[Greg330]

You race your mate in his E90 M3 and fail to mention that you picked up a JB4 recently...

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First time he was in the wrong gear and I was right on him and the look on his face was priceless as I moved to go past. Even when he was properly on it from the slip road he couldn't really shake me!

We stopped for fuel and I could tell it was really getting to him as he's only had it a month and it's quicker than his VXR8 which was just slightly faster than the 35.

I came clean and I could see his relief but it was very impressive.

Thank the Lord for JB4!!

[makkan00]

JB4 is indeed a brilliant kit!

If you guys compete on a track, then it will be a different game. But who does it?
90% of the time you will drive on normal UK roads and 335i is already bloody fast.

[Greg330]

Originally Posted by makkan00

JB4 is indeed a brilliant kit!

If you guys compete on a track, then it will be a different game. But who does it?
90% of the time you will drive on normal UK roads and 335i is already bloody fast.

Oh yeah he'd kill me but for the quick straight line blast it's great fun!

It was more the look on his face when he didn't leave me for dust which made my day....

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by Greg330

Oh yeah he'd kill me but for the quick straight line blast it's great fun!

It was more the look on his face when he didn't leave me for dust which made my day....

its the go not the show sometimes that puts a smile on your face I guess, I've taken M3 owners out in mine ad theyu are amazed re the pickup and its so damn easy to get 90% of the performance in my eyes for a fraction of the price and IMO the performance is more accessible too

[JP.Williams]

i had a go against a ferrari california not to long ago. was level with him until i hit the limiter

the look on the guys face was pretty funny as i eventually went past with a smile on my face

[gaza01]

I had a little tango with a white m3 today. I was behind him and he was trying to shale me off...no chance!! I stuck on his bumper...this is i had plenty left!

[Ess]

I'd love to see how a 335i JB4 would do against my remapped 335d. I expect you would lead, but I'd like to find out by how much.

My car was quicker than Achu's 335i JB4 at Santa Pod, but he had the added weight of his impressive sound system, and also the folding hard top, so there were more factors at play than just the engine.

But Coupe I JB4 vs. Coupe D remapped, I've yet to see a test. If anyone has done it, I'd be interested to know about the outcome

[Greg330]

I love it guys!

Ess it would be interesting, I've not seen it either and was thinking how they would compare after I saw Sam's dyno figures.

I think we need an E90 performance day!!

[Ess]

Originally Posted by Greg330

I love it guys!

Ess it would be interesting, I've not seen it either and was thinking how they would compare after I saw Sam's dyno figures.

I think we need an E90 performance day!!

I'm in

[gaza01]

Originally Posted by Ess

I'm in

Oh yes!!! Sounds like a plan!!!

[Ajs_435d]

Originally Posted by Ess

I'd love to see how a 335i JB4 would do against my remapped 335d. I expect you would lead, but I'd like to find out by how much.

My car was quicker than Achu's 335i JB4 at Santa Pod, but he had the added weight of his impressive sound system, and also the folding hard top, so there were more factors at play than just the engine.

But Coupe I JB4 vs. Coupe D remapped, I've yet to see a test. If anyone has done it, I'd be interested to know about the outcome

Yup same, me and my mate have e92 coupes my mates 335i is stage 1 remapped and my stage 2 335d is quicker, there was a guy on here who is a 335i owner and refused to admit/acknowledge a 335d can be quicker, thanks for proving you can be quicker.

To fair his is around 350 bhp mine 372 bhp but sheds leads more torque .

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by Ess

I'd love to see how a 335i JB4 would do against my remapped 335d. I expect you would lead, but I'd like to find out by how much.

My car was quicker than Achu's 335i JB4 at Santa Pod, but he had the added weight of his impressive sound system, and also the folding hard top, so there were more factors at play than just the engine.

But Coupe I JB4 vs. Coupe D remapped, I've yet to see a test. If anyone has done it, I'd be interested to know about the outcome

i think on sheer accessible power put a decent remapped 335i against a decently remapped 335d the d will make mincemeat out of the i. The sheer torque and the punch thsta available makes thst for me abundantly clear.

[Bmw10]

Well in stock form they are incredibly close

[Kerr]

Originally Posted by Ess

I'd love to see how a 335i JB4 would do against my remapped 335d. I expect you would lead, but I'd like to find out by how much.

My car was quicker than Achu's 335i JB4 at Santa Pod, but he had the added weight of his impressive sound system, and also the folding hard top, so there were more factors at play than just the engine.

But Coupe I JB4 vs. Coupe D remapped, I've yet to see a test. If anyone has done it, I'd be interested to know about the outcome

The 335i would/should win by a margin.

Most of the 335ds struggle to get low 13s at 104-106mph.

There is plenty of remapped/JB4 335i well into the 12s and over 110 terminals.

Achu's car performed really badly, but the E93 is much heavier to begin with before he added all the rest of the weight.

[Kerr]

Standard the 335d is 0-60mph in 6.1 secs and 0-100mph in 13.7secs.

The 335i is 0-60mph in 5.4secs for manual and 0-100mph in 12.4secs.

The more you tune the 335i, the bigger the gap gets.

[old grey steve]

Originally Posted by Kerr

The 335i would/should win by a margin.

Most of the 335ds struggle to get low 13s at 104-106mph.

There is plenty of remapped/JB4 335i well into the 12s and over 110 terminals.

Achu's car performed really badly, but the E93 is much heavier to begin with before he added all the rest of the weight.

On the sheer accessable power though and I've driven a good few mapped i's and d's the mapped d wins hands down IMO compared with the mapped i which you've really got to work and as you say all that torque off the line and all that the d may struggle but turn the tables say on a rolling start me thinks to a point the d will easily teach the i a lesson but as the upper reaches are met the modded i will have its day. Its always been a contensious subject and as the video clip seems to suggest on a standard car its mighty close.

I could of have a d but chose the i only reason for me was I don't do the mileage and for that reason the i was a better bet.

[Ess]

Originally Posted by gaza01

Oh yes!!! Sounds like a plan!!!

Maybe we should do a Run What Ya Brung at Santa Pod in the New Year? I would be up for that, I'm sure it would be lots of fun

Originally Posted by ajs_335d

Yup same, me and my mate have e92 coupes my mates 335i is stage 1 remapped and my stage 2 335d is quicker, there was a guy on here who is a 335i owner and refused to admit/acknowledge a 335d can be quicker, thanks for proving you can be quicker.

To fair his is around 350 bhp mine 372 bhp but sheds leads more torque .

Remember the 335i which my car overtook was an E93, they are at a big disadvantage from the extra weight - not that they care I suppose when they are enjoying the roof down on a beautiful day. I expect coupe vs. coupe, it could be a very different story!

Originally Posted by old grey steve

i think on sheer accessible power put a decent remapped 335i against a decently remapped 335d the d will make mincemeat out of the i. The sheer torque and the punch thsta available makes thst for me abundantly clear.

Steve, you'll have to come down to Santa Pod and we can see if you are right! Looks like Kerr above doesn't agree

Originally Posted by Bmw10

Well in stock form they are incredibly close

This is true, but I suspect only after a remap will each one of them show their true colours.

Originally Posted by Kerr

The 335i would/should win by a margin.

Most of the 335ds struggle to get low 13s at 104-106mph.

There is plenty of remapped/JB4 335i well into the 12s and over 110 terminals.

Achu's car performed really badly, but the E93 is much heavier to begin with before he added all the rest of the weight.

The D times you have stated are consistent with what I was getting - but I'm completely inexperienced, it was my first time driving the strip. I would have expected a more seasoned driver to do better?


I think we all need to go down and have a go, I don't mind which is faster, but I think would be a great day. Perhaps I'll start a thread in the New Year to see if we have some takers

[Greg330]

After I fitted the JB4 I did a few test runs, took an average of 3 runs....

Off the top of my head the 50 - 100 was 5.7 secs (will double check).

It's easy to do, get a mate on the stopwatch and let's see what you guys can get?!!

[Greg330]

My only issue with the strip is there are quite a few variables. Like reaction time and also getting the power down. Plus manual vs auto is something else to consider!

Good fun trying though!!!

My ideal would be a runway and do a few different runs from a rolling start. Going to look into this....

[Ess]

Originally Posted by Kerr

Standard the 335d is 0-60mph in 6.1 secs and 0-100mph in 13.7secs.

The 335i is 0-60mph in 5.4secs for manual and 0-100mph in 12.4secs.

The more you tune the 335i, the bigger the gap gets.

By the same measure, the more you tune the D, the smaller the gap gets

Also according to Parkers, 0-60 on the E92 335d is 5.7 seconds:
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/review...pe-2006/36532/

Oh and also, this:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=306157

I wouldn't put too much faith in the BMW published figures. It was in their interest to advertise the i as faster than the d, and they are well known for publishing conservative figures.

Having said all of this, I am absolutely not claiming that the d is faster than the i, remapped or not!

[Ess]

Originally Posted by Greg330

My only issue with the strip is there are quite a few variables. Like reaction time and also getting the power down. Plus manual vs auto is something else to consider!

Good fun trying though!!!

My ideal would be a runway and do a few different runs from a rolling start. Going to look into this....

I believe the printout they give you shows you the time without the reaction time, i.e. what it actually took you to get from start to finish. It does also list the reaction time separately too.

Agreed about the manual vs. auto variable. I still think it would be a really fun day!

[Greg330]

Right guys Santa Pod is a go for 2015!!

I'm going to give these guys a call on Monday see what the rates are like....

http://www.bruntingthorpeprovingground.com/facilities/