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[pinoye90]

Don't buy these I purchased mine 6months ago never track my car, I only drive to work 10-15 min a day and sometimes going out on the weekends. Low and behold my whole right side front and rear are bent. This is from normal driving, no damage on the tires and normal potholes in Phoenix area. Called sonic tuning for warranty options and all I got was the run around. Sonic tuning said its wear tear/personal damage. wheel bent section marked with white chalk

[W37V]

[Bimmer-Bob]

Huh? The video you posted is about one type of low-quality counterfeit wheel versus the OE Mercedes version. It has nothing to do with aftermarket wheels in general...

[W37V]

Yes, but "cheap" wheels also tend to suffer from the same issue as counterfeit ones.

By cheap i do not necessarily mean price.

[mmmnot]

This is why you research a manufacture before you invest hundreds or thousands.

A quick 5 minute Google search of them shows little to nothing outside of Sonic Tuning.

But, going to their website is what really validates this company as a POS.

http://www.rennmotorsport.com/

General WordPress themed design that hasn't been updated in three years of launch.

First and last post: 2013. http://www.rennmotorsport.com/uncate...d/hello-world/

[Tim07e90]

Originally Posted by mmmnot

This is why you research a manufacture before you invest hundreds or thousands.

A quick 5 minute Google search of them shows little to nothing outside of Sonic Tuning.

But, going to their website is what really validates this company as a POS.

http://www.rennmotorsport.com/

General WordPress themed design that hasn't been updated in three years of launch.

First and last post: 2013. http://www.rennmotorsport.com/uncate...d/hello-world/

Couldn't have said it any better. I originally had CSL reps and got rid of them real quick and obtained Genuine 219m wheels which are made by BBS.

My fiancee is about to buy an X6 and I'm making sure we go with OEM or quality 20s.

[Bimmer-Bob]

Originally Posted by W37V

Yes, but "cheap" wheels also tend to suffer from the same issue as counterfeit ones.

By cheap i do not necessarily mean price.

Fair enough. I admit I have never heard of this brand, and would have stayed away from them myself. Quality aftermarket wheel manufacturers will have their wheels certified buy a recognized regulating body (TUV, etc.).

[Kgolf31]

Originally Posted by mmmnot

This is why you research a manufacture before you invest hundreds or thousands.

A quick 5 minute Google search of them shows little to nothing outside of Sonic Tuning.

But, going to their website is what really validates this company as a POS.

http://www.rennmotorsport.com/

General WordPress themed design that hasn't been updated in three years of launch.

First and last post: 2013. http://www.rennmotorsport.com/uncate...d/hello-world/

Their spacers are okay, lol

[mmmnot]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Their spacers are okay, lol

[pinoye90]

Originally Posted by mmmnot

This is why you research a manufacture before you invest hundreds or thousands.

A quick 5 minute Google search of them shows little to nothing outside of Sonic Tuning.

But, going to their website is what really validates this company as a POS.

http://www.rennmotorsport.com/

General WordPress themed design that hasn't been updated in three years of launch.

First and last post: 2013. http://www.rennmotorsport.com/uncate...d/hello-world/

I was reading article that these losers create new websites and new brand names but manufacture it from the same Chinese production facilities. Continuously scamming ppl.. What makes me more upset is that every time I called sonic tuning they have someone answer who can barely speak English WTF. At least if you own a business in the USA, HAVE SOMEONE ANSWER WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH..
Flow forged wheels should not be bending under normal driving conditions.. Anyone have recommendation to what I can do

A better business bureau?
B credit card company (it's only been 6 months)

[W37V]

BBB has no authority and can't force anything, especially if the company is not BBB member. But you could submit a complaint so they can rate the company.

Per regulations you have 60 days to file a credit card claim. Even thou you are over said period, you can try filing a claim with your bank. You never know - they might help you in getting your money back, or forcing the company to work with you. However don't get your hopes up or blame the bank if they turn you down.

If you do decide to file a claim, have your documents ready. Receipts, any records showing that your tried working with the merchant, any claims made by the company etc. Keep it specific to your case.

[mmmnot]

Originally Posted by W37V

BBB has no authority and can't force anything, especially if the company is not BBB member. But you could submit a complaint so they can rate the company.

Per regulations you have 60 days to file a credit card claim. Even thou you are over said period, you can try filing a claim with your bank. You never know - they might help you in getting your money back, or forcing the company to work with you. However don't get your hopes up or blame the bank if they turn you down.

If you do decide to file a claim, have your documents ready. Receipts, any records showing that your tried working with the merchant, any claims made by the company etc. Keep it specific to your case.

Yes. Exactly this. However, I had 90 days on my AMEX (it was over 120 days) I still filed and they covered me.

As said, have copies of documents, emails, emails sent and any other complaints you can find online.

[Keebs64]

Originally Posted by Kgolf31

Their spacers are okay, lol

The spacers are fine, but the bolts they ship with them are garbage. Mine rusted within the first week of install.

[Bimmer-Bob]

Did the wheels come with any kind of warranty the seller is not honoring? If not, I don't see how you can convince your CC company to do a chargeback, especially after 6-months of use. If no guarantee was explicitly offered, it seems kind of like "buyer beware" to me.

[W37V]

Originally Posted by mmmnot

.... and any other complaints you can find online.

Personally, I wouldn't submit these complaints unless they ask you for them. You are not fighting for everyone else. You are fighting for yourself. It might distract from the issue you are having and dilute your argument. So, keep your issue to the point, concise, and factual. Support your statements with proof as much as possible, but do not over include, as to distract from the main issue. (I hope this makes sense).

You can mention that you found complaints from people who had the same issue. You can ask if they are interested. But keep it separate and out of your claim. Otherwise, you can come across as a paranoid vengeful lunatic.

[El Cheapo Loco]

I follow below rule to avoid situations like this...

Do not buy anything made in China that:
1. Is worth more than US$20
2. Is edible
3. Can cause bodily harm if any part of it fails

[Abax335]

Being in Phoenix is what confuses me, didn't think you guys had road hazards down there that would cause a bent wheel outside of a curb. But the wheels that are OEM aren't much better,I have individual customers who have replaced 16-20 wheels over the course of a lease.

Now that I think about it I had one customer who had 4 bent wheels. Replaced all 4 and about a week later came back with 3 of the 4 wheels bent again.

That picture may not help since your alignment is way off and a good indication for us in the field that you definitely hit something with what looks like a 35 series side wall.

What ever you hit would have happened to any BMW wheel that uses that side wall.

[Bimmer-Bob]

Originally Posted by elcheapoloco

I follow below rule to avoid situations like this...

Do not buy anything made in China that:
1. Is worth more than US$20
2. Is edible
3. Can cause bodily harm if any part of it fails

It's very unlikely that you are successfully following Rule #1. Do you not own any electronics? An iPhone?

Speaking of iPhones, Apple products are generally very well made, despite being produced in China. Really, so much stuff is made in China that it's silly to think that it's all crap - there's a spectrum of quality, just like with every other country's industrial base. I think the issue here is a no-name brand that likely uses s manufacturer on the lower end of that spectrum.

[El Cheapo Loco]

Originally Posted by Bimmer-Bob

Do you not own any electronics? An iPhone?

Nope, no iphone. I don't own ANY apple product.

Originally Posted by Bimmer-Bob

it's silly to think that it's all crap

See here's the thing, they are not all crap but the regulations are so lax and people so unethical that you don't know who/what to trust. It's just safer/easier to treat them (products) all the same way.

[JDane07]

Originally Posted by elcheapoloco

Nope, no iphone. I don't own ANY apple product.



See here's the thing, they are not all crap but the regulations are so lax and people so unethical that you don't know who/what to trust. It's just safer/easier to treat them (products) all the same way.

Almost every phone manufacturer assembles their devices in China.
Even when Motorola bragged about their Moto X devices being assembled in the US a couple years ago... guess where the components were sourced? China.

I see no issue with this though. My current phone (Nexus 6P) is manufactured by Huawei (a Chinese company), and it is by far my favorite smartphone to date.

/tangent


Okay... where were we? Cars! That's right lol

[pinoye90]

Originally Posted by Abax335

Being in Phoenix is what confuses me, didn't think you guys had road hazards down there that would cause a bent wheel outside of a curb. But the wheels that are OEM aren't much better,I have individual customers who have replaced 16-20 wheels over the course of a lease.

Now that I think about it I had one customer who had 4 bent wheels. Replaced all 4 and about a week later came back with 3 of the 4 wheels bent again.

That picture may not help since your alignment is way off and a good indication for us in the field that you definitely hit something with what looks like a 35 series side wall.

What ever you hit would have happened to any BMW wheel that uses that side wall.

Yeah you would think with a 35 series yes but I'm 35 with 2 kids in the back seat. I would notice if I ever hit a big enough bump that would cause the damage. The picture was on a balance machine because I went to discount tire to have them balance due to minor intermittent vibrations. Then the guys told me the wheels were bent, FML. I was wondering if I did hit a bump/pothole that would cause this type of damage then it would show on the tire d as well or leave a scratch/damage on the wheel paint etc?, weird.. Then upon research on google I'm not the only one with bent Renn Motorsport wheels who don't track there car, bingo...

[pinoye90]

I'm just angry cause I've been screwed over so many time just on wheels alone. I'm also partially to blame myself for not researching more. First was with wheeldude then with sonic tuning. Well, no more next time I'm sticking to oem. What's funny is I have friends who have HRE, BBS, etc AND WHEN THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN THEY CALL THE COMPANY THEY PURCHASED IT FROM AND THEY'RE TAKEN CARED OFF RIGHT AWAY, FML.. Thanks fellas for the input..