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      02-13-2016, 01:20 PM   #1
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help: I wanna blow my turbos

I'm serious haha
I have a jb4 sitting in the garage, currently running mhd stg1 +fmic
my warranty has like 10k miles left I want those things beat

I heard Buraq and Kencan do the job ? any other idea's

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Put e30 in the tank. Ask wedge for a turbo killer tune lol.
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Take off the oil lines, they'll fry real quick

But in all seriousness, I don't think you have the supporting mods to run enough boost to wear them out in under 10k miles. People have run them up to 22-24psi and they were still kicking lol cutting of their oil or coolant would do the trick though
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Take off the oil lines, they'll fry real quick

But in all seriousness, I don't think you have the supporting mods to run enough boost to wear them out in under 10k miles. People have run them up to 22-24psi and they were still kicking lol cutting of their oil or coolant would do the trick though
Im hitting 22psi no problem lol. No issues at all
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Im hitting 22psi no problem lol. No issues at all
my point exactly lol I don't think OP will be able to push his turbos to the max
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Take off the oil lines, they'll fry real quick

But in all seriousness, I don't think you have the supporting mods to run enough boost to wear them out in under 10k miles. People have run them up to 22-24psi and they were still kicking lol cutting of their oil or coolant would do the trick though
pushing 21 psi
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Take the vacuum lines off of the solenoid a and T them together. Then on the long side of the T use a vacuum to shut them closed . Hold them closed by shoving a golf T or end cap. Go drive around until you blow your motor.....errrr...your turbos.
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in b4 didn't work and had to pay for turbos out of pocket
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That would be HILARIOUS, if OP tries so hard to blow his turbos before his warranty ends but fails.

Then he's just left with some worn down turbos and no warranty HAHAHAHA !!!#bmwNAwins


And yeah just pushing 21PSI won't blow ur turbos, people are running that all day for like 100k miles lol
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Despite the many requests of people wanting to try to blow their turbos we have failed every time. We pushed the damn things to 34+ PSI and they still wont blow. People started having tranny issues first and just gave up trying to blow them.

On E70 I push mine to 25 PSI in hot summer Florida

So they are not easy to blow. If you really want to blow them then throw some beebees down the turbo inlets , oh nvm that you'll frack up the motor also

You'll have better success trying to blow your turbos with a JB4 since it uses significantly more dutycycle than a flash only tune to produce boost.

1) Turbos can blow if its running excessively outside its compression range while "forcing" more dutycyle . The BMW DME does a good job protecting the turbos from this. Well not when your fooling the DME making it think its running a load its not.

2) Running too lean will increase EGT that can start to melt things

3) Injector failure can cause turbos to blow, and has blown turbos, which leans out that bank, EGT sky rockets, and then pop

In most cases its mostly EGT that blows turbos due to an injector failing. So hears how you can easily blow your turbos and perhaps not the engine along with it. Throw a JB4 on, put 89 octane and target 100% dutycyle, and target 14.7 AFR throughout the entire RPM band. You don't need us for that

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Disconnect oil lines and loop them?
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That would be HILARIOUS, if OP tries so hard to blow his turbos before his warranty ends but fails.
It has happened, ask MMP he's not the only though, we've had a dozen of these requests.
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The only safe way would be to disconnect the oil lines.

Just remember that the extended turbo warranty only covers wastegate-related failures.
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Despite the many requests of people wanting to try to blow their turbos we have failed every time. We pushed the damn things to 34+ PSI and they still wont blow. People started having tranny issues first and just gave up trying to blow them.

On E70 I push mine to 25 PSI in hot summer Florida

So they are not easy to blow. If you really want to blow them then throw some beebees down the turbo inlets , oh nvm that you'll frack up the motor also

You'll have better success trying to blow your turbos with a JB4 since it uses significantly more dutycycle than a flash only tune to produce boost.

1) Turbos can blow if its running excessively outside its compression range while "forcing" more dutycyle . The BMW DME does a good job protecting the turbos from this. Well not when your fooling the DME making it think its running a load its not.

2) Running too lean will increase EGT that can start to melt things

3) Injector failure can cause turbos to blow, and has blown turbos, which leans out that bank, EGT sky rockets, and then pop

In most cases its mostly EGT that blows turbos due to an injector failing. So hears how you can easily blow your turbos and perhaps not the engine along with it. Throw a JB4 on, put 89 octane and target 100% dutycyle, and target 14.7 AFR throughout the entire RPM band. You don't need us for that


Thanks buraq, I've a jb4 I'lltry that but I was also rthinking of inducinga leak, not big enough to cause 30ff but keep turbos going, i paid for extended warranty and esp got turbo package added,

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The only safe way would be to disconnect the oil lines.

Just remember that the extended turbo warranty only covers wastegate-related failures.
That' a good point, not to mention BMW NA now reads forums to void warranties. JK but I guess they could...
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Despite the many requests of people wanting to try to blow their turbos we have failed every time. We pushed the damn things to 34+ PSI and they still wont blow. People started having tranny issues first and just gave up trying to blow them.

On E70 I push mine to 25 PSI in hot summer Florida

So they are not easy to blow. If you really want to blow them then throw some beebees down the turbo inlets , oh nvm that you'll frack up the motor also

You'll have better success trying to blow your turbos with a JB4 since it uses significantly more dutycycle than a flash only tune to produce boost.

1) Turbos can blow if its running excessively outside its compression range while "forcing" more dutycyle . The BMW DME does a good job protecting the turbos from this. Well not when your fooling the DME making it think its running a load its not.

2) Running too lean will increase EGT that can start to melt things

3) Injector failure can cause turbos to blow, and has blown turbos, which leans out that bank, EGT sky rockets, and then pop

In most cases its mostly EGT that blows turbos due to an injector failing. So hears how you can easily blow your turbos and perhaps not the engine along with it. Throw a JB4 on, put 89 octane and target 100% dutycyle, and target 14.7 AFR throughout the entire RPM band. You don't need us for that
Did you really pushed the stock snails all the way up to 34PSI or it was a joke?
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lol and people wonder why BMW is cutting what warranty covers.
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lol and people wonder why BMW is cutting what warranty covers.
I agree. This directly affects the cost of the car/the level of warranty we get. It's one thing if the turbos are already starting to rattle but not bad enough to warrant replacement. I think it's another thing to intentionally blow up good turbos.
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OP- Ask Vargas how he makes his turbos blow so quickly, and do that.
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Did you really pushed the stock snails all the way up to 34PSI or it was a joke?
Based on request, willing consent, for R&D purposes for developing his new Inlets which currently exist now, yes
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Man just work some overtime and buy ur own damn turbos.


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