HELP! Changed coils and plugs, limp mode still present

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 01-23-2008, 10:42 AM

Okay so I changed my spark plugs and coils still have limp mode during continuous 3-4th gear shifts once my car warms up. Any idea what else It could be, I keep getting cylinder 6 misfire codes..Please help.

e90AW335i · 01-23-2008, 10:44 AM

Speed limit defeat installed?

silvrevo · 01-23-2008, 01:02 PM

Shiv just said the limp mode problems were solved a long time ago. Are you sure its a Limp mode?

silvrevo · 01-23-2008, 01:03 PM

Post #5

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108812

Bimmer335i07 · 01-23-2008, 01:06 PM

If all else fails. Remove the PROcede and take your car to the dealership.

hotrod2448 · 01-23-2008, 01:30 PM

What does the plug that came out of #6 look like?

Fubarsky · 01-23-2008, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chitown335i

Okay so I changed my spark plugs and coils still have limp mode during continuous 3-4th gear shifts once my car warms up. Any idea what else It could be, I keep getting cylinder 6 misfire codes..Please help.

Chitown not to be redundant as you may have done these things already.
I too had the 3 to 4 gear limp mode at 6800 RPM each time I did a 3-4 pull. This was after installing V2-12-19 map I believe. I first did the speed delimiting map without the extra green loom. I checked all connections and hoses, they were good, and then I re-installed the firmware and uploaded the speed limiting map 12-24. I then reset the ECU, disconnected the battery for an hour. This fixed my problem. I do not know if it was the firmware or map but it fixed the problem. I suspect I had a bad firmware download the first time. FYI man hope this helps but you may have heard it all before. G/L

e90AW335i · 01-23-2008, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fubarsky

Chitown not to be redundant as you may have done these things already.
I too had the 3 to 4 gear limp mode at 6800 RPM each time I did a 3-4 pull. This was after installing V2-12-19 map I believe. I first did the speed delimiting map without the extra green loom. I checked all connections and hoses, they were good, and then I re-installed the firmware and uploaded the speed limiting map 12-24. I then reset the ECU, disconnected the battery for an hour. This fixed my problem. I do not know if it was the firmware or map but it fixed the problem. I suspect I had a bad firmware download the first time. FYI man hope this helps but you may have heard it all before. G/L

That is why I was asking about that. It seems as if the speed delimiting map is causing problems for people.

1clean335i · 01-23-2008, 01:45 PM

could be the injector....... i've seen that happen

sambonator · 01-23-2008, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chitown335i

Okay so I changed my spark plugs and coils still have limp mode during continuous 3-4th gear shifts once my car warms up. Any idea what else It could be, I keep getting cylinder 6 misfire codes..Please help.

Did you do the plug replacement yourself or did you have BMW dealership do that? If you did it yourself, did you buy the plug tool? If so where'd you get it? Wanna sell it?

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 01-23-2008, 04:54 PM

Well I have the newest map, and yes i did run the extra green loom, and I am using the delimited map. Same issue, i have tried to disconnect the battery for an entire night same issue. It doesnt happen everytime i go from 3rd to 4th only when I do it consecutively. If the car is cold I have no issues, however, when the oil temp is around 230-250 the car will go into limp mode every few attempts to go over 100mph. I took the car to BMW and all I got was, "sorry but you need to stop redlining your car, there is nothing we can do for you since we cant take the car up to 100 mph to replicate the issue" How can I redline my car? I have a step! So I paid $520 to have BMW change the plugs and coils and I have the same issue. So now Im thinking its the injector since I always get Cylider 6 misfire. There is a couple of variables that i am thinking might cause it but they are pure speculation and I wanted your oppinion on what could be the issue.

1) the cold weather is chicago
2) hardware/software issue with the PROcede, (is there anyway to reformat it?)
3) the injector is bad

Please, someone help me!

hotrod2448 · 01-23-2008, 05:27 PM

Like someone said before pull the Procede and see if it still does it. If it doesn't you know where your problem is. If it continues press BMW harder to take care of it.

Hobbination · 01-23-2008, 06:01 PM

How come you had to pay $500 bucks to get them to diagnose your limp mode issue? Would it go into limp mode if you were all stock? And you got an 07 E92 right? If it happens stock, pull the Procede and take it back AND get your 500 bones back...

1clean335i · 01-23-2008, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hobbination

How come you had to pay $500 bucks to get them to diagnose your limp mode issue? Would it go into limp mode if you were all stock? And you got an 07 E92 right? If it happens stock, pull the Procede and take it back AND get your 500 bones back...

He paid 500 bucks for them to replace the plugs and coils, not diagnose.

vbmw335 · 01-23-2008, 07:08 PM

This problem does not occur when he turns everything back to stock.

bmwzimmer · 01-23-2008, 07:11 PM

Do you have the problem if you use remove the extra green loom and use the speed limited map?

e90AW335i · 01-23-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bmwzimmer

Do you have the problem if you use remove the extra green loom and use the speed limited map?

+1, that is what people have been saying to do. At least try it and see how it goes. I would like to see this get solved soon...G/L

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 01-23-2008, 08:42 PM

I am having this issue with and without the green loom. I also dont have this issue when I take the procede off. Also I notice that the car is shifting at a higher rpm then stock in forth gear its over 7000rpms vs 68-6900 rpms stock.

sambonator · 01-23-2008, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1clean335i

He paid 500 bucks for them to replace the plugs and coils, not diagnose.

Maybe they just took the $500 and didn't do anything since it was running fine stock.

Did he at least get all the used coils and plugs back?

NM_BMW · 01-23-2008, 10:05 PM

Chitown,

Have you tried using the latest 1-10-08 map along with the new firmware that was released on this date? Reason I ask is because you keep mentioning the 12-24 map, I know Shiv mentioned features changed in the latest map for the speed delimited. If it doesn't go into limp when the car is stock, then I would think your injector would not be the problem. My .02 is diagnose the PROcede.

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 01-24-2008, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sambonator

Maybe they just took the $500 and didn't do anything since it was running fine stock.

Did he at least get all the used coils and plugs back?

I was there when they did it and yes I got all the old ones back.

Vince@ V K Motorwerks · 01-24-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Humtek

Chitown,

Have you tried using the latest 1-10-08 map along with the new firmware that was released on this date? Reason I ask is because you keep mentioning the 12-24 map, I know Shiv mentioned features changed in the latest map for the speed delimited. If it doesn't go into limp when the car is stock, then I would think your injector would not be the problem. My .02 is diagnose the PROcede.

I do have that map and same issue.

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Vince@ V K Motorwerks Lieutenant Colonel 152 Rep 1,738 Posts Drives: 01 Black 911 Turbo, 09 X5 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomingdale, IL iTrader: (0)	Well I have the newest map, and yes i did run the extra green loom, and I am using the delimited map. Same issue, i have tried to disconnect the battery for an entire night same issue. It doesnt happen everytime i go from 3rd to 4th only when I do it consecutively. If the car is cold I have no issues, however, when the oil temp is around 230-250 the car will go into limp mode every few attempts to go over 100mph. I took the car to BMW and all I got was, "sorry but you need to stop redlining your car, there is nothing we can do for you since we cant take the car up to 100 mph to replicate the issue" How can I redline my car? I have a step! So I paid $520 to have BMW change the plugs and coils and I have the same issue. So now Im thinking its the injector since I always get Cylider 6 misfire. There is a couple of variables that i am thinking might cause it but they are pure speculation and I wanted your oppinion on what could be the issue. 1) the cold weather is chicago 2) hardware/software issue with the PROcede, (is there anyway to reformat it?) 3) the injector is bad Please, someone help me!
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hotrod2448 grand poobah 257 Rep 2,253 Posts Drives: F80 M3, F10 535i Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 335d [0.00]	Like someone said before pull the Procede and see if it still does it. If it doesn't you know where your problem is. If it continues press BMW harder to take care of it.
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Hobbination Lieutenant 65 Rep 502 Posts Drives: 2015 M4 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Honolulu HI iTrader: (0)	How come you had to pay $500 bucks to get them to diagnose your limp mode issue? Would it go into limp mode if you were all stock? And you got an 07 E92 right? If it happens stock, pull the Procede and take it back AND get your 500 bones back...
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Vince@ V K Motorwerks Lieutenant Colonel 152 Rep 1,738 Posts Drives: 01 Black 911 Turbo, 09 X5 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bloomingdale, IL iTrader: (0)	I am having this issue with and without the green loom. I also dont have this issue when I take the procede off. Also I notice that the car is shifting at a higher rpm then stock in forth gear its over 7000rpms vs 68-6900 rpms stock.
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