BMW to appear on watchdog again 30/10/14

Russ.C · 10-23-2014, 04:07 PM

So it looks as if the problem with BMW's being stolen so easily is going to be back on Watchdog next week again along with Audi and Range Rover.

Just a heads up, might be quite interesting.

AWSAWS · 10-23-2014, 04:45 PM

Interesting to know the flaw. Cloned keys?

Russbmw · 10-23-2014, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AWSAWS

Interesting to know the flaw. Cloned keys?

I would imagine so, yes!

Precision Engineered · 10-23-2014, 05:51 PM

Really? Ffs, only just got mine!!

josh2a2h · 10-23-2014, 06:39 PM

I couldn't sleep well at night knowing this!
Even the misses was worried knowing i would go crazy if anything happened.
I went for a full viper setup and its pretty awesome... Only issue right now is i think its pulling a lot of power from the battery...? But I am trying to figure it out.

Pacman83 · 10-23-2014, 06:43 PM

Worth checking with your local main dealer. I had my Air con re-gassed in September and BMW Carlisle said they did a free 'security update' on my key. Something along the lines of what's been mentioned here, at the time I just said 'yeah, cheers' but I guess I'm glad they've done it.

josh2a2h · 10-23-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacman83

Worth checking with your local main dealer. I had my Air con re-gassed in September and BMW Carlisle said they did a free 'security update' on my key. Something along the lines of what's been mentioned here, at the time I just said 'yeah, cheers' but I guess I'm glad they've done it.

Unfortunately that security update will do very little preventing a thief from stealing your car

Pacman83 · 10-23-2014, 07:30 PM

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Unfortunately that security update will do very little preventing a thief from stealing your car

A determined or professional thief will steal ANY car. I guess you didn't notice the sarcastic smile ....

josh2a2h · 10-24-2014, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pacman83

A determined or professional thief will steal ANY car. I guess you didn't notice the sarcastic smile ....

Lol whoops. Missed the smiley hah

xenon · 10-24-2014, 04:03 AM

The programming of keys through the OBD has (supposedly) been fixed on F series cars.

dy63 · 10-24-2014, 04:31 AM

i went into dealer few weeks ago. they said if your car is not built in between march 07 - late 2009 or something they cant steal it. but i am sure ive seen others getting stolen

I got stopped by police last week for speeding...he called for back up immediately, when he pulled me over he said i thought you was going to give us a run for our money cause all of these are getting stolen lately and thought i had stolen one!

mob17 · 10-24-2014, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by josh2a2h

Lol whoops. Missed the smiley hah

Hey newbie

josh2a2h · 10-24-2014, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by xenon

The programming of keys through the OBD has (supposedly) been fixed on F series cars.

Yep... maybe... But for how long

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Originally Posted by mob17

Hey newbie

Haven't popped my 'New Thread' cherry just yet.

Kerr · 10-24-2014, 06:31 AM

I've never understood how other car companies have managed to stay out of the firing line for car thefts, while BMW always get it in the neck.

On other forums numerous of Audis have been stolen. There is a few videos similar to the the very high profile 1M that was broadcast all over the internet.

However so far Audi have kept their name off the TV and as soon as you mention about BMW getting so much bad press for less, even the Audi owners shut up shop and go quiet.

Audi seem to have worse problems than BMW but they've somehow been saved the same exposure for it.

My car has had the security update from the first time around and I'm not worried in the slightest about my car getting stolen. There was blind panic on here before and in all that time my insurance has been going down and down.

My insurance dropped by a fair percentage again this year. I think it was only about £170-180.

It sounds as if my insurance company aren't very worried either.

z19930612 · 10-24-2014, 06:40 AM

Just take off the battery lead and shut the boot(if it's a prelci with a key hole on it) if you worry too much. Or just take off a wheel and hide the bolts

magic77 · 10-24-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by omge92

Security update means f... all, you still can't connect to obd within the ignition on and program new key. And you don't have to be genius to do that, simple eBay tools will slow to do that . I've relocated my obd port so it can be accessed that easy.

Best solution for it move to to a location hard to get to. Cant believe in F30 its still in same easy to reach places. Even Merc mound there's right under the drivers dash so only way to reach it is with open door and then its still a faf but at least more secure

Annoying. Will certainly be moving mine in the F30

acerboo · 10-24-2014, 12:33 PM

bet there'll be thousands of thieving toerags watching that!

Billyray911 · 10-24-2014, 01:29 PM

The F3* are as vulnerable as the E9* series.
A mixture of traditional disclok,moving your OBD and something like a Blackjax or decent aftermarket alarm is a good call.
Obd locks are quite good-basically a steel case that locks over your obd.
Nothing is safe at the moment-it's just the BMW problem is the most publicised...

Dan- · 10-24-2014, 01:37 PM

wire a switch in like mine has which isolates the OBD port, good way to distract them while i snap there necks or something

makkan00 · 10-24-2014, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan-

wire a switch in like mine has which isolates the OBD port, good way to distract them while i snap there necks or something

You seems to be very wise person....uploading photo on the net with bbc watchdog title / thread and BMW cars being stolen.

Dan- · 10-24-2014, 03:39 PM

there are hundreds/ thousands of bmw around my area let alone the county, my location is not my home area miles away, if someone wants to steal a car there going to steal it no amount of security will stop them, i wish the w@nkers the best of luck using this thread and locating my car to find the added switch and drive off in it

grzes · 10-24-2014, 03:57 PM

we can go out and get the best alarm currently available or install as many kill switches as we wish. If they want to steal our cars they will, they don't care if they get in or if they can start it up. They plan things well, they know which cable to cut to disable things. A good tow truck driver takes 30 seconds to hook up the vehicle and he do not care if he has the key or not

They chop the cars for parts only so it is hard to trace them. The only way to make sure you can really recover if your car gets stolen is to have tracking device installed on its own battery back up and hidden well, and even that who knows if it will work as I am sure they have some scanners already for that

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Pacman83 Lieutenant 25 Rep 405 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Cumbria iTrader: (0)	Worth checking with your local main dealer. I had my Air con re-gassed in September and BMW Carlisle said they did a free 'security update' on my key. Something along the lines of what's been mentioned here, at the time I just said 'yeah, cheers' but I guess I'm glad they've done it. Last edited by Pacman83; 10-23-2014 at 06:44 PM.. Reason: spelling
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Kerr Brigadier General 114 Rep 4,021 Posts Drives: BMW M235I Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Aberdeen iTrader: (0)	I've never understood how other car companies have managed to stay out of the firing line for car thefts, while BMW always get it in the neck. On other forums numerous of Audis have been stolen. There is a few videos similar to the the very high profile 1M that was broadcast all over the internet. However so far Audi have kept their name off the TV and as soon as you mention about BMW getting so much bad press for less, even the Audi owners shut up shop and go quiet. Audi seem to have worse problems than BMW but they've somehow been saved the same exposure for it. My car has had the security update from the first time around and I'm not worried in the slightest about my car getting stolen. There was blind panic on here before and in all that time my insurance has been going down and down. My insurance dropped by a fair percentage again this year. I think it was only about £170-180. It sounds as if my insurance company aren't very worried either.
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Dan- Lieutenant 27 Rep 511 Posts Drives: E92 335D, R6 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: bedfordshire iTrader: (0)	there are hundreds/ thousands of bmw around my area let alone the county, my location is not my home area miles away, if someone wants to steal a car there going to steal it no amount of security will stop them, i wish the w@nkers the best of luck using this thread and locating my car to find the added switch and drive off in it __________________ My Previous Cars 206 1.4, Sport Ka, 206 Gti, focus 1.8, Vectra 1.9 CDTi, Corsa 1.8 Sri, 206 Gti 180, Impreza Blobeye Sti Widetrack, Clio 172 Cup Track Car, E92 335D, Impreza Hatch STI, Evo IX FQ360MR, E92 M3 Competition
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