[ElliotMillais]

I'm going to give these a go from Euro Car parts but they list two sizes and im unsure which size is correct for my 08 e90 335i.
Any ideas?

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BM...5a7f75d&000027

http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/BM...42a574e&000027

Cheers
Elliot

[Aragorn30d]

AFAIK all 335i's got the larger 348mm disks. Quick check with a measuring tape would probably be a good idea though.

The 348's are 30mm thick, and the 330's are only 24mm thick so you can easily check the thickness thru the wheel without dismantling anything.

[old grey steve]

On a 335i I'd personally avoid using Pagid stuff, we get no end of drama's with them and have for the past year stopped using the stuff on BMW, Merc's and now VW, Audi.

Get the Euro price, speak to the main dealer as at the moment they are very aware of loss of revenue due to Euro's/GSF, there is margin in the brakes see how they compare

[ElliotMillais]

Cheers guys, i'll give the main dealer a call and see what the pricing is like. What issues have you seen with the Pagid discs and pads???

[Tim G]

I replaced my front pads with pagid from ECP recently. Iirc the pads were about £35 from ECP and about £100 from the dealer!

Its worth checking eBay as often ECP advertise the same parts on there cheaper than on their website.

[AlanYoro35i]

many members reported pagids are very noisy with the latest batch.

[JM85]

I had some Pagids on the rear last year, they warped within 2000 miles & gave shocking brake wabble!! Never again, shouod have gone OEM

Buy cheap buy twice

[JM85]

Originally Posted by Yoro35i

many members reported pagids are very noisy with the latest batch.

You've just reminded me the fronts squeeled like nothing I've ever heard before for approx 1000 miles & not just under braking all the time

[Jules59]

Just to add a counter view - Ive got Pagid disks all round but with OEM pads on rear and Tarox on the front.
Work very well, no squeals or wobbles - I dont drive like a granny either.

[Rich_D]

Originally Posted by Yoro35i

many members reported pagids are very noisy with the latest batch.

Mine were replaced by the previous owner just before I got the car and the squeek like mad at slow speeds

They work fine though, no warping or issues, just the low speed squeeling.

[JM85]

My rears were replaced with Mintex ones & they went rusty in a week so I'd avoid them, Pagids on the front have been OK regards rust & the squeal once they were bedded in

[Dan-danGT]

Genuine discs and pads are not expensive. About 100 ea disc and 80 for pads +vat well they was for me only 3 weeks ago

[Aragorn30d]

Last week I bought disks and pads for both ends, including new wear sensors, for just over 200quid all in.

So yes, genuine parts are stupidly expensive! I replaced all four corners for less money than just buying two disks from BMW.

[Dann]

Get in touch with Cotswolds or Harry Fairbairn as they give 15% discount on other forums on parts.

[Dan-danGT]

Originally Posted by Aragorn30d

Last week I bought disks and pads for both ends, including new wear sensors, for just over 200quid all in.

So yes, genuine parts are stupidly expensive! I replaced all four corners for less money than just buying two disks from BMW.

That's something I notice alot of people want a bmw as it makes you look cool. But can't afford decent parts. Buy cheap but twice. I see this a lot in my job and on here

[ElliotMillais]

I went for genuine ones in the end. I got it for £280 fitted. Cheers for the advice.

[Dan-danGT]

Originally Posted by ElliotMillais

I went for genuine ones in the end. I got it for £280 fitted. Cheers for the advice.

You wont go wrong with them, i figured i drive fast so need decent brakes and genuine have survived two track days. i see on here no end of people say " i bought pagid discs and pads and now i have a vibration" so i decided not to get cheap as i will end up doing it twice. each to there own but i dont see the point in owning such a nice car and using 'cheap' parts. I know people are going to say there OEM quality but i dont believe it as so many complain they have a vibration.

As another comparison i see our trucks can do numerous sets of pads to one set of discs. where as a local transport company use cheap discs and pads and they go through a set of pads to one set of discs.

[Aragorn30d]

Originally Posted by Dan-danGT

That's something I notice alot of people want a bmw as it makes you look cool. But can't afford decent parts. Buy cheap but twice. I see this a lot in my job and on here

I take a different view.

BMW dont manufacture brake parts.

They contract the work out to the big brake companies such as Ferodo/Jurid/Mintex/ATE etc etc who produce the parts for BMW. BMW then take those parts, put their sticker on the box and double the price.

So i dont see it as not being able to afford "decent parts", more spending money more wisely, by purchasing the same stuff significantly cheaper thru a different channel.

The same goes for things like balljoints and control arms, bearings, belts and loads of other parts, especially consumable stuff.

You can goto BMW and purchase a M3 lower front control arm for a few hundred quid, or you can buy the same arm from TRW directly, for 65. The difference? TRW boxed one has the M badge ground off, as its a BMW trademark and they're not allowed to sell it with that on it.


There is ofcourse cheap crap on the aftermarket as well, so you avoid those and your all good.

[Dann]

Agreed with the above.

I have no issues with people fitting Pagid or other brands to any car, even if it was something very prestigious or expensive.

Personally I'd rather they replaced bits with good OEM equivalent parts rather than wait and have to save for the Genuine parts.

Just be thankful we don't get charged M tax. I had to pay £240 for just the front discs that were on my E36 and that was trade price.

[Jules59]

Originally Posted by Aragorn30d

I take a different view.

BMW dont manufacture brake parts.

They contract the work out to the big brake companies such as Ferodo/Jurid/Mintex/ATE etc etc who produce the parts for BMW. BMW then take those parts, put their sticker on the box and double the price.

So i dont see it as not being able to afford "decent parts", more spending money more wisely, by purchasing the same stuff significantly cheaper thru a different channel.

The same goes for things like balljoints and control arms, bearings, belts and loads of other parts, especially consumable stuff.

You can goto BMW and purchase a M3 lower front control arm for a few hundred quid, or you can buy the same arm from TRW directly, for 65. The difference? TRW boxed one has the M badge ground off, as its a BMW trademark and they're not allowed to sell it with that on it.


There is ofcourse cheap crap on the aftermarket as well, so you avoid those and your all good.

Agree ++

They dont make engine oil either - so I buy my own oil and give it the dealer to use when its time for a dealer service

[bytejunkie]

Tescos don't make baked beans, but they do sell them. I know, I've bought them. Theyre significantly less tasty than Heinz baked beans. Thats because they pay Heinz less than it costs to make Heinz beans, so they use smaller beans, less mature, less tasty beans.

BMW don't make alloys. Ronal make alloys. BMW OEM alloys are shit, they crack for fun. Ronal alloys, not so much.

just cos pagid make for OEMS doesn't mean you get the same quality in their brake disk as you do from the dealer. Obviously this brakes in the example of the arm, because we can prove thats the same. but where there is the opportunity to make a little more on a disk thats not OEM by scrimping in the manufacturing process, then they will.

put the other way. AUDI will pay xxx for the development of their carbon/ceramic brake setup. you really think they're going to let pagid resell the kit much cheaper? no, they're going to embargo the hell out of it.

i don't care who buys what, but unless you're gonna material test the pagid and the BM pads and disks, you don't know they're the same.

[Aragorn30d]

As it happens, i dislike Heinz baked beans, they taste chemically and fake, as though they're trying too hard to make them flavoured. The supermarket own brands tend to be much more appealing to my tastebuds. But then taste is a personal thing thats difficult to quantify, rather than something like brake parts, which are easily measured, tested and compared to ensure they meet the relevant standards.


It goes both ways, If Textar are churning out thousands of brake pads for BMW, does it cost them less to simply rebadge the same part to sell thru their own distribution channels, or does it cost them less to completely reformulate the brake pad, and do a whole seperate production run for their own branded pads. Similarly, when BMW ordered the pads in the first place, does it cost them less to simply use Textars standard forumlation, or do they go to the additional expense of producing a special compound only for BMW use? IF its a special model, like the M3 or whatever, then sure, i'm sure they do go to that additional expense, but for their common standard models? Doubt it.


There are also the likes of ECE R90, which ensures any aftermarket pads are produced within a tolerance band of the original equipment, so they cant use bits of old training shoe and call it a brake pad for a 335d. Sure, you could buy cheap crappy pads that are right at the bottom end of the tolerance band and wear out in 5 minutes, but why would the big brand names want to tarnish their own reputation by producing shite? Stick to the decent companies and you wont have a problem.

I imagine if you did a bit of a survey round some independent BMW specialists, as to whether they used BMW branded brake parts, or a quality OEM supplier, you'll find most will be using an OEM.