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I have a question for those without functional EGR
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01-08-2015, 07:58 AM | #1 |
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Today, it was 6° outside. The 335d start to put out warm air after about 3 minutes of steady driving.
For those that have EGR blocked/tuned out or a combination of the two, do you notice any significant increase in engine warm up time? Significant increase (for myself) can be defined as at least an extra 5 minutes. |
01-08-2015, 09:04 AM | #2 | |
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01-08-2015, 09:26 AM | #3 |
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In respect to the heating system putting out warm air, isn't there an electric heater of some sort that kicks in initially to start providing warm air before the coolant temps rise and are able to do so through conventional means?
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01-08-2015, 10:43 AM | #4 | |
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I doubt that the egr has any large effect on warmup, although the cooler will throw some heat into the coolant. |
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01-08-2015, 10:47 AM | #5 |
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TDI did a comparison and there was a definite difference between the two. I dont think it means much though other than a bit more fuel wasted on warmup.
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01-08-2015, 10:49 AM | #6 |
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Thanks for all the replies. So, while engine warm up time may be lengthened, the factory-supplied, built-in electric heater should be able to supply warm air within the same amount of time as an EGR-equipped vehicle.
Does this seem like an accurate statement? |
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01-08-2015, 10:56 AM | #7 |
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The exhaust gas recirculation, EGR, is just that. HOT exhaust gases (bleed air from your exhaust if you will) are being directly introduced in to the intake stream. This, in addition to, as you mentioned the egr cooler, also decreases warm-up time.
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01-08-2015, 01:07 PM | #9 |
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Yes I would think so. If there is a difference in cabin heat time, I havent noticed it to be appreciable. If I start my car and its 45F (about the coldest its ever been in my garage here) it seems the heat is blowing within a half mile down the street. Which is surely much less than 5 minutes after starting. Someone with legitimate cold start experience might be able to give a better review.
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01-09-2015, 08:09 PM | #10 |
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The engine will take a little longer to warm up. Meanwhile you can see EGT going up more than usual 500-600 degrees, until the coolant reaches about 160F or "optimal operating temperature".
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01-09-2015, 10:18 PM | #11 | |
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With weather today its not really that bad at -20C but it heats nice. At -30C you will want to start off driving after 3 mins regardless because even a small load helps to heat it up better than idling.
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01-12-2015, 01:31 PM | #12 |
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even with single digit F temperatures, the ceramic heater present in the
335d provides a bit of warm air in as little as 1/4 mile of driving after initial startup and 30 seconds of warmup time. |
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