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      08-19-2023, 05:35 PM   #45
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Yes, I am almost certain that it will have this.

Regarding the 48V hybrid, I guess we won't know until those of us that are getting the first units will be able to confirm or deny that it is actually on the car. Sometimes too, things change from early production models to later production models.
Please let us know if your car has the mild hybrid.

I do not want the regen braking to effect my sporty driving on twisty roads so I will cancel my order if it has it.
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      08-19-2023, 06:28 PM   #46
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Does anyone here have experience with other mild hybrids? Can you tell us how annoying the regenerative braking is?
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      08-19-2023, 06:33 PM   #47
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Mine is sitting at Finished Production and I live pretty close to Galvestion (which I guess is the first stop?). The dealer says I should have mine in early Sept. Kinda hoping for it not to have mild hybrid, but I could take it or leave it.
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      08-20-2023, 03:51 AM   #48
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Mine is sitting at Finished Production and I live pretty close to Galvestion (which I guess is the first stop?). The dealer says I should have mine in early Sept. Kinda hoping for it not to have mild hybrid, but I could take it or leave it.
Please keep us updated
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      08-20-2023, 05:44 AM   #49
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Please keep us updated
The question is whether his car is a 2023 or 2024. Since the delivery is expected soon I doubt it was built after August 1st.
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      08-20-2023, 11:36 AM   #50
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It says it's going to be a 2024. The build date was 8/11.
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It says it's going to be a 2024. The build date was 8/11.
I checked my build date which was August 8th. I live in Texas also. We will probably be on the same boat.

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      08-21-2023, 07:43 AM   #52
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Please let us know if your car has the mild hybrid.

I do not want the regen braking to effect my sporty driving on twisty roads so I will cancel my order if it has it.
Cancelling the order just for the addition of the mild hybrid system seems a bit overkill to me, this is not an electric vehicle, the regen braking in this 48v system is barely noticeable, i don't think it could every affect your spirited driving
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      08-21-2023, 07:48 AM   #53
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Cancelling the order just for the addition of the mild hybrid system seems a bit overkill to me, this is not an electric vehicle, the regen braking in this 48v system is barely noticeable, i don't think it could every affect your spirited driving
Fair, I can be a bit overzealous and OCD. I’ve watched a few review videos on the 48v mild hybrid M340i and M440i and it doesn’t seem like it’s a bad thing at all. Gonna keep it!
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      08-21-2023, 09:10 AM   #54
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Cancelling the order just for the addition of the mild hybrid system seems a bit overkill to me, this is not an electric vehicle, the regen braking in this 48v system is barely noticeable, i don't think it could every affect your spirited driving
I believe regen is also turned off in sport modes.
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      08-21-2023, 11:26 AM   #55
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I believe regen is also turned off in sport modes.
I’m not sure about that others say it’s more intense. But I’m genuinely not sure
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At least in spain, where we have a contamination sticker regulation, the car is still advertised as category "C" instead category "ECO" that is for mild hybrid cars.
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      08-21-2023, 04:11 PM   #57
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Cancelling the order just for the addition of the mild hybrid system seems a bit overkill to me, this is not an electric vehicle, the regen braking in this 48v system is barely noticeable, i don't think it could every affect your spirited driving
it's more just annoying. if the ASS button is still there then thats totally fine, but if they take that button away and you have to dig through menus to get it off or constantly keep it in sport, then that is a totally fair QOL type of feature to be picky about for a $50k+ car you will use nearly every day
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      08-21-2023, 06:39 PM   #58
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Hey guys,
M240i owner here! I’ve driven an X4 M40i in France for a week and had no issues with the mild hybrid EXCEPT the reduction in engine noise (no pops/crackles).

Start/stop is smoother and the cars engine shuts off on the highway but braking feel is not affected…tbh braking feel is quite sh** in the M240i.

It would be sad to see this disappear from the M240i because it is meant to be the fun sporty option! It’s the only reason I didn’t go for the M440i

I reside in Australia and we don’t have OPF on our M240i’s

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      08-21-2023, 07:11 PM   #59
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M240i owner here! I’ve driven an X4 M40i in France for a week and had no issues with the mild hybrid EXCEPT the reduction in engine noise (no pops/crackles).

Start/stop is smoother and the cars engine shuts off on the highway but braking feel is not affected…tbh braking feel is quite sh** in the M240i.

It would be sad to see this disappear from the M240i because it is meant to be the fun sporty option! It’s the only reason I didn’t go for the M440i

I reside in Australia and we don’t have OPF on our M240i’s

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The U.S. model should still be without OPF, I presume? Your Euro X4 has it, hence the loss of exhaust sound.
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I wish my m240i had the 48v hybrid after I read the BMW tech PDF on it and talked to a x3 m40i owner that has it. Maybe if this was my sporty car I might prefer to skip it, but for my use it sounds appealing. Little more torque off the line, and tons of extra fuel economy. The x3 m40i big heavy SUV with the 48v B58 crushes the MPG in our lighter and more aerodynamic 2 series without it.

Pretty cool tech. The starter on the bellhousing is gone. The alternator is replaced with a starter/generator unit that drives the engine on the serpentine belt. The 48v battery goes in the empty cowl compartment opposite of the brake booster.
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I wish my m240i had the 48v hybrid after I read the BMW tech PDF on it and talked to a x3 m40i owner that has it. Maybe if this was my sporty car I might prefer to skip it, but for my use it sounds appealing. Little more torque off the line, and tons of extra fuel economy. The x3 m40i big heavy SUV with the 48v B58 crushes the MPG in our lighter and more aerodynamic 2 series without it.

Pretty cool tech. The starter on the bellhousing is gone. The alternator is replaced with a starter/generator unit that drives the engine on the serpentine belt. The 48v battery goes in the empty cowl compartment opposite of the brake booster.
if you blind tested yourself and had to put money on if you were right, you would not be able to notice the 11hp "boost" lol glad you're into the bmw marketing tho, this literally exists to meet US emissions standards and serves no other purpose. thats why many other countries dont have it
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      08-22-2023, 12:42 PM   #62
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Whoever gets the first 24 we will know. The Dealer confirmed mine will have it and it is going to start production on Sept 12. i like the mild hyrbid in the x5, pulls hard
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So will the '24 M240i get the B58TU2 with the 48v mild-hybrid technology?

I don't know what to think about it as I wanted to order the new G42 and thought it was a pure petrol engine... Coming from my actual B58, I hope it would push more

Edit: anyone know if it will be US only or for the European market too?
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if you blind tested yourself and had to put money on if you were right, you would not be able to notice the 11hp "boost" lol glad you're into the bmw marketing tho, this literally exists to meet US emissions standards and serves no other purpose. thats why many other countries dont have it
Lol
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      08-23-2023, 11:34 AM   #65
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Found this on an X3 forum:

All BMWs with the 48v hybrid systems no longer have the start stop button. And no it's not completely seamless but definitely better than it was without the system.
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      08-23-2023, 05:22 PM   #66
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Lol at shoveling down every bit of marketing that a multi multi billion dollar incentivized by EPA/NHTSA break$ is feeding you 😂 I’m sure bmw loves when people throw money at them for features that line their pocket so carry on
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