[oldslowInCalgary]

I'm interested to take advantage of Black Friday savings.
Considering this FMIC: http://www.n54tuning.com/er-competit...5/335/535.html

It is for a 335IS. Any thoughts or input would help. thnx

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

What's your question? It's a great deal and all ER dealers are currently offering discounts for Black Friday. TGS included

[brewnami]

That's a really good price for that intercooler. There are still cheaper options, but ER build quality is top notch.

[bryce-o]

I have one for my 335is and I paid a lot more than that lol. It's a great intercooler, probably top 2 or 3 for this platform. I've previously had a 135i and a 335i e90 with a few different intercoolers on them (ETS 5", big tom, HPF 7") and the ER has the lowest IATs out of my experience.

[tc535i]

Smoking deal, love mine. Do it.

[musc]

Originally Posted by oldslowInCalgary

I'm interested to take advantage of Black Friday savings.
Considering this FMIC: http://www.n54tuning.com/er-competit...5/335/535.html

It is for a 335IS. Any thoughts or input would help. thnx

My friend has one on his 335is (with meth though) and loves it. Personally I prefer stepped design like the ATM/Helix for my 335is. With those crazy black Friday prices it would be hard to pass up a deal like that. Mike is great to work with too. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

[Sgop335]

That ams ic is even a better deal, great endcap design on those.

[Brule]

Good price.

Get it, you'll have one of the top performing intercoolers.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Depends on what you are looking for and your performance goals. Overall this intercooler is a very good choice, i have it on my own car

[oldslowInCalgary]

Originally Posted by Sgop335

That ams ic is even a better deal, great endcap design on those.

Better cause it's cheaper? The ER unit is heavily discounted...just wondering if that equates to a better design or just a gimmick?

thnx for all the input guys

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Not only in my opinion but in the real world the ER is a much better intercooler then AMS.

AMS is over-rated. Nothing against AMS as they make some good stuff but ER is a better performer on this platform.

If you want a great intercooler you can't go wrong with the ER, especially with their black friday pricing.

[oldslowInCalgary]

Thnx Jeff,
Got the wifes ok too

[acdHQK713K]

Too much money. Buy a used FMIC and save $400 and spend it on something else. No way this intercooler has twice the performance/build quality to justify the price.

BTW I have an ER FMIC and love it, but would never pay that much for it.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

Too much money. Buy a used FMIC and save $400 and spend it on something else. No way this intercooler has twice the performance/build quality to justify the price.

BTW I have an ER FMIC and love it, but would never pay that much for it.

I'd kindly disagree and surprised you would say that for someone who actually owns their product. Have you tried others and if so why are you still running the ER if ones half the price are just as good?

[acdHQK713K]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I'd kindly disagree and surprised you would say that for someone who actually owns their product. Have you tried others and if so why are you still running the ER if ones half the price are just as good?

I have not tried others.

I bought it used for much less than the listed price.

There is nothing revolutionary about the competition FMIC. Show me objective data that justifies the price difference and I will believe the hype.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by Stangorang

I have not tried others.

I bought it used for much less than the listed price.

There is nothing revolutionary about the competition FMIC. Show me objective data that justifies the price difference and I will believe the hype.

I typically don't respond to replies such as these but unless you can show objective data to prove otherwise yourself, I'm afraid we are at a standstill.

However, I will say this... you won't see me putting a $200-300 ebay intercooler on my car.

The quality of the core, welds and performance will vary from one intercooler to the other. If you've tried others and or have handled others this would be more obvious to you. The core is the bread and butter of any intercooler. Next comes frontal surface area, end tanks and the happy medium between pressure loss and flow plus overall weld quality and attention to detail.

Ask some other popular vendors what FMIC they run on their personal cars, I bet they aren't running ebay intercoolers.

[acdHQK713K]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I typically don't respond to replies such as these but unless you can show objective data to prove otherwise yourself, I'm afraid we are at a standstill.

However, I will say this... you won't see me putting a $200-300 ebay intercooler on my car.

The quality of the core, welds and performance will vary from one intercooler to the other. If you've tried others and or have handled others this would be more obvious to you. The core is the bread and butter of any intercooler. Next comes frontal surface area, end tanks and the happy medium between pressure loss and flow plus overall weld quality and attention to detail.

Ask some other popular vendors what FMIC they run on their personal cars, I bet they aren't running ebay intercoolers.

I wouldn't put an Ebay intercooler on my car either. But a used 5" ETS is a great option at about half the price of the ER. I forgot I actually owned an ETS FMIC about 4-5 years ago, and it was a very nice piece.

I agree there is a serious lack of objective data, which begs the question as to why you say the ER is a better "performer."

I am a proponent of buying parts that are historically reliable and at a good price. ETS, ER, Helix are some brands that come to mind. Whatever I could find in the for sale subforum is what I would buy. Unless the OP has specific needs such as maintaining the stock piping or the desire to avoid cutting anything.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Ask some other popular vendors what FMIC they run on their personal cars, I bet they aren't running ebay intercoolers.

I run Evolution Racewerks on my car now, used to run ETS 7". Both are amazing intercoolers
Keep in mind couple things
1- i live in Vegas (120 degrees during summer)
2- I track my car often
3- Its the shop's car so customers often test drive it to see the potential of their stock car if equipped with the right mods.

Op,
Before making any selection ask yourself couple questions.
Are you just looking for an upgrade over stock or do you plan on tracking the car often? What are your whp goals? What is your budget?

No matter what you do, dont get Ebay intercoolers. Most i have seen are worse than stock

[oldslowInCalgary]

upgrading over stock to take advantage of MHD custom flash.

[musc]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Not only in my opinion but in the real world the ER is a much better intercooler then AMS.

AMS is over-rated. Nothing against AMS as they make some good stuff but ER is a better performer on this platform.

If you want a great intercooler you can't go wrong with the ER, especially with their black friday pricing.

Agreed. Have a bunch of friends who are disappointed with the AMS. I expected more from that brand but I don't think BMW parts are a huge concern of theirs.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by oldslowInCalgary

upgrading over stock to take advantage of MHD custom flash.

What are your HP goals? Tracking the car often?
Stock turbos?

[oldslowInCalgary]

stock turbos but no tracking...hp goals? always wanting more!