[Ben1987]

Has anyone ever tried fitting custom led angel eyes to pre lci lights? I know I can change to lci but fancied something different ! I've seen the custom lights that lite angels do and quiet fancy having a go myself. The problem I'm having is finding halo rings in different sizes.
Any insight would be great

Cheers Ben

[dest]

Do you mean adding after market angel eyes to OEM halogen lights?
I've never seen it done myself.
I know its more expensive but have you considered an OEM xenon conversion?

[Josh1a1h]

What car do you have?

If it is an E90 then i recommend you just upgrade to LCI.

If you have an E92 there are a number of companies that sell angel eye kits for e92s

Umnitza the most popular which sell kits for about $350 or ONEighty sell the full rings for $300.

http://www.umnitza.com/predator-orio...60-p-6141.html

[Ben1987]

I have looked into the oem conversion but I just can't justify the £500-£600 they seem to sell for! My cars a e90 with standard halogen my hope was that I could find a company that sell the rings in different sizes but that seems to be proving difficult. Any ideas on this are greatly appreciated lol

[richk84]

The problem with e90 headlights is that they don't open easily to allow LED rings to be fitted. With an e92 you can use a heatgun to open a set of headlights. With an e90 i think you have to use a dremel or something similar to cut open the headlights as they don't have a premiseal. As a result not many companies tend to offer a retrofit service for e90 headlights.

[AWBimmer]

Originally Posted by Ben1987

Has anyone ever tried fitting custom led angel eyes to pre lci lights? I know I can change to lci but fancied something different ! I've seen the custom lights that lite angels do and quiet fancy having a go myself. The problem I'm having is finding halo rings in different sizes.
Any insight would be great

Cheers Ben

All I will say is Josh1a1h on here (who has messaged a few knocks up) is the mastermind of E92 Angel Eye conversion in the UK. I have it and it's bloody amazing IMO. Few others on here have had it done too and it stands out so much from the norm.

www.liteangels.co.uk


EDIT: Saw OP has an e90..

OP, have a go at carefully opening the housing but they are a right PITA..worth having a go if you're brave enough

[Josh1a1h]

Thanks for the kind words sam!!!

I will also let you know now.

You cannot retrofit angel eyes into E90 Halogen Pre LCI headlights.
The internal design does not allow for it.

Anything can realistically be done, but it will look terrible and horribly bodged.

Another option is to purchase DEPO LED Angel Eye headlights from the states. But ensure they are RHD Ready

[Ben1987]

Thanks Josh1a1h I've seen your work and it's amazingly well done ! Thanks guys for saving me a lot of hard work for nothing!
Josh1a1h have you ever split the lci halogens ?

[Ben1987]

Thanks AWbimmer aswell !

[BoondogUK]

Originally Posted by Ben1987

I have looked into the oem conversion but I just can't justify the £500-£600 they seem to sell for! My cars a e90 with standard halogen my hope was that I could find a company that sell the rings in different sizes but that seems to be proving difficult. Any ideas on this are greatly appreciated lol

I guess at that price your looking at xenons?

I got my LCI halogens with angel eyes that I added LEDs to the rings for £200 + £35 for the LEDs.

They seem to range from 200 to 300 depending on the position of the moon. Keep looking, they are the best value for money light conversion for a pre lci. The depo's IMHO look odd as the angels are so small.

[Ben1987]

Originally Posted by BoondogUK

I guess at that price your looking at xenons?

I got my LCI halogens with angel eyes that I added LEDs to the rings for £200 + £35 for the LEDs.

They seem to range from 200 to 300 depending on the position of the moon. Keep looking, they are the best value for money light conversion for a pre lci. The depo's IMHO look odd as the angels are so small.

I will keep my eye on the bay and see if any come up for a good price how easy we're they to get apart ?

[Maaarkk]

Been contemplating doing something like this myself too.. I think the pre-lci fronts on my car are a bit of a let down. Always jealous when an lci passes me with bright halo's!
Seen Josh1a1h's work on liteangels and that's actually what made me think about having a go myself! Not sure how easy it would be though..

[richk84]

Originally Posted by Maaarkk

Been contemplating doing something like this myself too.. I think the pre-lci fronts on my car are a bit of a let down. Always jealous when an lci passes me with bright halo's!
Seen Josh1a1h's work on liteangels and that's actually what made me think about having a go myself! Not sure how easy it would be though..

Im going to do it myself Mark so will put a thread up next month. Just don't have time at the moment as you need a whole weekend when your not using the car to get your bumper off and open the lights

[BoondogUK]

Originally Posted by Ben1987

I will keep my eye on the bay and see if any come up for a good price how easy we're they to get apart ?

LCI halogens come with angel eyes (rings) as standard. There is no need to take them apart to get the look. You can then just change the halogen bulb to an LED replacement to get the 'white' rings. They are not as bright as the e92 lci rings, but still give you the look at a reasonable price.

[Ben1987]

Originally Posted by Maaarkk

Been contemplating doing something like this myself too.. I think the pre-lci fronts on my car are a bit of a let down. Always jealous when an lci passes me with bright halo's!
Seen Josh1a1h's work on liteangels and that's actually what made me think about having a go myself! Not sure how easy it would be though..

I know exactly what you mean ! As josh1a1 said earlier in the post the internal design is awkward but I was debating using a open bottom halo (like on the earlier e46 retrofits) but on it's side with the open bottom butting up to the smaller ring. Just throwing ideas out there hoping between a few of us we may come up with a reasonably priced option

[Maaarkk]

Originally Posted by richk84

Im going to do it myself Mark so will put a thread up next month. Just don't have time at the moment as you need a whole weekend when your not using the car to get your bumper off and open the lights

Will keep an eye out for your thread, a few of my mates have split their headlights before and one of them had added some LED rings to his e46 but they were a bit naff looking. I would only want to do it if it came out not looking like a 5 min DIY job.

Originally Posted by Ben1987

I know exactly what you mean ! As josh1a1 said earlier in the post the internal design is awkward but I was debating using a open bottom halo (like on the earlier e46 retrofits) but on it's side with the open bottom butting up to the smaller ring. Just throwing ideas out there hoping between a few of us we may come up with a reasonably priced option

I'll wait and see if someone else does a good job and how easy it is before I'd try doing it myself lol.

Originally Posted by BoondogUK

LCI halogens come with angel eyes (rings) as standard. There is no need to take them apart to get the look. You can then just change the halogen bulb to an LED replacement to get the 'white' rings. They are not as bright as the e92 lci rings, but still give you the look at a reasonable price.

I'm not a fan of the LED replacement bulbs. Think I'd done this within the first few days of having my car but they just don't compare to LCI LED rings at all, and the outer ring is always dimmer no matter how good the LED's are which is super annoying

[Thomas_lad]

i didnt read all the comments above so apologies if its been said but opening pre lci e90 headlamps is near impossible to do without permanent damage (in my experience). i luckily got a cracked one from a scrappy for free to practice opening it and it was a nightmare!

[Ben1987]

This is looking more and more like a dead end thanks for all the replies !

[DuckySpud]

It is possible, if I get myself a few hundred spare then I'd love to retrofit projectors and angel eyes like these:




I love the look, but as others have said, they're a pain to open and its very much trial and error, these are the only ones I've ever seen done to a decent quality. The glass has not been replaced in this photo btw.

[Josh1a1h]

Originally Posted by Ben1987

Thanks Josh1a1h I've seen your work and it's amazingly well done ! Thanks guys for saving me a lot of hard work for nothing!
Josh1a1h have you ever split the lci halogens ?

Yes i have.

Ive opened a few.

But it is such a pain in the ass
You end up destroying the light to get it open.

I have a few new techniques up my sleeve after speaking to a few of the big companies in the states.

But it is so time consuming and the money i'd want to charge wouldn't make it worthwhile.

We have retrofitted angels to a set of depo headlights.
But it isn't the cleanest job and doesn't look as OEM as our E92 conversions.
But the customer was just happy to have very bright angels on his E90

[Josh1a1h]

Originally Posted by DuckySpud

It is possible, if I get myself a few hundred spare then I'd love to retrofit projectors and angel eyes like these:




I love the look, but as others have said, they're a pain to open and its very much trial and error, these are the only ones I've ever seen done to a decent quality. The glass has not been replaced in this photo btw.

Projector Retrofits are awesome if done well.

But unless you have a friendly MOT centre... you will fail on the spot.

All Projector Retrofits must have auto levelling control.

So this goes for Depo headlights too.

[AshMashMash]

I recently did a pre-lci to lci full headlight swap, and added Horizon LED angel eye bulbs at the same time. I would recommend doing this personally, worked great! £250 for lights from ebay, few quid for the LEDs, and about an hour to swap over, very easy and straightforward swap. OEM too