[Bours]

Hey guys. I recently got a dp and a charge pipe installed at my indy shop. When the guy opened my hood he was amazed i didnt have an intake. He said he never saw someone with dp and tune without an intake and insisted that the getting an intake is necessary to get better airflow,*

Peronally, i don't like the whoooosh sound it provides and id like to keep the stock one. Can i get away with it or it will break something eventually ? For now i have dp jb4 stage 2 charge pipe and always 94 octane on map 2 at 15 psi. Can i move on and install other upgrades or i absolutly need a upgraded intake ? Thanks everyone and btw my car is a e90 335i n55 2011 x drive sedan

[Dhillon92]

You dont NEED an intake, especially if you're going to continue running map 2. I would say at the very least get a drop in air filter. IMO, if you're going to run more than Map 2 psi, then I would get an intake.

[Bours]

Originally Posted by Dhillon92

You dont NEED an intake, especially if you're going to continue running map 2. I would say at the very least get a drop in air filter. IMO, if you're going to run more than Map 2 psi, then I would get an intake.

Ok thank you for the reply ! The drop in filter seems right then

[weehe126]

Second the drop in.

[david in germany]

LOL!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1150253

[Bours]

Originally Posted by david in germany

LOL!

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1150253

Haha busted ! My bad i just wanted to get quick info

[Bours]

But hey i heard a drop in filter provides 0 gains and can actually danage the MAF sensor if you oil too much when its time...now im confused loll

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Intake is an important addition when doing exhaust and tunes. If you open up the restrictions post turbo and pump more air through the engine by increasing boost then you need to open up the intake side in some way. Intake is the beat, and 2nd best would be a drop-in filter.

Mike

[CantCatchMe]

PTF said to me personally, no need for an intake. Just get a drop in aFe dry filter. You're done.

[Dhillon92]

Yea its upto you, get a dry drop in filter and you won't worry about oil on the mad.

Personally +1 on mikes comment, a burger intake is very affordable and its all sound and gains (especially high boost). I have it and it sounds great, I also like to hear what my turbo is doing, matched with a downpipe it makes the overall audibles awesome!

[Euroboost91]

+1 on drop in filter.

I run map 5 with a DP, FMIC and CP and I have the drop in filter instead due to South Florida's weather and don't want to deal with heat soak.

[Bours]

Originally Posted by CantCatchMe

PTF said to me personally, no need for an intake. Just get a drop in aFe dry filter. You're done.

Oh really ? What mods you had when they told you this ? And did they say why you dont need one ?

[Dhillon92]

Dude you are over thinking the whole intake thing, if you prefer it, get one, if not, the stock one won't hold you back. I see your same thread on the other site as well and if you look at some peoples setups; they run full bolt on map 5 minus intake, which like stated before is alright. You've been suggested to get one, but its 100% safe to run the stock one if you prefer.

Ive spoken to PTF and they think the stock intake is capable enough, and they may he right, but for the price I would just go for it. I'm not sure if you're just asking this over and over to have someone convince you to buy one lol.

You can also find many dynos and threads literally based on stock vs. Aftermarket intake on the n55.

I hope this clears up your questions bud!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Adding an intake on a FBO car will give you an extra 10 whp . If you do not want to add one, you will be fine with the stock intake or K&N filter

[Bours]

Originally Posted by Dhillon92

Dude you are over thinking the whole intake thing, if you prefer it, get one, if not, the stock one won't hold you back. I see your same thread on the other site as well and if you look at some peoples setups; they run full bolt on map 5 minus intake, which like stated before is alright. You've been suggested to get one, but its 100% safe to run the stock one if you prefer.

Ive spoken to PTF and they think the stock intake is capable enough, and they may he right, but for the price I would just go for it. I'm not sure if you're just asking this over and over to have someone convince you to buy one lol.

You can also find many dynos and threads literally based on stock vs. Aftermarket intake on the n55.

I hope this clears up your questions bud!

Yea i was trying to learn on a very interesting subject ! Thank you for your help bro !

[Bours]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Adding an intake on a FBO car will give you an extra 10 whp . If you do not want to add one, you will be fine with the stock intake or K&N filter

Ok thx for the info big mike !

[melloww22]

You don't need a CAI but you will need a FMIC upgrade

[Bours]

Originally Posted by melloww22

You don't need a CAI but you will need a FMIC upgrade

may i ask why exactly ? because i heard it gives maximum output at each WOt runs and with no FMIC my power is less wtihin each WOT runs. But if i dont floor it all the times and just a few pulls per day do i really need a FMIC ??

[Dhillon92]

You will definitely need a fmic, even on a hot day the stock fmic will be heatsoaked, if you're on map 5 with high IATs it will reduce boost. In a turbocharged system the intake is quite irrelevant regarding how cool your IATs will be. The air goes into the intake, whether it be hot or cold, goes through the turbo where it heats up from the turbines, and then goes through your intercooler which is there to cool that air. It then travels through your charge pipe and into the engine.

That explains why melloww mentioned that rather a "cai" you would need a fmic for actual cooling function.

Cooling is crucial on turbo'd cars just as much as the "power mods".

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Dhillon92

Cooling is crucial on turbo'd cars just as much as the "power mods".

+1

Look at the new F80. BMW went nuts with the cooling with radiators everywhere and a liquid cooled FMIC. So for serious performance cooling is very important. The stock FMIC is a joke on the E-series Cars.

Mike

[Bours]

Originally Posted by Dhillon92

You will definitely need a fmic, even on a hot day the stock fmic will be heatsoaked, if you're on map 5 with high IATs it will reduce boost. In a turbocharged system the intake is quite irrelevant regarding how cool your IATs will be. The air goes into the intake, whether it be hot or cold, goes through the turbo where it heats up from the turbines, and then goes through your intercooler which is there to cool that air. It then travels through your charge pipe and into the engine.

That explains why melloww mentioned that rather a "cai" you would need a fmic for actual cooling function.

Cooling is crucial on turbo'd cars just as much as the "power mods".

ok thank you very much for the explanation now i understand i might have to get a nice AMS intercooler soon then. Summer here is like a preview of Hell loll

[snaimpally]

Intake is a waste of time and money - ask Darkhold - he runs the stock intake with Pure stage 2 etc.

FMIC is a better option. Also look at suspension upgrades (B12 Pro Kit or KW V1) plus M3 front control arms.