[JustinHEMI]

Originally Posted by 6speed_M2

The M2 is once again being held back from its full potential. No surprise from BMW but yet again the M3 is the bigger and better brother to the M2.

I disagree. It's going to meet it's full potential as a RWD hooligan.

[6speed_M2]

Originally Posted by 6speed_M2

It certainly doesn't have to be xDrive only. There should be the option for the RWD auto and the manual just like the M3. You can also get the xDrive and still have the 10 stage traction control for the RWD setting as well.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that BMW decided to give the M2 most of the love from the M4 (interior, carbon roof, etc) from what the speculations have been telling us thus far. I just don't like that they held off from what is my favorite part of the car.

JustinHEMI

[j23]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Mexico may mean less time on a boat after you order!

Yeah, or your car getting seized by the cartels before it ever reaches the borders.

[adc]

That latest video, the driver is absolutely hauling ass on the Ring. Car looks composed but in some sections you can tell the weight, the way it lands on its bump stops.

Either way looks to be very quick, and balanced. I’m excited…

Now if they only made it in Europe as well, and bring back Euro Delivery. Wishful thinking I know.

[THEROK]

Originally Posted by stefan

This wing harkens back to the e36 m3 days. I love it. This car is going to be awesome.

Totally. I even look forward to the even higher version they featured on the e36 lightweight.

Someone at M finally knows what they're doing. They were hungover during the g80 design session.

[EDWYER]

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

I disagree. It's going to meet it's full potential as a RWD hooligan.

Originally Posted by JustinHEMI

I disagree. It's going to meet it's full potential as a RWD hooligan.

Yep!

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by adc

That latest video, the driver is absolutely hauling ass on the Ring. Car looks composed but in some sections you can tell the weight, the way it lands on its bump stops.

Either way looks to be very quick, and balanced. I'm excited…

Now if they only made it in Europe as well, and bring back Euro Delivery. Wishful thinking I know.

I see what you mean; the way how it bottoms out at the 2:17 point in the video, you can tell it's packing on the pounds but it still handles with grace and looks fast enough to outrun the cops, so I'm sold.. 😛

[clutchdj]

Originally Posted by adc

That latest video, the driver is absolutely hauling ass on the Ring. Car looks composed but in some sections you can tell the weight, the way it lands on its bump stops.

Either way looks to be very quick, and balanced. I’m excited…

Now if they only made it in Europe as well, and bring back Euro Delivery. Wishful thinking I know.

I noticed that too. f'ing flying. clearly that car has wider tires than its predecessor.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

Most of the time LCI includes new tails

Most of the time, but… not always. Trust me the tail lights are the thing I want changed the most and preferable pre-LCI and again at the LCI.

Originally Posted by Tag

My biggest gripe with the lights though is they look too small on such a wide car.

100%!

Originally Posted by Poochie

However, somewhere down the line, I expect the G42/87 to have a laser light option but I doubt it will be for the initial run.. More than likely that will be an LCI offering..

Hopefully, but just an example, the G01 X3 LCI for 2022 did not receive a laser light option for any of the variants including the M. The G87 LCI is a considerable amount of time away so no telling what could happen between now and then in regards to lighting technology. A total what if, but what if BMW only produces the G87 for five years, MY 2023 to 2027 and there is no LCI? They have done this before and recently. If there is an LCI it quite possibly could receive a mild hybrid treatment?

[BMWGirlFL]

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by T_U_D

100%!

Hopefully, but just an example, the G01 X3 LCI for 2022 did not receive a laser light option for any of the variants including the M. The G87 LCI is a considerable amount of time away so no telling what could happen between now and then in regards to lighting technology. A total what if, but what if BMW only produces the G87 for five years, MY 2023 to 2027 and there is no LCI? They have done this before and recently. If there is an LCI it quite possibly could receive a mild hybrid treatment?

Good point on the X3 and no laser light option… I was just speculating based on something the admins had stated here in regards to a supposed laser light option eventually being available on the G87 and since there is no current test mules depicting this fact (no telltale blue "scenic" glow), I'm assuming it's going to be a LCI or maybe a CSL exclusive, if that..

As far as the mild hybrid goes, I doubt that's necessary on M cars with the S58 motor.. That engine runs clean enough to satisfy the tree-hugging regulators and has enough headroom for added power just by simply turning up the boost, rendering a mild hybrid an unnecessary expense and weight penalty, on an already chunky vehicle. But what do I know 🤷🏻

[n55f15]

I think the G87 (Like the G80 imo) will look good on it’s own but won’t hold up next to it’s predecessor

[Artemis]

[atl_1M]

Originally Posted by Artemis

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Will be interesting to see what the vents look like in relation to the overall design. One other interesting thing I noticed is how the grill actually sticks out past the bumper. Not sure I've seen this in any other modern BMW design. Gives it a shark nose appearance.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by adc

That latest video, the driver is absolutely hauling ass on the Ring. Car looks composed but in some sections you can tell the weight, the way it lands on its bump stops.

Either way looks to be very quick, and balanced. I’m excited…

Now if they only made it in Europe as well, and bring back Euro Delivery. Wishful thinking I know.

Originally Posted by Poochie

I see what you mean; the way how it bottoms out at the 2:17 point in the video, you can tell it's packing on the pounds but it still handles with grace and looks fast enough to outrun the cops, so I'm sold.. 😛

It's also going to have a louder exhaust and slightly more power for NA bound cars since we don't have the hp and sound robbing particulate filters.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by atl_1M

Will be interesting to see what the vents look like in relation to the overall design. One other interesting thing I noticed is how the grill actually sticks out past the bumper. Not sure I've seen this in any other modern BMW design. Gives it a shark nose appearance.

I'm like 99% percent sure those two grills/vents are intake inlets.. On N55 M2, there was an intake horn, running from the airbox to behind the headlights - which is arguably the coolest section under the engine bay.

The G87 headlight adjacent intake inlets seem to be an expansion of this concept, which is some clever engineering, catering to an audience where constant endurance is necessary

Hopefully, it comes out looking somewhat purposeful and classy, like what they pulled off with the M2 CS bumper inlets..
Which actually deceptively turned out to be brake cooling ducts and not intake openings but aesthetically palatable nonetheless.



https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25430998

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25431964

[Game]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I'm like 99% percent sure those two grills/vents are intake inlets.. On N55 M2, there was an intake horn, running from the airbox to behind the headlights - which is arguably the coolest section under the engine bay.

The G87 headlight adjacent intake inlets seem to be an expansion of this concept, which is some clever engineering, catering to an audience where constant endurance is necessary

Hopefully, it comes out looking somewhat purposeful and classy, like what they pulled off with the M2 CS bumper inlets..
Which actually deceptively turned out to be brake cooling ducts and not intake openings but aesthetic palatable nonetheless.



https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25430998

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25431964

If we can't get a new headlight, that'd be a badass compromise. Something about esthetically pleasing and functional vents…

[Tag]

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[Game]

Originally Posted by Tag

Those wheel arches...

A slight drop and some spacers and this thing will look MEAN coming down the streets.

[n55f15]

[Game]

Originally Posted by n55f15

Hope that rear bumper doesn't look too gaudy.

And once again, more covers for the tails.

[T_U_D]

Originally Posted by Poochie

As far as the mild hybrid goes, I doubt that's necessary on M cars with the S58 motor.. That engine runs clean enough to satisfy the tree-hugging regulators and has enough headroom for added power just by simply turning up the boost, rendering a mild hybrid an unnecessary expense and weight penalty, on an already chunky vehicle. But what do I know ����

The S58 and B58 will be receiving a TU (technical update) in the future. BMW added a 48V mild hybird to the B58 for 2022 so a lot of unknown about the S58s future.

The X5 and X6 M are allegedly going to receive a new engine (S68) with the LCI and it includes mild hybridization. The next Gen M5 is currently testing and it will be a hybrid, not mild. Sadly, the Germans want to hug those tress strongly. Porsche is taking the Boxster and Cayman to EV for the next Gen in 2025. The current Gen is the end of the line for ICE. Rumor also has it that the 992.2 (facelift 992) will see a model(s) with mild hybridization. Full ICE is slowing being killed off.