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      04-16-2015, 01:37 PM   #1
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wheels that are concave in the front

So over the last year I have been kicking around the idea of getting new wheels...

I almost bought a set of VMR 701s as I love Advan RS, but the VMRs are obviously way cheaper.

But, looking for some more concave wheels, it seems all the wheels are out there for our E9x's are concave in the rear, but not in the front, which in my opinion looks goofy and unbalanced.
I understand that is mostly due to the offsets and whatnot, but every now and again you see some good concave wheels front and rear for e9x's

Does anyone know of a good concave wheel that is actually concave in the rear AND the front?

I am NOT interested in "CSL style concave" wheels, that VMR and many others make. They really aren't that concave In the rear, and not at all in the front, and a ton of people already have them.

I like mesh and spoke-y type wheels.... and the traditional 5 and 6 spoke wheels.
I LOVE the forgstar f14 wheels, but running SDC's front and rear is too extreme for me (even though it looks awesome) and running a SDC in the rear with a standard front just doesn't look right to me.


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      04-16-2015, 02:10 PM   #2
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Are 17s too small for your taste? I have the same setup as e90ftw in this thread but with slightly wider tires.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919481
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If you run 10" or wider up front you'll get the desired look.
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Are 17s too small for your taste? I have the same setup as e90ftw in this thread but with slightly wider tires.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=919481
Yes, very.

Looking for 19" only...

However, I do like the APEX wheels... I have noticed they seem to have a decent amount of concave in the front unlike many other wheels of that same style.
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to get the concave you are looking for you would probably have to do at least a 9.5 in the front. Of course offsets does play a nice part in the concave look. To get what you are really wanting you are going to have to go custom wheels. As you mentioned most of your cast wheels are not going to have the profile you desire. Getting the custom 2-3 piece wheel you can play with the concavity a little more. I would suggest looking into Works wheels or K3 Projekt, they both have mesh and 5-6 spoke concave wheels.
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In a standard cast wheel, the only way to get more concave is to go wider and we don't have a ton of room in front unless you go pretty aggressive. Also, most 1 piece wheels only come in a few offsets and none may work in the front.

If you go custom, they can do a lot more things to get the look you want.
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Check out the Apex EC-7.
They have a 19x9 for the front that is pretty concave.

I just bought the EC-7 wheels for my car.
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Stock there is almost no camber in the front and most people don't want to buy camberplates. Once you add some negative camber there is plenty of clearance for concave wheels. I have sdc f14's and they are perfectly flush with 9.5" et22 and 11"et28. Now I want more stretch and poke. I regret not going with the 10" wheel up front and lower offsets in the rear. I posted some pictures here
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Stock there is almost no camber in the front and most people don't want to buy camberplates. Once you add some negative camber there is plenty of clearance for concave wheels. I have sdc f14's and they are perfectly flush with 9.5" et22 and 11"et28. Now I want more stretch and poke. I regret not going with the 10" wheel up front and lower offsets in the rear. I posted some pictures here
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OK, dude, seriously, your wheels are perfect.

How much fender work and camber did you have to do to get those to fit? What about stretching your tires and whatnot?
And, what are you lowered on?

Sorry for so many "stance" questions, but if I could have that setup on my car, that is exactly what I'd do...

They look better than same others Ive seen running the SDC up front on non-M cars... I assume due to the camber? Others seem to have just a little too much poke for my liking.

How long have you been running this setup for? How excessive is your tire wear with that camber?
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I have style 220M on my car, and it has reasonable concave in front and a bit more in the rear.

Maybe that will work for you? Using 19x8.5, 19x9.5

Most M3s have this wheel if you need to visualize it.
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I have style 220M on my car, and it has reasonable concave in front and a bit more in the rear.

Maybe that will work for you? Using 19x8.5, 19x9.5

Most M3s have this wheel if you need to visualize it.
When I bought my car 4 years ago, I almost bought a set of OEM 220M wheels...

they are OK, but not my favorite style. I do agree they have decent concave to them.

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I remember a guy on here who had a black e90, that sat on some really nice looking 6-spoke gunmetal concave wheels... I've been trying to find a picture of that car to find out what wheels they were, but Im not having much luck.
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Offset and width determine wheel concavity not the style.
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Offset and width determine wheel concavity not the style.
True, but he's right that CSL-style rims have almost no concave, even in the back. At least I haven't seen any.

OP, Rotiform INDs are "spokey" and have some pretty good concave in the front:

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I think maybe they're referring to the "concave" wheels with the curved spokes. So most of the face is flat, then it drops heavily into the center. It doesn't look very concave at all when compared to the wheels where the spokes are straighter and it drops from the rim all the way down to the center.

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I LOVE the forgstar f14 wheels, but running SDC's front and rear is too extreme for me (even though it looks awesome) and running a SDC in the rear with a standard front just doesn't look right to me.
I just ordered a set of these, but instead of going with the standard front, aka semi concave, I went with a 9.5" deep concave so I could have some kind of concavity in the front. Then went with 10" SDC for the rears.
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Here's an old photo of one of our customers on VMR V701 19x9.5 square. They wanted the more concave look (front) so went with the aggressive front spec





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True, but he's right that CSL-style rims have almost no concave, even in the back. At least I haven't seen any.

OP, Rotiform INDs are "spokey" and have some pretty good concave in the front:

It's all in the specs of the wheel. I could get hose INDs to be extremely concave front and rear.

It's the same thing I did with my wheels.
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I just ordered a set of these, but instead of going with the standard front, aka semi concave, I went with a 9.5" deep concave so I could have some kind of concavity in the front. Then went with 10" SDC for the rears.
I've always wonder why people haven't done this more...? What is the offset of the 9.5 wheel you plan on running in the front?

Pretty much running a "standard" rear wheel in the fronts, matched with SDC rear wheels...
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OK, dude, seriously, your wheels are perfect.

How much fender work and camber did you have to do to get those to fit? What about stretching your tires and whatnot?
And, what are you lowered on?

Sorry for so many "stance" questions, but if I could have that setup on my car, that is exactly what I'd do...

They look better than same others Ive seen running the SDC up front on non-M cars... I assume due to the camber? Others seem to have just a little too much poke for my liking.

How long have you been running this setup for? How excessive is your tire wear with that camber?
Thanks, I was going for perfectly flush without excessive camber and as little stretch as possible. The coilovers are bc extreme low with 10k front and 16k rear springs.The wheel specs are
9.5 et22 245/35/19 -1.8 degrees camber 0 toe
11et28(et33 with a 5mm spacer) 275/30/19 -2 degrees camber 0 toe

My front fenders were flattened by a body shop using a hammer and dolly. They are about half as thick as the bumper(before it got worn down ). The front surprisingly doesn't rub at the height I'm at but I want to go lower and it is too tight of a fit. With a 235/35/19 it would be no problem and you might not have to flatten the fenders like I did.

The rear fenders were rolled then I sanded it down as thin as can be near the rear bumper tapering it out about 5" away from the bumper. I can't have more than 3 passengers for long distances without taking out the 5mm spacers. Other than that I don't really worry about rubbing. This is what I used to sand the fenders.http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...der-92158.html

I've had the wheels about a year and I use them year round even in the snow a few times. I reused the tires from my last set of rims so they already had some miles on them. The front is wearing out a little faster than the rear mainly on the inside from turning. I am going to flip the tires so they wear more evenly. As long as I get a few years out of them I don't mind replacing the front tires more often than the rears.
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I've always wonder why people haven't done this more...? What is the offset of the 9.5 wheel you plan on running in the front?

Pretty much running a "standard" rear wheel in the fronts, matched with SDC rear wheels...
Went with a 33 offset in the front.
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+1 on the F14 SDC's and ARC-8's.
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