GOT CEL and limp mode every time i get on boost.

VQMotoring · 12-24-2007, 11:57 AM

Hey Guys,

This just started happening yesterday. Havent done anything to the user TQ setting nothing.. All i have on my car is our exhaust and The V2.02. I check all the cables to see if anything came loose. When you start the car, it takes forever to turn over. When you accelerate and begin to go on boost the car starts to shake in a way and goes on limp mode/CEL and sounds like one of the cylinders shuts down.. I quickly turn the car off.. Once i turn it back on its back to normal (until i try to go back into boost or get close to 3k RPS. Same thing happens again. I have had V2.02 ever since it came out and no problems.
I dont really drive my car hard at all... Not sure what went wrong by itself. Please let me know if someone can relate to this or any ideas

thanks in advance and happy holidays to everyone

RiXst3r · 12-24-2007, 11:58 AM

sounds like high pressure fuel pump failure, but I could be wrong.
Mine failed almost exactly in the fashion you have described... although i was stock

first step is to return the car to stock or bypass plugs, and see if you an re-produce it

cn555ic · 12-24-2007, 11:59 AM

did u open up the ecu to check if your wiring is loose!! I would first check that to see if thats the problem

cn555ic · 12-24-2007, 12:00 PM

oh i see you already checked the wires, then its does sound like the fuel pump

stressdoc · 12-24-2007, 12:02 PM

Sure you thought of this, but I would disconnect and see if the engine does this without Procede. Could be any of several problems, DI, stuck diverter, even the dreaded HPFP.

VQMotoring · 12-24-2007, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

sounds like high pressure fuel pump failure, but I could be wrong.
Mine failed almost exactly in the fashion you have described... although i was stock

first step is to return the car to stock or bypass plugs, and see if you an re-produce it

nice. I whish i had the Bypass plugs to try but i never got them with my proceed.

RiXst3r · 12-24-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VQMotoring

nice. I whish i had the Bypass plugs to try but i never got them with my proceed.

You have to completely unistall the procede then... thats really the only next logical step... considering that even if you find the problem, you will most likely be going to the dealer.

VQMotoring · 12-24-2007, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiXst3r

sounds like high pressure fuel pump failure, but I could be wrong.
Mine failed almost exactly in the fashion you have described... although i was stock

first step is to return the car to stock or bypass plugs, and see if you an re-produce it

If it was the fuel pump, would it still have a delay in ignition like i do every time? it is very similar as if i downloaded a corrupted file into my proceed, but i did not download anything

RiXst3r · 12-24-2007, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by VQMotoring

If it was the fuel pump, would it still have a delay in ignition like i do every time? it is very similar as if i downloaded a corrupted file into my proceed, but i did not download anything

the first sign of failing high pressure pump is extended cranking before ignition according to the TSB from bmw

Mine did that...

The only other thing I can think of is that possibly your o2 sensors got crossed during the exhaust install, but that wouldnt neccesarily cause long cranks... in the past, on this car, long cranks is either a wiring problem from procede or hpfp failure from what I have seen

Cookiemonster · 12-24-2007, 12:13 PM

exact same thing happened to me when my HPFP took a crap!

VQMotoring · 12-24-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cookiemonster

exact same thing happened to me when my HPFP took a crap!

what did you do to get it fixed? took to the dealer?

VQMotoring · 12-24-2007, 01:58 PM

does everyone think its the fuel pump? im begining to think thats probably what it is.

baltik · 12-24-2007, 03:57 PM

you are displaying every classic symptom of a failing fuel pump

1clean335i · 12-24-2007, 04:07 PM

gonna have to agree that its most likely the high pressure fuel pump.

jon@themshop · 12-24-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1clean335i

gonna have to agree that its most likely the high pressure fuel pump.

I'd listen to this guy since he's probably replaced a few of them.

E90ice · 12-24-2007, 04:21 PM

fuel pump

jfewins · 12-24-2007, 04:30 PM

as soon as I hooked up my V2, it started doing exactly this. Each and every time. I opened the hood, found that a wire had come loose. Reconnected, and everything worked as it should.

kenni243 · 12-24-2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by baltik

you are displaying every classic symptom of a failing fuel pump

+1 Mine started with long crank, then shake during acceleration..

Remove the Procede to check if symptom still exist. If it the FP then your the dealer will repair it within a day

DrewKo · 12-24-2007, 05:15 PM

Scalbert's car did this, or something like it, and while we both thought it was the fuel pump, it turned out to be something else that was fixable. However, i can't remember what he said it turned out to be, so you may want to PM him.

Beer Goggles · 12-24-2007, 11:38 PM

Hey are you following me around? What happened to the Zs

chris b. · 12-25-2007, 10:31 AM

definitely sounds like the fuel pump. for some reason ive been replacing these alot lately. if you have a code reader see if you have fuel pressure on release of injection faults or misfires,dead giveaway,but as per the bmw sib they will try and update your car first before installing the pump. most likely it wont help and youll get a new hpfp. gl.

VQMotoring · 12-25-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Beer Goggles

Hey are you following me around? What happened to the Zs

LOL.. the Z is still around.

12-24-2007, 11:57 AM	#1
VQMotoring Lieutenant 31 Rep 435 Posts Drives: 335, F430, CLS63 350ZRTT, GTR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Weston, Florida iTrader: (4)	GOT CEL and limp mode every time i get on boost. Hey Guys, This just started happening yesterday. Havent done anything to the user TQ setting nothing.. All i have on my car is our exhaust and The V2.02. I check all the cables to see if anything came loose. When you start the car, it takes forever to turn over. When you accelerate and begin to go on boost the car starts to shake in a way and goes on limp mode/CEL and sounds like one of the cylinders shuts down.. I quickly turn the car off.. Once i turn it back on its back to normal (until i try to go back into boost or get close to 3k RPS. Same thing happens again. I have had V2.02 ever since it came out and no problems. I dont really drive my car hard at all... Not sure what went wrong by itself. Please let me know if someone can relate to this or any ideas thanks in advance and happy holidays to everyone
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RiXst3r 288 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	sounds like high pressure fuel pump failure, but I could be wrong. Mine failed almost exactly in the fashion you have described... although i was stock first step is to return the car to stock or bypass plugs, and see if you an re-produce it
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cn555ic 462 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	did u open up the ecu to check if your wiring is loose!! I would first check that to see if thats the problem
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cn555ic 462 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	oh i see you already checked the wires, then its does sound like the fuel pump
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stressdoc Moderator 659 Rep 10,865 Posts Drives: BMW i8; Toy 4runner TRD pro Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Waco TX iTrader: (0)	Sure you thought of this, but I would disconnect and see if the engine does this without Procede. Could be any of several problems, DI, stuck diverter, even the dreaded HPFP. __________________ My recent ED photos: http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1026808 my not-so-recent ED: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31829 Please join BMWCCA http://bmwcca.org/index.php?pageid=c...&ref_by=300279
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Cookiemonster Captain 17 Rep 791 Posts Drives: 2010 335XI e92 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jupiter iTrader: (2)	exact same thing happened to me when my HPFP took a crap! __________________ 2007 335I sedan (retired) 2010 335xi coupe
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VQMotoring Lieutenant 31 Rep 435 Posts Drives: 335, F430, CLS63 350ZRTT, GTR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Weston, Florida iTrader: (4)	does everyone think its the fuel pump? im begining to think thats probably what it is.
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baltik Lieutenant 25 Rep 434 Posts Drives: porsche 944 turbo Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 94920 iTrader: (0)	you are displaying every classic symptom of a failing fuel pump
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1clean335i Perf BMW mag issue 147, 159 432 Rep 6,799 Posts Drives: Project Estoril Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Miami, FL iTrader: (31) Garage List 2013 335i M-sport [0.00] 2011 X5 xdrive35i M ... [0.00] 2009 335i M-sport [0.00] 07' 335i Sedan [0.00]	gonna have to agree that its most likely the high pressure fuel pump. __________________ '13 Estoril Blue 335i M-sport *Don't PM me!* Message me here- http://www.facebook.com/ProjectEstoril
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E90ice Banned 220 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe Join Date: May 2006 Location: WA iTrader: (0)	fuel pump __________________
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jfewins Private 3 Rep 62 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX iTrader: (1)	as soon as I hooked up my V2, it started doing exactly this. Each and every time. I opened the hood, found that a wire had come loose. Reconnected, and everything worked as it should.
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DrewKo Lieutenant Colonel 46 Rep 1,568 Posts Drives: 335i Montego Blue Saddle Brown Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (4) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00]	Scalbert's car did this, or something like it, and while we both thought it was the fuel pump, it turned out to be something else that was fixable. However, i can't remember what he said it turned out to be, so you may want to PM him.
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Beer Goggles First Lieutenant 6 Rep 310 Posts Drives: 2007 335i E92, 6MT, Sport Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Riverside, CA iTrader: (0)	Hey are you following me around? What happened to the Zs
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chris b. Brigadier General 120 Rep 3,345 Posts Drives: zmp e90 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: White Plains NY iTrader: (1) Garage List 2010 335i [0.00]	definitely sounds like the fuel pump. for some reason ive been replacing these alot lately. if you have a code reader see if you have fuel pressure on release of injection faults or misfires,dead giveaway,but as per the bmw sib they will try and update your car first before installing the pump. most likely it wont help and youll get a new hpfp. gl. __________________ Brentuning Cobb AP pro tune -IG: @beemeraddict 2010 335i zmp fbo, 465/513 E60 mix
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