Got in car and suspension collapsed

LOBST · 05-24-2015, 10:36 AM

Hi
Just checking if this has happened to anyone else and what it could be.

Car: 2007 E92 MSport 320d

I've been away for two weeks and have just started my car.
I went to pull away and there was a big bang.
The front right suspension seems to have collapsed and the wheel is touching the arch. Other side looks fine

Going to jack it up tomorrow and have a look but thought I would ask to see if this happens to other similar cars.

Not sure how it can collapse my moving it a foot but glad it happened on my drive rather than on the motorway.

Any info appreciated

lolololol · 05-24-2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by LOBST

Hi
Just checking if this has happened to anyone else and what it could be.

Car: 2007 E92 MSport 320d

I've been away for two weeks and have just started my car.
I went to pull away and there was a big bang.
The front right suspension seems to have collapsed and the wheel is touching the arch. Other side looks fine

Going to jack it up tomorrow and have a look but thought I would ask to see if this happens to other similar cars.

Not sure how it can collapse my moving it a foot but glad it happened on my drive rather than on the motorway.

Any info appreciated

Did you put on weight whilst on holiday ðŸ˜‰

CraigUK · 05-24-2015, 10:54 AM

I had the lower front control arm snap on my e91 under braking. The wheel was rubbing on the rear of the wheel arch afterwards.

BMW said that someone had jacked the car up using the control arm as a jacking point. Couldn't prove otherwise.

Murphyslaw · 05-24-2015, 11:18 AM

Mate I feel your pain. My spring snapped this morning. Jack it up and get the wheel off. Only way to be sure.

JM85 · 05-24-2015, 11:43 AM

I would imagine a spring has snapped, your brakes might have rusted on causing added force on the spring, happened to me on a old car

time to look for lowering springs....

gsr · 05-24-2015, 01:56 PM

Same thing happened to me. Got car out of the garage to do daily commute. Rubbing noise from the front. Driver's side spring had snapped overnight in the garage!!!!

LOBST · 05-24-2015, 08:43 PM

Thanks everyone!

Managed to get the wheel off and the spring has snapped.

Would the spring have needed to be already damaged for it to snap like this. I only moved about a foot

I guess I need to get a mobile mechanic out, will they be able to fix this on my drive or will I need a tow to the garage, and would you recommend doing both front springs?

JM85 - Don't think I need lowering springs. The bumpers an inch off the floor

jammy78 · 05-25-2015, 03:41 AM

A front spring broke on my old e92 the other week - car had been stationary for a week!

Luckily I had warranty, otherwise BMW would have charge £700.... they had trouble with the realignment!!!

They only replaced the broken spring..... I asked should both be changed & they said its not required.

E92Dan · 05-25-2015, 04:05 AM

£700 to change one spring?!

jammy78 · 05-25-2015, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by E92Dan

£700 to change one spring?!

That's what they told me! They had trouble realigning the wheels.... bolts had seized etc....

It was done under warranty, so I didn't care!

HighlandPete · 05-25-2015, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LOBST

Thanks everyone!

Managed to get the wheel off and the spring has snapped.

Would the spring have needed to be already damaged for it to snap like this. I only moved about a foot.

Springs often break overnight, while parked. Sometimes the temperature drop is the final straw.

Many failures are due to a small amount of corrosion (coating has flaked). Along with winter road salts, contribute to hydrogen embrittlement, causing micro cracking, just a matter of time before it just snaps.

I had both my front springs on my E91 break while static, one after a bad winter, the other spring the following winter.

HighlandPete

HighlandPete · 05-25-2015, 07:16 AM

The picture of Murphyslaw's spring in the link, shows the kind of embrittlement failure.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1130592

HighlandPete

smacg · 05-25-2015, 07:28 AM

happened to me the other week, likely a burst coil spring. Indy should repair for approx 200 - 250

old grey steve · 05-25-2015, 08:45 AM

We see a shed load of springs going AWOL, its sadly fairly common where we are due to our road surfaces.

One observation I've made is that the if you have a 5 series especially an M Sport they seem to be more common for us at least on the fronts than I've seen on any other BMW model, springs usually corrode over time leading to weakness, usually if you look at the rear springs on a car for instance on the lower 1/3 of the coil this area is where the coils corrode and eventaully usually let go, oddly enough going back to the 5's especially looking at the fronts they let go quite high up on the upper 3rd causing the effected side to collapse almost touching the tyre and usually lock to lock wheel movement is not possible, yet when you inspect the spring corrosion wise they don't appear visully to be that bad.

drobbie · 05-25-2015, 10:11 AM

A few months back, I drove home from work without a problem.

A few hours later I tried to reverse out of my drive but there was a big fat ugly grinding noise.

Spring snapped sitting in the driveway!

These things happen!

AWSAWS · 05-25-2015, 05:44 PM

...and if something like this happens at speed, what then?

Major accident???

LOBST · 05-26-2015, 08:26 AM

Hi again

I'm trying to source a new spring and I'm unsure what I need.

My car is a 320d Msport e92 2007.

Will it have m-tech suspension or just standard. Suppliers are saying that some of the msports don't have m-tech and just have styling.

Is there anywhere I can run a check on my car to see what I need?

Jase 320d · 05-26-2015, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AWSAWS

...and if something like this happens at speed, what then?

Major accident???

Yeah imagine going over a hump back bridge and getting a bit of air and it snaps :O

HighlandPete · 05-26-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LOBST

Hi again

I'm trying to source a new spring and I'm unsure what I need.

My car is a 320d Msport e92 2007.

Will it have m-tech suspension or just standard. Suppliers are saying that some of the msports don't have m-tech and just have styling.

Is there anywhere I can run a check on my car to see what I need?

There is always BMW!

May be worth getting a specific part number for your car, if you are after one spring.

This comment may not apply to your car, but BMW specification can be to a particular spring. I know with my car it was option based. Because it had a panoramic roof it had a specific spring, had to wait for one to come from Germany.

Put your VIN in the link to RealOEM and you should see what suspension you have on the car.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/select

HighlandPete

Jase 320d · 05-26-2015, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOBST

Hi again

I'm trying to source a new spring and I'm unsure what I need.

My car is a 320d Msport e92 2007.

Will it have m-tech suspension or just standard. Suppliers are saying that some of the msports don't have m-tech and just have styling.

Is there anywhere I can run a check on my car to see what I need?

Suppliers are talking shite

You need msport specific springs (they are shorter and stiffer than non msport springs)

Mtech is americans name for msport is it not

Best place i found was eurocarparts online. Type in reg number then browse through the springs on there, read the info on the springs and it will say in comments box whether its is for cars with M-techniks i think or non m-techniks. You obviously want the ones with m-techniks or whatever they call msport

Reece · 05-26-2015, 03:20 PM

Not sure what bmw would charge for 1 spring but i would feel a bit uneasy buying just 1 spring from euro car parts or similar.

Surely replacing 1 spring is going to knock how everything is sitting out of place?

LOBST · 05-26-2015, 03:29 PM

Thanks

Spoke to BMW and they just said it was msport suspension. Cost was 130 for one spring which I thought was ok.

I'm going to get a pair from europarts (£110) as it does list them for cars with m-tech and standard, so they should be good.. Tanks jase

At least then I have the same setup left and right

Just need to find someone to come out a fit it now or get a tow into town

Thanks again!

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LOBST New Member 5 Rep 12 Posts Drives: 320d MSPORT Coupe Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	Got in car and suspension collapsed Hi Just checking if this has happened to anyone else and what it could be. Car: 2007 E92 MSport 320d I've been away for two weeks and have just started my car. I went to pull away and there was a big bang. The front right suspension seems to have collapsed and the wheel is touching the arch. Other side looks fine Going to jack it up tomorrow and have a look but thought I would ask to see if this happens to other similar cars. Not sure how it can collapse my moving it a foot but glad it happened on my drive rather than on the motorway. Any info appreciated
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CraigUK Captain 126 Rep 641 Posts Drives: F11 LCI 520D Sport Tourer Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Durham iTrader: (0)	I had the lower front control arm snap on my e91 under braking. The wheel was rubbing on the rear of the wheel arch afterwards. BMW said that someone had jacked the car up using the control arm as a jacking point. Couldn't prove otherwise.
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05-24-2015, 11:18 AM	#4
Murphyslaw Private First Class 5 Rep 89 Posts Drives: Bmw e91 330d Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lincoln iTrader: (0)	Mate I feel your pain. My spring snapped this morning. Jack it up and get the wheel off. Only way to be sure.
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JM85 Captain 102 Rep 842 Posts Drives: EBII F30 + AW E90 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Durham iTrader: (0)	I would imagine a spring has snapped, your brakes might have rusted on causing added force on the spring, happened to me on a old car time to look for lowering springs....
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gsr Private 17 Rep 79 Posts Drives: 335d & M4 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: warks iTrader: (1)	Same thing happened to me. Got car out of the garage to do daily commute. Rubbing noise from the front. Driver's side spring had snapped overnight in the garage!!!!
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05-24-2015, 08:43 PM	#7
LOBST New Member 5 Rep 12 Posts Drives: 320d MSPORT Coupe Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	Thanks everyone! Managed to get the wheel off and the spring has snapped. Would the spring have needed to be already damaged for it to snap like this. I only moved about a foot I guess I need to get a mobile mechanic out, will they be able to fix this on my drive or will I need a tow to the garage, and would you recommend doing both front springs? JM85 - Don't think I need lowering springs. The bumpers an inch off the floor
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05-25-2015, 03:41 AM	#8
jammy78 Colonel 136 Rep 2,012 Posts Drives: F31 335D Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Windsor iTrader: (21)	A front spring broke on my old e92 the other week - car had been stationary for a week! Luckily I had warranty, otherwise BMW would have charge £700.... they had trouble with the realignment!!! They only replaced the broken spring..... I asked should both be changed & they said its not required.
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E92Dan Captain 40 Rep 842 Posts Drives: 330d Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: northampton iTrader: (0)	£700 to change one spring?!
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HighlandPete Lieutenant General 6548 Rep 15,857 Posts Drives: BMW F11 535i Touring Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scotland, Highland Region iTrader: (0)	The picture of Murphyslaw's spring in the link, shows the kind of embrittlement failure. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1130592 HighlandPete
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smacg Smacg 7 Rep 86 Posts Drives: 08 E92 320d Msport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Aberdeen iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW 320d M Sport [0.00]	happened to me the other week, likely a burst coil spring. Indy should repair for approx 200 - 250
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old grey steve Colonel 288 Rep 2,796 Posts Drives: MK 7.5 Golf R Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK in Hertfordshire iTrader: (2)	We see a shed load of springs going AWOL, its sadly fairly common where we are due to our road surfaces. One observation I've made is that the if you have a 5 series especially an M Sport they seem to be more common for us at least on the fronts than I've seen on any other BMW model, springs usually corrode over time leading to weakness, usually if you look at the rear springs on a car for instance on the lower 1/3 of the coil this area is where the coils corrode and eventaully usually let go, oddly enough going back to the 5's especially looking at the fronts they let go quite high up on the upper 3rd causing the effected side to collapse almost touching the tyre and usually lock to lock wheel movement is not possible, yet when you inspect the spring corrosion wise they don't appear visully to be that bad. __________________ Last edited by old grey steve; 05-25-2015 at 08:53 AM..
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drobbie Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 250 Posts Drives: 2016 M235i Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland iTrader: (0)	A few months back, I drove home from work without a problem. A few hours later I tried to reverse out of my drive but there was a big fat ugly grinding noise. Spring snapped sitting in the driveway! These things happen!
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AWSAWS Colonel 277 Rep 2,340 Posts Drives: E92 GC Turbos, FBO, 335i DCT Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Valhalla iTrader: (0)	...and if something like this happens at speed, what then? Major accident???
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LOBST New Member 5 Rep 12 Posts Drives: 320d MSPORT Coupe Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	Hi again I'm trying to source a new spring and I'm unsure what I need. My car is a 320d Msport e92 2007. Will it have m-tech suspension or just standard. Suppliers are saying that some of the msports don't have m-tech and just have styling. Is there anywhere I can run a check on my car to see what I need?
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Reece Major 53 Rep 1,222 Posts Drives: e90 lci 330d Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Essex iTrader: (0)	Not sure what bmw would charge for 1 spring but i would feel a bit uneasy buying just 1 spring from euro car parts or similar. Surely replacing 1 spring is going to knock how everything is sitting out of place? __________________ E90 lci 330d, alpine white, pro nav, adaptive xenons, heated electric leather, folding mirrors, alpine retrofit kit with L7 subs, performance grilles, 40w led angel eye bulbs
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LOBST New Member 5 Rep 12 Posts Drives: 320d MSPORT Coupe Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United Kingdom iTrader: (0)	Thanks Spoke to BMW and they just said it was msport suspension. Cost was 130 for one spring which I thought was ok. I'm going to get a pair from europarts (£110) as it does list them for cars with m-tech and standard, so they should be good.. Tanks jase At least then I have the same setup left and right Just need to find someone to come out a fit it now or get a tow into town Thanks again!
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