[Myrder]

[u2b]

[/u2b]

[adobeee]

meh

[See5]

Incredible.

This is the real muscle car era. Within the past 3 years Ford, GM, and Chrysler have put out engines with 650, 662, and 707hp. With factory warranties. And sub-$100K prices. Outrageous.

[Malibu1]

What is the curb weight on one of these?

[Schnell_1]

Originally Posted by Malibu1

What is the curb weight on one of these?

About 4300

[son_of_siggy]

I want.

[Soorena]

Insane! I absolutely love this car. Love the looks, love the power, love the silliness etc... Just wish it was a few hundred kilos lighter.

[Myrder]

The car is bonkers...get some slicks on it... and I'm predicting low 11@129mph

[swanson]

Rumor has it running 10's with the auto.

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by swanson

Rumor has it running 10's with the auto.

I just done see that happening without drag radials. It's too heavy. It would be trapping at warp speed in order to make it into the 10s.

[ragingclue]

That is a lot of power.

[Myrder]

Originally Posted by swanson

Rumor has it running 10's with the auto.

The only reason why I see that being difficult is the ZR1 will do 10.8 in minshaft air. An that is with 540-550rwhp and 530ish rwtq and about 900lbs less (~3300lbs vs ~4300lbs).

I don't see the Hellcat dyno'ing mid 600rhwp. I see 600rwhp.

[wisesoul]

Originally Posted by swanson

Rumor has it running 10's with the auto.

Not on those puny tires it isn't. Lighter SRT Vipers sport 345mm rears, still in the low 11s. Can't hit 10s without stickier tires

[P1]

Originally Posted by See5

Incredible.

This is the real muscle car era. Within the past 3 years Ford, GM, and Chrysler have put out engines with 650, 662, and 707hp. With factory warranties. And sub-$100K prices. Outrageous.

The other Yank brands are doing the same with their diesel engines: everyone trying to output more torque than the other one.

[TSM330i]

It's all about the driver. Hellcat with an auto I'm sure will hit 10s with slicks.
Stock ZR1 (i.e. no slicks): 10.85 @ 129

[See5]

The auto cars will get close to 10's no doubt IMO.

The advantage it will have over other 6-speed cars like the Corvettes, Shelby Mustangs, etc. will be all in the launch. Not only that but every car I've driven that ZF 8-speed in has shifted pretty quickly. No boost drop.

On DR's might even be able to get a little lift from a tire.

[templarklimek]

And BMW switched to the turbo-six... The S65 had every reason to live on in the 4.4L version, already in production. They switched to the six to save uber money by not building bespoke M motors anymore... GRRR......

[HPFREAK]

Originally Posted by adobeee

meh

Exactly

[jsublime]

So this, GT 500 or ZL1? Think I'd go Mopar.

[jkrig]

Originally Posted by jsublime

So this, GT 500 or ZL1? Think I'd go Mopar.

+1 (for now) . still curious about the next GT500, the new stang IS a good looking car...The Challenger has a bit more street presence.....interior is best of the 3 as well....

[KingOfJericho]

The redesigned Challengers look amazing and their appearence is simply menacing. 707hp? Good lord...

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by See5

The auto cars will get close to 10's no doubt IMO.

The advantage it will have over other 6-speed cars like the Corvettes, Shelby Mustangs, etc. will be all in the launch. Not only that but every car I've driven that ZF 8-speed in has shifted pretty quickly. No boost drop.

On DR's might even be able to get a little lift from a tire.

I doubt that the shift speed will have a tangible impact on the car's overall ability in the 1/4. I think it'll largely come down to physics and its difficulty to get all of that mass to launch effectively. The thing is outmatched in terms of mechanical grip unless those 295s are a hybrid compound of Gorilla Glue and Laffy Taffy.

I really hope that I'm wrong. However I'm expecting that in-gear acceleration will be balls-out insane.