[Kassim786]

Speaking on behalf of My brother in law who would like some advice

He was unfortunately involved in a crash earlier today. There were two cars
Travelling in front of him. The car right at the front braked hard and caused the women in the middle to slam on to her brakes. However my brother in law reacted to late and the inevitable happened.

He confirms that the lady did brake hard however he Is stating it was not his fault (he had no chance to react?)

If insurance are involved who's fault will this be !? (There is video proof dash cam)

The other driver who brake checked the lady drove off upon seeing the crash (more than likely tried to cause a pile up)

In regards to the vehicle it's not in good health as there is leaks and damage... However the whole family (2+ 3 kids) were unharmed.




Here's the video could ... Who's do you think is at fault guys ?

[Alex.J]

From the video its hard to tell, however, it looks like he had plenty of time to stop..

Seems quite abit of space and not a great speed.

[wallsmk2]

Driving a bit too close I think, but enough time to react. He didn't react.

[Digitalize]

Completely his fault, cut and dry. She had time to stop, why didn't he?

Considering how good the brake systems are in this car, you'd definitely notice the dip in the car as it braked hard, looked like he didn't even touch the brakes.

[djgandy]

If you go in the back of someone, it's pretty hard to win, unless they cut you up then slammed the brakes on you should have left a larger gap.

If you have video footage of the first driver brake checking then you might be able to refer it to the police for dangerous driving , but don't hold your breath.

[Russbmw]

Originally Posted by Digitalize

Completely his fault, cut and dry. She had time to stop, why didn't he?

Considering how good the brake systems are in this car, you'd definitely notice the dip in the car as it braked hard, looked like he didn't even touch the brakes.

This.

I was quite shocked to be honest, as it was like the camera was looking but the driver wasn't! Just as the car crossed the road I was thinking, fucking hell, I'd be keeping my distance a bit.

Not saying your brother was driving like a dick or anything, but it was pretty clearly a brain fart moment -as it very much appears that he was away with the fairies at the time the car infront braked.

Very unfortunate, as certainly didn't look fast or like the speed limit was being exceeded (or if it was, everyone in front was also).

As has been mentioned above, accidents were someone has run into the back of someone else, it almost always falls in the favour of the person that got rear-ended. Mainly because the person behind is deemed as either driving without due care and attention, driving too fast, driving too close, or driving dangerously.

That said, as noted, if someone infront of the car he hit was dicking about, there may be an outside chance - but pretty unlikely IMO - mainly because the lady didn't smack into him. If she'd clouted him first, then the chain of events is different.

Also, the video shows some guy pulling over to the side of the road to park? So if he was dithering as to where to stop, that could have instigated some confusing braking by the car behind (which the lady might have thought was brake checking). It's all a bit far fetched to stand up in an insurance bun fight though, IMO.

[jrp73]

think it's clear he was at fault for this. Looks like he was too close to start of with and doesn't look like he even broke??

[AWSAWS]

Ah man, he needs to be more attentive.

[djgandy]

Oh, didn't see the vid at first.

Don't think he's got a chance. He wasn't following close, but looks like he's just not braked.

[ndj]

Minimum separation "distance" in dry conditions is 2 seconds. Unfortunately he didn't give that so he was following too close. Cut and dried I'm afraid.

[AlanYoro35i]

A good driver concentrating on the road would be able to react.

Video also shows the light turned red the moment he was crossing the light...

wouldn't use this footage to argue.

but since the family is ok thats all it matters.money can be work for again so i wouldn't make a fuss about it.

Would automatically be his fault going into the back of someone, insurance wouldn't even bother trying to argue for your sake.

my uncle was following a car with more than 2 second gap on a rainy day. a lorry went pass and make a hugh puddle over the car in front. women got scared and slammed the brakes!! Then the lorry went pass my uncle and got a puddle over him.. the wipers didn't have a chance to even react and bang!!

[TheGlobetrotter]

Hate to break it to you but it's pretty clear from the video. It doesn't look like he braked at all...more like coasted into the car in front of him. You should ask him what he was looking at. Definitely not the road!

[djgandy]

Looking at it again, and the damage, I have to agree with what many are saying. It doesn't even look like he braked. These cars stop hard and fast with a pump of the pedal.

What did the car in front look like? If a 5 series looks like that, I'd imagine the Peugeot car must be a near write off.

[AlanYoro35i]

Originally Posted by djgandy

Looking at it again, and the damage, I have to agree with what many are saying. It doesn't even look like he braked. These cars stop hard and fast with a pump of the pedal.

What did the car in front look like? If a 5 series looks like that, I'd imagine the Peugeot car must be a near write off.

probably became 2 seater car!

[Kerr]

100% his fault without any argument. If you are too close to the car in front and can't stop, it's always the driver behind at fault.

[Waspo]

Not a wing or a prayer!

Glad the wife and kids are ok, but if he had them in his car and driving like that, he should have his Bottom severly SLAPPED!!!!

He actually got off very lightly, with none of his family hurt, lets hope he has learnt an expensive lesson!


Quite stupid and reckless!

[The0pportunist]

Stab in the dark but maybe the lady in front and the dude in front of her are connected and planned the crash? That is text book style of creating an accident in their favour. 'The driver that brake checked the lady drove off so cannot be traced'

Hard to prove of course but i would dig a little deeper especially with all the insurance fraudsters on our streets.

[Ao1]

Hard to tell but it looks like the car that pulled over to park was indicating, although that would not have been visible two cars back from the drivers position. it looks like the white car stopped before hitting the car in front of it, but the hazard caused by the car pulling over would have been more visible to both the white car and the car in front of it.

100% your brother in law's fault from an insurance perspective.

[MTTH]

Originally Posted by The0pportunist

Stab in the dark but maybe the lady in front and the dude in front of her are connected and planned the crash? That is text book style of creating an accident in their favour. 'The driver that brake checked the lady drove off so cannot be traced'

Hard to prove of course but i would dig a little deeper especially with all the insurance fraudsters on our streets.

Even still its his fault. He didn't even hit the brake as the car would've shifted its weight to the front which would've reflected in the video. He had PLENTY of time to react and he wasn't even drive fast.

[drobbie]

Own fault. I would delete the video from here as pretty much shows driving without due care and attention.

[ahmedb]

That looks a lot like Coleman Road near General Hospital.

Glad to hear the family are okay (Alhamdulillah).

Unfortunately, I have to agree with most of the comments already made.
I'm surprised that there isn't much damage to the f10

[ben-e92]

In my opinion it looked like a shorter distance between the front car and the Peugeot and she/he managed to stop so bmw driver fault. Sorry. Doesn't matter will be his fault anyway because he rear ended the peugeot. One of those things long as everyone's alright

Ben