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      07-11-2015, 11:03 PM   #1
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Single Turbo N54 beats Hellcat!

While in Mexico got a great opportunity to get some runs in with a 2015 Hellcat Charger bones stock with drag radials. Every one was really laid back and cool great looking and sounding car and for a stock vehicle impressive as well. We did multiple runs and all were roll on at about 50-140 and at 140 were around 4-6 cars. May need to find a way to hook through 3rd gear haha but the tires are new so i'm going to blow these off before changing out.

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      07-12-2015, 12:21 AM   #2
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I've beaten a hellcat also. I've got dcis,downpipes, Alpina tune,jb4 tune and running e85. Yeah another one for the hairchested N54 !!

I can smell the testron out of the tailpipes
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      07-12-2015, 01:25 AM   #5
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I've beaten a hellcat also. I've got dcis,downpipes, Alpina tune,jb4 tune and running e85. Yeah another one for the hairchested N54 !!

I can smell the testron out of the tailpipes
Perhaps you raced a shaker or scat pack challenger (Many people do and mistakenly think they've faced a hellcat). Stock turbo 335s aren't even in the ballpark fast as a hellcat. They trap 125mph MINIMUM which is big turbo or maxed out hybrid twins territory.
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      07-12-2015, 02:05 AM   #6
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Same issue, same kit...3rd I just roast the tires and I am only at 22psi
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You sure that was a hellcat?
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You sure that was a hellcat?
I bet it was, I smoke then easily....especially on a roll.
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Dont get me wrong, much respect to your setup just inquiring.
But your car and the hellcat prob put down similar numbers to the wheels, it probably comes down to weight at that point which you prob have a 400-500lb advantage?

In that vid your car just pulls harder than I would imagine.
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Dont get me wrong, much respect to your setup just inquiring.
But your car and the hellcat prob put down similar numbers to the wheels, it probably comes down to weight at that point which you prob have a 400-500lb advantage?

In that vid your car just pulls harder than I would imagine.
Hes around 700whp in that race. Hellcat is like 600whp afaik on a good night lol
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Hes around 700whp in that race. Hellcat is like 600whp afaik on a good night lol
My bad, I had thought I read that the hellcat was a bit under rated due to the wheel horse power numbers it puts out but maybe Im wrong.
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Hellcats weigh like pigs. No reason a top mounted bigger single turbo n54 with a fuelit stg3 kit can't put a hurting on a hellcat.
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Hes around 700whp in that race. Hellcat is like 600whp afaik on a good night lol
No we had a local shop do some baseline pulls before mods. Iirc they are under rated by 35-40hp. This seems to be the general belief as other dynos resulted the same numbers.
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I am positive it's a hell cat lol I work at a Chrysler dealer in service trust me I know what i'm looking for. I have a full video that shows it's a hellcat but it has more info about both parties then I care to share so out of respect for both of us I shortened it to the simple race. We did about 6-8 runs between two nights and guys was VERY cool relaxed and was on his 4th set of tires since ha had it LOL. It had already seen over 50 laps at a local circuit to him as well with him driving.
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Perhaps you raced a shaker or scat pack challenger (Many people do and mistakenly think they've faced a hellcat). Stock turbo 335s aren't even in the ballpark fast as a hellcat. They trap 125mph MINIMUM which is big turbo or maxed out hybrid twins territory.
This is probably the case this is as his put down about 625 WHP that day on the dyno in the wrong gear in the proper gear it should be about the same as the others making 650+ WHP
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I am positive it's a hell cat lol I work at a Chrysler dealer in service trust me I know what i'm looking for. I have a full video that shows it's a hellcat but it has more info about both parties then I care to share so out of respect for both of us I shortened it to the simple race. We did about 6-8 runs between two nights and guys was VERY cool relaxed and was on his 4th set of tires since ha had it LOL. It had already seen over 50 laps at a local circuit to him as well with him driving.
Damn, your shit is beast mode!
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Damn, your shit is beast mode!
again thanks miller LOL
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I don't understand how your getting traction, I have 295 PSS and spin them like crazy.
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Nice work. Also like seeing it done with Godspeed FMIC. Lot of FMIC snobs look down on the cheaper units but they seem to have a pretty good track record for high HP applications. I think the 850+ WHP current N54 record holder runs 7" VRSF for example.
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Racing in mexico is so much fun
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I don't understand how your getting traction, I have 295 PSS and spin them like crazy.
HAHA not sure it does spin but it is motivated as it spins still moving forward i'm over all pretty happy with how it puts it down. I do badly need sub frame bushings though I can feel a lot of looseness on hard accel.
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I know I was racing a Hellcat, perhaps as stated if we were in different gears he may have won.

I'm surprised as mine is stock.turbos, jb4,downpipes, dci's and e85 40%
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