Dyno

russjonesr · 03-15-2016, 12:22 PM

Just had my car on the Dyno....very pleased with the results. It surprised the guys who were doing it...first run which ironically was the best he deleted as he thought it was spinning because of the figures it was throwing out

I ran it safe with a 50 adder...happy with 510 hp

RajB · 03-15-2016, 12:29 PM

Impressive buddy.

Who did you use?

imy · 03-15-2016, 12:51 PM

that is sweet as a nut!

russjonesr · 03-15-2016, 01:03 PM

Used Performance Torque over your neck of the woods Raj...its interesting he said he thought his dyno was a "heart breaker" ....463whp so they are calculating a 10% loss in drivetrian to get to a 510bhp.

Lawton438 · 03-15-2016, 01:07 PM

I always though it was more like 15-18% on our cars for losses

Lawton438 · 03-15-2016, 01:08 PM

What mods you running mate? Seems like a decent motor

RajB · 03-15-2016, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by russjonesr

Used Performance Torque over your neck of the woods Raj...its interesting he said he thought his dyno was a "heart breaker" ....463whp so they are calculating a 10% loss in drivetrian to get to a 510bhp.

Ah yeah over Wombourne way. Might have to pop down there to see how mines pulling. How much out of interest buddy?

RajB · 03-15-2016, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawton438

What mods you running mate? Seems like a decent motor

Check out his sig. FBO'd truly.

Lawton438 · 03-15-2016, 06:21 PM

On my phone mate so doesn't show his
Sig unfortunately.

russjonesr · 03-15-2016, 06:36 PM

Just got the reply from trebila...basically saying the dyno operator needed to apply more dyno brake as revs were too quick so didn't build expected boost...also he mentioned that he had hit the rev limiter.

I must admit I do find this slightly disappointing...

Cerbera9 · 03-15-2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by russjonesr

Just got the reply from trebila...basically saying the dyno operator needed to apply more dyno brake as revs were too quick so didn't build expected boost...also he mentioned that he had hit the rev limiter.

I must admit I do find this slightly disappointing...

How do you think this effects your results?

TBH I think the results look pretty good.
What make of dyno was this as most people in the UK seem to use a Dyno Dynamics Rollers which helps comparisons?

russjonesr · 03-16-2016, 04:23 AM

Looking at the logs it was targeting 22 but only hitting 19...a road run I see a peek of 23 tapering to 20. That's a potential 30hp or more?
It was a Dynocom 2400 HP AWD.

windymissile · 03-16-2016, 04:31 AM

Do you have a upgraded map sensor?

WM

Cerbera9 · 03-16-2016, 04:37 AM

Which JB4 map were you using?

russjonesr · 03-16-2016, 07:01 AM

Yes WM have the n20 tmap sensor.

Ran map3 at 50 adder...

RajB · 03-16-2016, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by russjonesr

Just got the reply from trebila...basically saying the dyno operator needed to apply more dyno brake as revs were too quick so didn't build expected boost...also he mentioned that he had hit the rev limiter.

I must admit I do find this slightly disappointing...

Ah ok so might not give them a go then lol

russjonesr · 03-16-2016, 10:46 AM

Ha! Sorry Raj!

Don't think i 'm going to waste anymore time and money on dyno's

RajB · 03-16-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by russjonesr

Ha! Sorry Raj!

Don't think i 'm going to waste anymore time and money on dyno's

I did try mine at surrey rolling road last year but as it threw up the bloody 30FF didn't get a clean run so I'd love to get it on at some point just to see. Only issue is I still get the 30FF on odd occasions and randomly so it's difficult to diagnose.

russjonesr · 03-16-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lawton438

I always though it was more like 15-18% on our cars for losses

Apologies Lawton438 missed this...yes I thought that to...but they did a "run down" and that what they estimated.

I'm not too bothered...the car is somewhere between 500-550 hp which is where is should be so I'm happy

AWSAWS · 03-17-2016, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by russjonesr

Apologies Lawton438 missed this...yes I thought that to...but they did a "run down" and that what they estimated.

I'm not too bothered...the car is somewhere between 500-550 hp which is where is should be so I'm happy

I've heard the places that use this drag back method aren't great. Reason being that a transmission under load will have different drag characteristics to one not under load.

Anyway, you know your car is powerful Russ. I mean what were you doing boost wise? A bit north of 20 PSI.

I looked on N54 for the revised meth add boost targets but I can't find them anymore. My car on 40 add and stock turbos feels fast as f***.

abeardo83 · 03-17-2016, 07:15 AM

500+ BHP!!!! Now THAT's a monster!!!!

russjonesr · 03-19-2016, 12:17 PM

Ironically Jack on the run under 20 psi...on the road I see 23 with spot on timing so I think its another 20-30hp could have been seen if the dyno was setup right!

03-15-2016, 12:22 PM	#1
russjonesr First Lieutenant 26 Rep 308 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Shrewsbury iTrader: (0)	Dyno Just had my car on the Dyno....very pleased with the results. It surprised the guys who were doing it...first run which ironically was the best he deleted as he thought it was spinning because of the figures it was throwing out I ran it safe with a 50 adder...happy with 510 hp Attached Images __________________ Jb4 with Trebila BEF,vargas stage 2+ turbos, vrsf dp's, vrsf cp with tial bov, vrfs 7" fmic, EOS PI with BMS PI controller, RB Inlets and Outlets, bms meth kit, BMS DCI, miltek cat back, bms occ,3.5 tmap, ngk 5992 plugs, HSD coilovers, M3 rear subframe, diff, drive shafts , suspension and brakes.
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russjonesr First Lieutenant 26 Rep 308 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Shrewsbury iTrader: (0)	Used Performance Torque over your neck of the woods Raj...its interesting he said he thought his dyno was a "heart breaker" ....463whp so they are calculating a 10% loss in drivetrian to get to a 510bhp. __________________ Jb4 with Trebila BEF,vargas stage 2+ turbos, vrsf dp's, vrsf cp with tial bov, vrfs 7" fmic, EOS PI with BMS PI controller, RB Inlets and Outlets, bms meth kit, BMS DCI, miltek cat back, bms occ,3.5 tmap, ngk 5992 plugs, HSD coilovers, M3 rear subframe, diff, drive shafts , suspension and brakes.
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Lawton438 First Lieutenant 45 Rep 393 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Stoke on trent iTrader: (2)	On my phone mate so doesn't show his Sig unfortunately.
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russjonesr First Lieutenant 26 Rep 308 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Shrewsbury iTrader: (0)	Just got the reply from trebila...basically saying the dyno operator needed to apply more dyno brake as revs were too quick so didn't build expected boost...also he mentioned that he had hit the rev limiter. I must admit I do find this slightly disappointing... __________________ Jb4 with Trebila BEF,vargas stage 2+ turbos, vrsf dp's, vrsf cp with tial bov, vrfs 7" fmic, EOS PI with BMS PI controller, RB Inlets and Outlets, bms meth kit, BMS DCI, miltek cat back, bms occ,3.5 tmap, ngk 5992 plugs, HSD coilovers, M3 rear subframe, diff, drive shafts , suspension and brakes.
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russjonesr First Lieutenant 26 Rep 308 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Shrewsbury iTrader: (0)	Looking at the logs it was targeting 22 but only hitting 19...a road run I see a peek of 23 tapering to 20. That's a potential 30hp or more? It was a Dynocom 2400 HP AWD.
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russjonesr First Lieutenant 26 Rep 308 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Shrewsbury iTrader: (0)	Yes WM have the n20 tmap sensor. Ran map3 at 50 adder...
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russjonesr First Lieutenant 26 Rep 308 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Shrewsbury iTrader: (0)	Ha! Sorry Raj! Don't think i 'm going to waste anymore time and money on dyno's
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russjonesr First Lieutenant 26 Rep 308 Posts Drives: BMW E92 335i Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Shrewsbury iTrader: (0)	Ironically Jack on the run under 20 psi...on the road I see 23 with spot on timing so I think its another 20-30hp could have been seen if the dyno was setup right! __________________ Jb4 with Trebila BEF,vargas stage 2+ turbos, vrsf dp's, vrsf cp with tial bov, vrfs 7" fmic, EOS PI with BMS PI controller, RB Inlets and Outlets, bms meth kit, BMS DCI, miltek cat back, bms occ,3.5 tmap, ngk 5992 plugs, HSD coilovers, M3 rear subframe, diff, drive shafts , suspension and brakes.
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