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      10-24-2014, 10:05 AM   #1
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Your ideal/perfect track wheel set up?

I'm a wheel whore. Yes, we all know. I'm purchasing a few sets right now.
I have my show/meet set. I'm working on my weekend/daily set.

Next, I'm thinking of a designated track set up. I have had the TE37 in the past, but I'm looking for a set up that won't cost as much, since I won't be doing much tracking, since she's a garage queen. I'm thinking 18" and maybe APEX wheels.. What perfect specs do you guys thing would work with most of our platforms?
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      10-24-2014, 10:07 AM   #2
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anything 18x9.5 with low 30 offset for 265/35-18 sticky street

or 17x9 with mid 30 offset for 255/40-17 r-comp
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anything 18x9.5 with low 30 offset for 265/35-18 sticky street

or 17x9 with mid 30 offset for 255/40-17 r-comp
So you're thinking a square set up 18x9.5? I've thought of this, and I don't think the 265/35 would clear my fronts.
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So you're thinking a square set up 18x9.5? I've thought of this, and I don't think the 265/35 would clear my fronts.
What suspension and alignment settings you running? It's doable:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1047823
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you can fit 9.5 with 265 up front and in back but not with room to run the camber you'd want on the track. You'd be better off with a 9" with 255 all around.
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What suspension and alignment settings you running? It's doable:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1047823
Doing KW V3 with custom alignment.
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you can fit 9.5 with 265 up front and in back but not with room to run the camber you'd want on the track. You'd be better off with a 9" with 255 all around.
I like this idea, actually.. Have you tried this set up?
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you can fit 9.5 with 265 up front and in back but not with room to run the camber you'd want on the track. You'd be better off with a 9" with 255 all around.
Wait you're saying adding more camber (which is preferable for track) would make it harder to run 265's?
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      10-24-2014, 12:14 PM   #9
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Wheel whore, indeed...I'm jealous
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I'm a wheel whore. Yes, we all know. I'm purchasing a few sets right now.
I have my show/meet set. I'm working on my weekend/daily set.

Next, I'm thinking of a designated track set up. I have had the TE37 in the past, but I'm looking for a set up that won't cost as much, since I won't be doing much tracking, since she's a garage queen. I'm thinking 18" and maybe APEX wheels.. What perfect specs do you guys thing would work with most of our platforms?
I use Apex 17x9.5 et 35 and 255 square with 5mm spacer on fronts. You can also run 255f and 265/275r no issues. Very light wheels, clear 355mm Stoptechs and cheap tires. You can also use 17x9 et30 wheels. The best value set-up in my opinion and wheels look like new after 2 years of tracking.
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Quote:
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I'm a wheel whore. Yes, we all know. I'm purchasing a few sets right now.
I have my show/meet set. I'm working on my weekend/daily set.

Next, I'm thinking of a designated track set up. I have had the TE37 in the past, but I'm looking for a set up that won't cost as much, since I won't be doing much tracking, since she's a garage queen. I'm thinking 18" and maybe APEX wheels.. What perfect specs do you guys thing would work with most of our platforms?
I'll go with 18x9.5 with 275/45. Maybe on APEX - ARC-8 Wheels?
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I'll go with 18x9.5 with 275/45. Maybe on APEX - ARC-8 Wheels?

I've bought quite a few things for you guys.
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I'm running 17x9 et30 ARC-8's with the aforementioned 255 fitment and while I am happy with the grip, weight reduction etc, I have lost some response and feel from the tall sidewalls. Were I to do it again, I'd go staggered 18x9/18x10 because in reality if you are really pushing your street car on the track, you're eating through tires anyway and I'd rather have the most corner exit traction on a street car that's already running staggered (and hence probably not an alignment that is optimized for square).

Just my most recent thoughts on the matter.
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We run 18x9.5 square on our race car with 275/35 BFG R1.
Your suspension will dictate how much of a spacer you'll need. In a past setup, we had AST's and only needed a 5mm spacer. Now we're running Ohlins and the same wheel and we need a 20mm spacer (up front, rears are no problem).
If we could do it over, we'd go wtih 18x9, just to give us a little more room and help the wheels fit easier. You'd still be able to fit a 275 width tire no problem.
They will definitely clear, it's just a matter of how the KW V3 works with the wheels.

First pic is with the 20mm spacer, second is with the 5mm spacer.
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Ive been tossing around the idea of running 18x9.5 et35 with 265's square.

Im not sure how feasable that is for the front though.
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Since you've already had TE's, I would suggest getting either 17" or 18" ARC-8's or 18" Enkei NT03's
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I run 18x9 Apex Arc 8 on 275/35/18 Nitto NT01. slightly pinched but still in the allowable range for the tire width. I run +29.5 offsett in the front and about -2.8 camber and there is enough space in the front of stock e92.
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Quote:
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I like this idea, actually.. Have you tried this set up?
its what i currently run actually.

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Wait you're saying adding more camber (which is preferable for track) would make it harder to run 265's?
it's not preferable in back on our car a ton of negative camber in the rear increases understeer all things being equal
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Lightweight 17x9 with 255/40-17

APEX ARC8s (concave) are in my future.
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i was told by apex that the 17x9 square and 17x9.5 square are the most popular sizes for our cars for dedicated track setup.
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Lightest and cheapest tire cost.
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