to the 2002 with the single lamp which they also used isn’t the 2002 Hommage.

The grille is definitely wider, but there was still plenty of room to widen the headlights. Get rid of that notch and you have room for another projector. Also, look at the F30/2 and G20, the headlights come right up against the side of the kidney grilles.

Now I'm tempted to Photoshop this...

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by ElHeffe

In the vid that someone provided, both the front and rear light shapes were chosen to make the car look as wide as possible. He specifically called out using single projectors to do it. I'm doubtful it will change for that reason. Here's the vid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM0FCUBtcuM

That was a good vid

[Tag]

donm527

Not my best work, but you get the idea.

[RideM]

Originally Posted by MmmmmM2

I'll never understand that. I don't expect the value of my F87 to go up at all.

It won't stop a depreciating asset but an increase in demand will slow that curve

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Tag

donm527

Not my best work, but you get the idea.

It looks more inline with how a BMW should look, but it also appears like a 3-Series at the same time.

[DB_Cooper]

Originally Posted by RideM

It won't stop a depreciating asset but an increase in demand will slow that curve

It also depends if you paid $65k or $55k for the car (M2C pricing).

[donm527]

Cool job. Does look good... I can be happy with both designs honestly if the went with the 3-series type lights. But single bulb is also interesting and unique.

Designer said in video he wanted a more rounded taillight. Don't remember if he meant like a single light to match the front?? But it sounds like he had to compromise. Sounds like he wanted to make it a unique little pocket rocket with some different elements from the rest

Originally Posted by Tag

donm527

Not my best work, but you get the idea.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by donm527

He said going with the single lamps gave him more room to play in the front which gave him the ability to make the kidney grills wider to give the front a wider look.

I think he did ok with using the grill to give the wider look while doing the omaje to the 2002 with the single lamp which they also used isn’t the 2002 Hommage.

But the 2002 has only been mentioned about a billion times, as inspiration, starting with the 135 coupe. Not sure I buy that reasoning, but whatever.

I’ve never seen a brand just remove design elements, for which that marquee is known, and in such a Willy nilly kind of fashion.

This car isn’t pretty, but quad headlights would have certainly helped the front end’s looks.

Wonder why they didn’t use inspiration from the 2002 for a single tailpipe too. That might have helped the rear.

I mean, why not just make the front end look like this?

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by donm527

Cool job. Does look good... I can be happy with both designs honestly if the went with the 3-series type lights. But single bulb is also interesting and unique.

Designer said in video he wanted a more rounded taillight. Don't remember if he meant like a single light to match the front?? But it sounds like he had to compromise. Sounds like he wanted to make it a unique little pocket rocket with some different elements from the rest

"Pocket rocket"…lol…Not at 1700kg, its approaching barge status.

[donm527]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

"Pocket rocket"…lol…Not at 1700kg, its approaching barge status.

Lol, yeah not in weight. And actually I haven't taken a look at the tape for length compared to the 3 Series. But suppose to be the smallest current BMW model and the B58 in the M240i makes it at least a rocket

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by Tag

donm527

Not my best work, but you get the idea.

Damn how easy is that??

It looks wider too

[TrentMeister]

Originally Posted by DB_Cooper

It also depends if you paid $65k or $55k for the car (M2C pricing).

Found you🤨

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by Tag

Really hope they give it the dual headlight projectors for the LCI, but highly doubt it.

Like the M6 on the right?

I don't believe dual projects would work well on this body style, as there isn't enough real estate to comfortably accommodate dual beams/DRL without it appearing bloby.. They would be too close to each other, without almost no diffusion. Also, cost-cutting wise, the LCI 2 Series will more than likely end up with similar looking headlights just with the DRL inverted.

BMW is phasing out the laser light option in exchange for an advance matrix setup. So there will be a base adaptive version or upper-tier matrix lights and I sincerely doubt the lowly 2 Series will get such a costly technological options. So this specific adaptive LED design, more or less, is here to stay.

As far the taillights go, BMW has to keep up with US regulations on the photometric size requirement for the brake light and turn signals, so they could only stray so far from the current design with the already limited illuminated surface area, so I wouldn't expect much of a change there either.

[PAS]

Originally Posted by Tag

Can you link an example? I've never seen that be the case.

Big changes from the F20 1 series LCI 1 too...