anyone still running stock chargepipe after mods?

335pm · 11-18-2014, 03:09 PM

Running jb4 on e85. Car pulls soo much harder and after reading through the forums it sounds likethe stock chargepipes are so easy to blow. Wondering if it is a have to do mod? Or have people been fine with stock?

HeikkiV · 11-18-2014, 03:18 PM

From what i've read, it's a gamble. Sometimes they blow, sometimes they don't. I've had people tell me its inevitable when running e85 and FBO.

I'm still using the stock CP with FBO mods and e85 and i'm happy to report it hasn't gone yet. I boost 17psi consistently and even after 10k miles the stock charge pipe is holding.

ATTN · 11-18-2014, 03:54 PM

Friend had only a JB4 N55, charge pipe blew within weeks. I'd recommend changing it becuase they're relatively affordable and install is pass easy.

fo55il · 11-18-2014, 04:46 PM

elaborate on what you mean by 'blew'

7smurfs · 11-18-2014, 04:51 PM

I prefer the philosophy of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Unless of course a cp/bov provides power increase which I believe is minimal...

ATTN · 11-18-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fo55il

elaborate on what you mean by 'blew'

Cracked his CP in two pieces.

DR-JEKL · 11-18-2014, 05:07 PM

Exactly what ATTN said, they're cheap so just do it.

If I recall correctly, Peter @ advan had a car with overboosting issues because of a cracked charge pipe also?

DR-JEKL · 11-18-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 7smurfs

I prefer the philosophy of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Unless of course a cp/bov provides power increase which I believe is minimal...

I put the CP up there with adding new plugs and coils when installing a tune

If you have a cracked CP, you're going to have a leak = less powah! Also it's known for the CP to crack at stock boost levels, when running 18-20 psi no doubt puts more stress on the CP!

ATTN · 11-18-2014, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DR-JEKL

I put the CP up there with adding new plugs and coils when installing a tune

If you have a cracked CP, you're going to have a leak = less powah! Also it's known for the CP to crack at stock boost levels, when running 18-20 psi no doubt puts more stress on the CP!

Plus if anyone has actually seen them, its plastic

CashedUpBogan · 11-18-2014, 06:21 PM

Why do people skip such a cheap modification that can possibly rob you of power at some point? SMH kids these days.

How embarrassing if you were racing and a cheap part like that blew up. "I would have beaten that car if my CP didn't blow!"

Excuses are for losers. Try to avoid being a loser.

Testercles · 11-18-2014, 07:05 PM

I was planning to bitch out and do all the supporting mods first but after the dyno day I'm planning JB4 first, probably just map 1 until I get all supporting mods in place. No need to be too overly cautious. Map 1 wouldn't be too strenuous I don't imagine in order to require everything else changing.

ATTN · 11-18-2014, 07:54 PM

BTW op what mixture are you doing? 30/70?

lemonpark · 11-18-2014, 08:11 PM

still stock CP + DV's here, getting ER CP and Tial BOV soon

Haven't noticed any boost leaks with my stock one but just in case haha

fo55il · 11-18-2014, 08:20 PM

sorry cant afford cp, spent money on rbs

ATTN · 11-18-2014, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by fo55il

sorry cant afford cp, spent money on rbs

$5,000 on RB's

$300 CP and you can't afford

fo55il · 11-18-2014, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ATTN

$5,000 on RB's

$300 CP and you can't afford

sarcasm ... lel

waterbottle1 · 11-19-2014, 01:38 AM

i run e85 but no upgraded CP, for a long time, dunno how long to be exact.
had no issues. (yet)

Socket · 11-19-2014, 03:58 AM

Stock CP is plastic and plastic in ur turbos if it blows is probably not good

That said I understand it is the DVs that tend to fail and leak before the CP gives it up.... (just what I read)

_ink · 11-19-2014, 04:24 AM

Why risk it if you're modifying?

This part should be BAU for anyone running a tune.

335pm · 11-19-2014, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ATTN

BTW op what mixture are you doing? 30/70?

Im not sure on mixture. I dont know how to calculate it. All i do is put 10 litres e85 into a full tank of 98 octane.

fo55il · 11-19-2014, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 335pm

Im not sure on mixture. I dont know how to calculate it. All i do is put 10 litres e85 into a full tank of 98 octane.

60 litre tank, 20 eth / 40 98 - v power etc

Ita 33.3% but it works well

You are putting too little

335pm · 11-19-2014, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fo55il

60 litre tank, 20 eth / 40 98 - v power etc

Ita 33.3% but it works well

You are putting too little

Ohh okay. Thanx. Ill try that next tank.

11-18-2014, 03:09 PM	#1
335pm Enlisted Member 11 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: melbourne iTrader: (0)	anyone still running stock chargepipe after mods? Running jb4 on e85. Car pulls soo much harder and after reading through the forums it sounds likethe stock chargepipes are so easy to blow. Wondering if it is a have to do mod? Or have people been fine with stock?
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HeikkiV Private 23 Rep 56 Posts Drives: YMB F80 DCT Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Newport Beach, CA iTrader: (2)	From what i've read, it's a gamble. Sometimes they blow, sometimes they don't. I've had people tell me its inevitable when running e85 and FBO. I'm still using the stock CP with FBO mods and e85 and i'm happy to report it hasn't gone yet. I boost 17psi consistently and even after 10k miles the stock charge pipe is holding. __________________ Past-S63tu F10, N55 F30, N54 e90, N55 e82, S54 E46 (x2), N54 e61 Current- Yas Marina Blue F80 M3
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ATTN Major 96 Rep 1,030 Posts Drives: 335 E92 DCT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i [10.00]	Friend had only a JB4 N55, charge pipe blew within weeks. I'd recommend changing it becuase they're relatively affordable and install is pass easy.
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11-18-2014, 04:46 PM	#4
fo55il Banned 57 Rep 912 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Melbourne Australia iTrader: (0)	elaborate on what you mean by 'blew'
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7smurfs Captain 141 Rep 902 Posts Drives: M3 CS Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	I prefer the philosophy of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it'. Unless of course a cp/bov provides power increase which I believe is minimal...
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DR-JEKL Major General 918 Rep 6,286 Posts Drives: Space Grey E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Newcastle Ozstraylia iTrader: (3)	Exactly what ATTN said, they're cheap so just do it. If I recall correctly, Peter @ advan had a car with overboosting issues because of a cracked charge pipe also?
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CashedUpBogan Lieutenant Colonel 284 Rep 1,808 Posts Drives: State Transit Bus Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Why do people skip such a cheap modification that can possibly rob you of power at some point? SMH kids these days. How embarrassing if you were racing and a cheap part like that blew up. "I would have beaten that car if my CP didn't blow!" Excuses are for losers. Try to avoid being a loser.
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11-18-2014, 07:05 PM	#11
Testercles First Lieutenant 11 Rep 347 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 335iA Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Adelaide iTrader: (0)	I was planning to bitch out and do all the supporting mods first but after the dyno day I'm planning JB4 first, probably just map 1 until I get all supporting mods in place. No need to be too overly cautious. Map 1 wouldn't be too strenuous I don't imagine in order to require everything else changing. __________________ Current: 2008 E90 335iA Sparkling Graphite Metallic Past: 2009 E90 LCI 323iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 2005 E46 325iA Black Sapphire Metallic, 1992 E34 535iA Glacier Blue BMW Driver's Club of South Australia member
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11-18-2014, 07:54 PM	#12
ATTN Major 96 Rep 1,030 Posts Drives: 335 E92 DCT Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i [10.00]	BTW op what mixture are you doing? 30/70? __________________ Certified Australian
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11-18-2014, 08:11 PM	#13
lemonpark Captain 61 Rep 610 Posts Drives: '08 335i E92 Join Date: May 2014 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	still stock CP + DV's here, getting ER CP and Tial BOV soon Haven't noticed any boost leaks with my stock one but just in case haha __________________ JB4 G5 ISO \| BMS Backend Flash \| Alpina B3 TCU Flash \| AR Design Catless DP \| BMS DCI \| ER CP \| Turbosmart Race Port BOV \| Muffler Delete \| H&R Sport Springs \| BMS Cowl \| BMW Performance Alcantara Wheel \| M3 DCT Paddles \| Muse Concept and Design Interior \| 19" GTC-CX \| M3 Lip Spoiler \| Zieg CF Rear Diffuser \| Flow Designs Front Lip \| Black Grill \| RGB LED Angel Eyes \| 8000K HID \|
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fo55il Banned 57 Rep 912 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Melbourne Australia iTrader: (0)	sorry cant afford cp, spent money on rbs
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11-19-2014, 01:38 AM	#17
waterbottle1 Major 157 Rep 1,116 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth AUSTRALIA iTrader: (3)	i run e85 but no upgraded CP, for a long time, dunno how long to be exact. had no issues. (yet)
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11-19-2014, 03:58 AM	#18
Socket Lieutenant General 4775 Rep 11,971 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Australia iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW E92 [0.00]	Stock CP is plastic and plastic in ur turbos if it blows is probably not good That said I understand it is the DVs that tend to fail and leak before the CP gives it up.... (just what I read)
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11-19-2014, 04:24 AM	#19
_ink Jedi samurai ninja turtle 644 Rep 3,021 Posts Drives: X3 M40i 2018 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 X3 M40i [0.00]	Why risk it if you're modifying? This part should be BAU for anyone running a tune.
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