Procede Reader Datalog Differences at 93%

stillclaimndp · 12-22-2007, 05:17 PM

This is interesting and important for Procede V2 users to note when reading datalogs:

It is important to open with map that covers a short enough period to induce a graph reading with 1.0 psi accuracy. You can then overlay your longer maps so it gives you more detailed boost readings with 1.0 psi boost integers rather than the zoomed out version which seems to be visually misleading.

I messed around with my tq values today from 90% to 92% to 94% and ended up at 93% still pushing a little high on boost but hey, i'm a risk taker and the car had ZERO audible knock and ping, it ran like a dream.

(Tried to get a newer C6 Z06 to run, we followed each other around town, got on the freeway, couldn't find a gap in traffic and he hopped back off the freeway. Don't worry, I know he can beat me, just curious by how much.)

Anyway, take a look at the differences in graphs below, these are the same two graphs but one reads by 1.0 psi measurements vs. the other reads by 10.0 psi measurements. The 10psi map looks like 13-14psi when boost was raised, the 1psi map shows it's actually 14.5-15.5psi (at the 5,500 rpm's we are supposed be watching for):

O-cha · 12-22-2007, 05:25 PM

Doesn't that little flat line bother anyone else? Theres no way it's sitting there perfectly flat on a resolution in the tenths of a PSI.

OpenFlash · 12-22-2007, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Doesn't that little flat line bother anyone else? Theres no way it's sitting there perfectly flat on a resolution in the tenths of a PSI.

Wanna bet?

Shiv

stillclaimndp · 12-22-2007, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Doesn't that little flat line bother anyone else? Theres no way it's sitting there perfectly flat on a resolution in the tenths of a PSI.

Depends on what you're doing, this next log is just third gear the whole way through, the prior were first second and third, when you get going and heat gets building, procede uses it's dual solenoid control to hold it steady. During this third geat pull, colder condition, potential for boost spike, procede tones down the boost to keep things safe (at least that's my take on it):

O-cha · 12-22-2007, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Wanna bet?

Shiv

Holly crap, you could read that? And here I thought I had somehow become invisible to you, I just assumed you wouldn't ignore a customer who tried 4 different methods to contact you over a period of a few weeks.

e90AW335i · 12-22-2007, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Holly crap, you could read that? And here I thought I had somehow become invisible to you, I just assumed you wouldn't ignore a customer who tried 4 different methods to contact you over a period of a few weeks.

OpenFlash · 12-22-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Holly crap, you could read that? And here I thought I had somehow become invisible to you, I just assumed you wouldn't ignore a customer who tried 4 different methods to contact you over a period of a few weeks.

I stopped trying to you once I realized that you didn't want my help. What you wanted (and still want as evident by your posts in just about every thread) is to be RIGHT. If that's your thing, that's cool. Just don't expect me to spend the time and energy trying to support that that need of yours.

Like in this thread, for instance, you want to believe that boost can't possibly be that well controlled. And there's nothing I can do or say that will convince you otherwise. So I won't. And now you can start another thread calling me a liar again. And then other complaining about how I don't respond to your PMs.

Shiv

kptaylor · 12-22-2007, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Holly crap, you could read that?

What is holly crap? Is is some kind of Christmas poo?

e90AW335i · 12-22-2007, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I stopped trying to you once I realized that you didn't want my help. What you wanted (and still want as evident by your posts in just about every thread) is to be RIGHT. If that's your thing, that's cool. Just don't expect me to spend the time and energy trying to support that that need of yours.

Like in this thread, for instance, you want to believe that boost can't possibly be that well controlled. And there's nothing I can do or say that will convince you otherwise. So I won't. And now you can start another thread calling me a liar again. And then other complaining about how I don't respond to your PMs.

Shiv

Have some popcorn Shiv....

O-cha · 12-22-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kptaylor

What is holly crap? Is is some kind of Christmas poo?

Crap from a cow in India.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I stopped trying to you once I realized that you didn't want my help. What you wanted (and still want as evident by your posts in just about every thread) is to be RIGHT. If that's your thing, that's cool. Just don't expect me to spend the time and energy trying to support that that need of yours.

Like in this thread, for instance, you want to believe that boost can't possibly be that well controlled. And there's nothing I can do or say that will convince you otherwise. So I won't. And now you can start another thread calling me a liar again. And then other complaining about how I don't respond to your PMs.

Shiv

Because I ever called you a liar, and I didn't want your help because I sure loved boosting 20psi and being so down on power that stock cars could walk me. Yea I loved that. Not like I did everything I could to find the problem and did everything you said or anything too.

kptaylor · 12-22-2007, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Crap from a cow in India.

Um, it's spelled "Holy". Holly is a Christmas ornamental plant... RIF.

OpenFlash · 12-22-2007, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kptaylor

What is holly crap? Is is some kind of Christmas poo?

e90AW335i · 12-22-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Nice one Shiv....

O-cha · 12-22-2007, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

I stopped trying to you once I realized that you didn't want my help. What you wanted (and still want as evident by your posts in just about every thread) is to be RIGHT.

Oh and I found this statement to be VERY ironic since after ignoring me for 2 weeks when I PMed you of the possibility of a solenoid being stuck open you immediately chimed in about it. But after it was clear that wasn't the issue and it could once again be the procede, I get ignored again. Hypocrite?

OpenFlash · 12-22-2007, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Crap from a cow in India.

Merry Christmas?

stillclaimndp · 12-22-2007, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Merry Christmas?

Shiv, let's do a dyno day soon...? Maybe when you bring out your cone-filter intake and we could run a few customer cars with it vs. stock air box? Vince and I both want to spin some big barrels, and I'm sure there are a few other locals that would like to.

On a separate note, just for a touch of humor, I somehow lost the black cover that goes over the white ECU box cover, pretty funny, thats pretty big piece of plastic to disapear in an open car port, maybe I pulled one of these:

bmwzimmer · 12-22-2007, 06:32 PM

hmm, how u going to explain that to the dealer?

OpenFlash · 12-22-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

hmm, how u going to explain that to the dealer?

Purchase another one from the parts department?

They cost $5 each I think.

Shiv

e90AW335i · 12-22-2007, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

hmm, how u going to explain that to the dealer?

Someone else on this board did that as well, you can buy a new one.....

stillclaimndp · 12-22-2007, 06:36 PM

yeah im not worried about it AT ALL... it must be somewhere, otherwise ill walk into parts and buy one (cash

). Just one of those flukey occurences.

Anyway, Dyno's?

CanadianTSi · 12-22-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

Doesn't that little flat line bother anyone else? Theres no way it's sitting there perfectly flat on a resolution in the tenths of a PSI.

I can show you datalogs of my Car holding 26.1psi through an entire gear on an Internal wastegate, and its nowhere near as sophisticated as a BMW

CanadianTSi · 12-22-2007, 06:42 PM

Also if you aren't sure what the exact boost number is on a specific part of the graph can you not just click on it and it will tell you?

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stillclaimndp Dancing Machine 50 Rep 1,419 Posts Drives: 335i e90 ZSP Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walnut Creek, Ca iTrader: (0)	Procede Reader Datalog Differences at 93% This is interesting and important for Procede V2 users to note when reading datalogs: It is important to open with map that covers a short enough period to induce a graph reading with 1.0 psi accuracy. You can then overlay your longer maps so it gives you more detailed boost readings with 1.0 psi boost integers rather than the zoomed out version which seems to be visually misleading. I messed around with my tq values today from 90% to 92% to 94% and ended up at 93% still pushing a little high on boost but hey, i'm a risk taker and the car had ZERO audible knock and ping, it ran like a dream. (Tried to get a newer C6 Z06 to run, we followed each other around town, got on the freeway, couldn't find a gap in traffic and he hopped back off the freeway. Don't worry, I know he can beat me, just curious by how much.) Anyway, take a look at the differences in graphs below, these are the same two graphs but one reads by 1.0 psi measurements vs. the other reads by 10.0 psi measurements. The 10psi map looks like 13-14psi when boost was raised, the 1psi map shows it's actually 14.5-15.5psi (at the 5,500 rpm's we are supposed be watching for): Attached Images __________________ 2007 e90 & 1981 Corvette Predecessors: 2007 BMW 335i E92, 2006 M5, 2008 Viper SRT10 Coupe, 2005 Viper Yellow, 2006 Corvette Z51, 2009 Challenger SRT8, 2006 S4, 2001.5 Nogaro Blue S4, 2006 GTI w/ DSG, 06 Evo IX, 04 S4, 04 911x51, 03 Evo VIII, 98 Eclipse GSX, 96 GST, 92 Galant Vr-4, '70 Grand Prix Model J, '70 Nova, '68 Firebird
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stillclaimndp Dancing Machine 50 Rep 1,419 Posts Drives: 335i e90 ZSP Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walnut Creek, Ca iTrader: (0)	yeah im not worried about it AT ALL... it must be somewhere, otherwise ill walk into parts and buy one (cash ). Just one of those flukey occurences. Anyway, Dyno's? __________________ 2007 e90 & 1981 Corvette Predecessors: 2007 BMW 335i E92, 2006 M5, 2008 Viper SRT10 Coupe, 2005 Viper Yellow, 2006 Corvette Z51, 2009 Challenger SRT8, 2006 S4, 2001.5 Nogaro Blue S4, 2006 GTI w/ DSG, 06 Evo IX, 04 S4, 04 911x51, 03 Evo VIII, 98 Eclipse GSX, 96 GST, 92 Galant Vr-4, '70 Grand Prix Model J, '70 Nova, '68 Firebird
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CanadianTSi Captain 207 Rep 607 Posts Drives: 2014 535 xDrive Diesel Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Alberta iTrader: (0)	Also if you aren't sure what the exact boost number is on a specific part of the graph can you not just click on it and it will tell you?
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