[M3WC]

Originally Posted by themk

The front bumper on the spy car looks like a place holder unless there building new housing for the front lights witch I believe would be a first. All the vents and grates also look cheap. I assume they are doing this on purpose to throw off media. I think it will be more in line with the above renders or the m3 bumper.

Originally Posted by Game

It's way too deep into testing for these to be a place holder bumper. We've established this will have different headlights than the G42. This is the real deal.

Different headlights has not been established. It will use the same headlights as base 2series. There will just be vents under the inner portion.

This render gives an idea of whats happening under the headlight camo.

[flybigjet]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Different headlights has not been established. It will use the same headlights as base 2series. There will just be vents under the inner portion.

This render gives an idea of whats happening under the headlight camo.

A million dollar car with a $27 front clip.

Sigh.

[heavyD^2]

I think the biggest mistake is not making a proper headlight for the bumper cover. If it was a $35k hot hatch parts bin car that's one thing but I don't think it's acceptable at the M2 asking price.

[M2Cmtl]

Is the G87 even wider than the M240i? Hard to tell, seems like it's a little wider? I would not expect different headlights just for the M2. Also expecting a huge price bump for this gen. the F87 was a bargin.

On a side note, you can now get a carbon roof on an M340i (in Canada anyways). That kind of blew my mind.

[Project_F87]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

Is the G87 even wider than the M240i? Hard to tell, seems like it's a little wider? I would not expect different headlights just for the M2. Also expecting a huge price bump for this gen. the F87 was a bargin.

On a side note, you can now get a carbon roof on an M340i (in Canada anyways). That kind of blew my mind.

It's way wider lol

[sikotic]

What really gets me is how all the drivers look like Ralph from scary movie 3

[S65V8]

would be great if somebody re-did the renders for the latest photos Current ones don't seem proportionate any longer.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by heavyD^2

Wow. It's crazy that BMW managed to have a record sales year as the top selling luxury brand in the world after losing sales to you and your inner circle of friends.

When your pantry is full, of course you sell more than the one who has nothing, even if it’s crap…

Also, with the amount of new cheap materials like shinny (scratchy) plastic that BMW puts everywhere which looks like shit after a few washes, glued iPads that look installed by two kids in the garage, missing central consoles and the new fake leather that BMW will bring soon, you can forget about some Adjectives like “luxury brand”. There is NOTHING luxury in the materials that are used in certain areas lately.
Some may call themselves luxury, but the fact that they claim it it doesn’t mean is true. Depends how educated you are in the field.

Not last, some new BMW models make Fiat Multipla look beautiful…

[Game]

Originally Posted by M3WC

Different headlights has not been established. It will use the same headlights as base 2series. There will just be vents under the inner portion.

This render gives an idea of whats happening under the headlight camo.


[IMG]https://cdn.bmwblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/bmw_m2_g87_render_00.jpg[IMG]

You know this for a fact?

We had a member that had some insider info that stated the headlights were indeed different. To what capacity I don't know.

[prompt]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

When your pantry is full, of course you sell more than the one who has nothing, even if it’s crap…

Also, with the amount of new cheap materials like shinny (scratchy) plastic that BMW puts everywhere which looks like shit after a few washes, glued iPads that look installed by two kids in the garage, missing central consoles and the new fake leather that BMW will bring soon, you can forget about some Adjectives like “luxury brand”. There is NOTHING luxury in the materials that are used in certain areas lately.
Some may call themselves luxury, but the fact that they claim it it doesn’t mean is true. Depends how educated you are in the field.

Not last, some new BMW models make Fiat Multipla look beautiful…

I cannot agree more, sales record LOL!
People have no clue how big OEMs and dealer network work together

The new M2 should be 1984 mm wide, based on the information we have got, just for reference a Ferrari Enzo is 2035mm
With a car this wide, proportions are already so good to make it look wide and nail the stance we all like
Let's wait for the final result, but so far I'm not impressed at all

[hsjhitts]

🔥

[Game]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

When your pantry is full, of course you sell more than the one who has nothing, even if it’s crap…

Also, with the amount of new cheap materials like shinny (scratchy) plastic that BMW puts everywhere which looks like shit after a few washes, glued iPads that look installed by two kids in the garage, missing central consoles and the new fake leather that BMW will bring soon, you can forget about some Adjectives like “luxury brand”. There is NOTHING luxury in the materials that are used in certain areas lately.
Some may call themselves luxury, but the fact that they claim it it doesn’t mean is true. Depends how educated you are in the field.

Not last, some new BMW models make Fiat Multipla look beautiful…

That's a little harsh.

Does BMW now have more lower entry vehicles? Absolutely. But you can't sit in a loaded X7/750/8 series and tell me previous generations were more "luxurious".

[Niko ZV]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Once again the leaks on here are proven to be correct.

This is going the same way as the G8x release. First the leaks, the denials that it can't be true, and then everything all starts to become reality.

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Once again the leaks on here are proven to be correct.

This is going the same way as the G8x release. First the leaks, the denials that it can't be true, and then everything all starts to become reality.

True

[trey100]

Is 455 HP the final figure? With the added weight was hoping for a bit more.

[Xspeedracer]

Can't wait to get one hopefully I can get it in Corso Rosso

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by trey100

Is 455 HP the final figure? With the added weight was hoping for a bit more.

How heavy are we expecting this thing to be? Sure there will be more tech than the F87, but no AWD like in the G87. I'm sure carbon seats/roof and all will be optional but the base car shouldn't be that heavy? The F87 was no light weight.

[alan7467]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

How heavy are we expecting this thing to be? Sure there will be more tech than the F87, but no AWD like in the G87. I'm sure carbon seats/roof and all will be optional but the base car shouldn't be that heavy? The F87 was no light weight.

The base G42 is 3519lbs and the m240 is pushing 3870lbs. So maybe around 3700 for the G87 in manual form? IDK. I guess it'll be at a least a few months before we know.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by M2Cmtl

Is the G87 even wider than the M240i?

Yes.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by trey100

Is 455 HP the final figure? With the added weight was hoping for a bit more.

How hard are you disappointed to know that 455hp is actually more power output than the F87 top dog (M2 CS aka M2 €$) ?

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Not really...
At least for all my BMW friends.
In my circle we are over 10 guys that bought a different car in the last 2 years and walked away from the M3/M4.

Great anecdotal data. I know several lifelong AMG people that are willing to wait 5 months for an allocation. Time will tell.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

When your pantry is full, of course you sell more than the one who has nothing, even if it’s crap…

Also, with the amount of new cheap materials like shinny (scratchy) plastic that BMW puts everywhere which looks like shit after a few washes, glued iPads that look installed by two kids in the garage, missing central consoles and the new fake leather that BMW will bring soon, you can forget about some Adjectives like “luxury brand”. There is NOTHING luxury in the materials that are used in certain areas lately.
Some may call themselves luxury, but the fact that they claim it it doesn’t mean is true. Depends how educated you are in the field.

Not last, some new BMW models make Fiat Multipla look beautiful…

oh, so you dont like the grilles.

BTW, the new G80 interior is phenomenal, especially for the money. It's not a Bentley but it's pretty nice full leather.

[M2Cmtl]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

Great anecdotal data. I know several lifelong AMG people that are willing to wait 5 months for an allocation. Time will tell.

Every car under the sun has a wait time these days so that argument is really pointless.

But for sure some people like BMWs new designs. Just the lowly enthusiast that are getting the shaft. But it’s the same with every car company (no more manuals, huge, heavy AWD cars)

The G87, even if the design won’t be peak BMW will probably be the last BMW with the old school formula.