RB turbos on e60 dyno Results- SMS Tune

Boris@SMS · 12-15-2014, 12:12 PM

This car was custom tuned in house on our mustang dyno using only the stock ecu.

Acknowledgements:
I need to shout out to Ken@Wedge Performance for pointing me in the right direction with the boost control pid's.
I also need to shout out to my boy Dave@Savage Motorsports for the 2 hour brainstorming session on Saturday while on the dyno.

Mod List:
RB turbos
ER intercooler
LPFP upgrade
downpipes and exhaust
ER charge pipe
Tial BOV

Stuff it doesn't have:
Meth
Piggyback
COBB

The good stuff:
Dyno sheet shows this car vs. Stock dyno

volcom8190 · 12-15-2014, 01:02 PM

what are you guys using to datalog without the cobb/jb4?

Boris@SMS · 12-15-2014, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by volcom8190

what are you guys using to datalog without the cobb/jb4?

I was logging with the dyno.

Zombie1 · 12-15-2014, 01:45 PM

but what about when your on the road? laptop?

volcom8190 · 12-15-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris@SMS

I was logging with the dyno.

I meant ignition timing, actual afrs (not tailpipe), basically everything that the ECU is seeing. Unless you are plugging in with an OBD cable or something your not seeing all of the equation.

Boris@SMS · 12-15-2014, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volcom8190

I meant ignition timing, actual afrs (not tailpipe), basically everything that the ECU is seeing. Unless you are plugging in with an OBD cable or something your not seeing all of the equation.

Yes our dyno has obdII logging.

Being as it's catless and straight pipes we are good with the tail pipe sniffer.

I certainly didn't tune it using my psychic powers

vasillalov · 12-15-2014, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boris@SMS

I was logging with the dyno.

Oh that's fun.

Good luck

Raptor04 · 12-15-2014, 04:19 PM

Any cliff notes for boost control via pid tuning? What software did you use to flash the ecu?

Boris@SMS · 12-15-2014, 10:17 PM

I'm liking all the feedback, thanks guys!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor001

Any cliff notes for boost control via pid tuning? What software did you use to flash the ecu?

We have 3 different tools we use to flash this ecu. One of them writes in 2 min. We also have a hand held device for file switching and remote tuning.

Pid tuning is not quick or easy. In fact it's very revision intensive. That's when that 2 min flash time comes in handy.

332ijunkie · 12-16-2014, 06:50 AM

What boost level? Looks stellar

Boris@SMS · 12-16-2014, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Oh that's fun.

Good luck

It's already done

Quote:

Originally Posted by 332ijunkie

What boost level? Looks stellar

Thanks!
22-23psi taper 18ish

332ijunkie · 12-16-2014, 09:38 AM

N20 map sensor or stock? You able to scale it (if N20) properly in the ECU?

Boris@SMS · 12-16-2014, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 332ijunkie

N20 map sensor or stock? You able to scale it (if N20) properly in the ECU?

Stock.

pobudz · 12-16-2014, 10:45 AM

Is it just me or does that power curve look awful? :/

FRMTL2_335i · 12-17-2014, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pobudz

Is it just me or does that power curve look awful? :/

it is....

switch to cobb and get wedge in the picture

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