[M.a.r.k.u.s]

I yanked out my jb4 in anger yesterday after it had started with the water pump staying on issue (only thought it happened with an OCC, which I don't have) and it completely drained my battery, making me miss a meeting.

I know that is a fairly easy fix but since I've had the PS2, I've been running it with the pump gas BEF and with that enabled, it's throw that random check engine light because that BMS can't fix in their BEF. All minor annoyances but enough for me to finally decide to get a pump gas protuned map that I can flash, not have any issues with and have the best performance given my mods all the time.

I've reached out to Dzenno but they recently upped their price to $349, which I feel is a bit much for a pump gas flash, considering a lot of people offer them for less. On the other hand, I've never heard a bad review about his work, so maybe it's worth it.

Any other suggestions on who to go with?

[mike@x-ph.com]

WedgePerformance

[puppydax]

+1 Wedge.

[CantCatchMe]

Wedge without a doubt!

[snaimpally]

I think one of the guys from PTF went to Motiv. I know Motiv offers tuning for the N54 for $249. Ask if they do N55.

You can also check Cobb's website for tuners in your area.

[M.a.r.k.u.s]

Thanks for all the responses! I've reached out to wedge. We'll see what happens

[Johnny Boost]

Sorry to hear about your jb4 problems. I think you'll like the pro tune!

[stari335]

Oh yea good luck with anyone else on the N55 doing flash only. Overboosting, codes, running rich, backfires, random dropouts in timing just a pure pita to deal with. I am yet to see anything solid from anyone else out there but dudes at ptf tbh jb is ok but with a custom backend its much better. Bms backend has issues, search.

[Nugget]

Are you guys serious about Wedge?
I've only heard bad things about him.

Go with Dzenno.
He made a decent pump gas flash for me, wasn't so good with ethanol.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Nugget

Are you guys serious about Wedge?
I've only heard bad things about him.

Go with Dzenno.
He made a decent pump gas flash for me, wasn't so good with ethanol.

Have you dealt with Wedge ... You would be surprised that he is a very nice guy and a great tuner

[stari335]

N54 is nothing to tune like the N55 bro. N55 is far more complicated. As for Wedge its all N54 related and as many nice things yiu may have heard there are just as many not so nice and some horror stories from people out there on facebook and other online communities.

[olivojoe]

I can only speak for Dzenno and PTF, as that is all I have dealt with and I will not say anything negative about other pro-tuners, but you will not be disappointed with PTF. Very responsive, competent, and patient. The reason for the price is the amount of work required to dial in a tune on the N55. I went through about 25 revisions before my pump 93 tune was stable. I also paid the extra and got the E50 tune, and if you have access to the E85, I HIGHLY recommend going that route. Even just on a stock LPFP the difference is amazing.

Stari335 is dead right, the N55 is a lot more finicky than the N54, so that is likely the reason for the price increase. I do think he gives a discount for forum members so ask about that too.

Good Luck!

[CantCatchMe]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Have you dealt with Wedge ... You would be surprised that he is a very nice guy and a great tuner

People seem to always "hear" but don't know by experience. He's a very good tuner. I ran their E50 protune and it was very strong

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by stari335

N54 is nothing to tune like the N55 bro. N55 is far more complicated. As for Wedge its all N54 related and as many nice things yiu may have heard there are just as many not so nice and some horror stories from people out there on facebook and other online communities.

A majority of these haters likely didn't even use Wedge. They are just catering to someone else that is tuner and therefore following the bandwagon of hating on Wedge. Just like some people are anti JB4 or Cobb or MHD or PROcede.

Many people hated on the PROcede cause they didn't favor Shiv. Truth be told PROcede is actually the best hardware for a piggyback system. But now I'm getting off on a tangent.

It happens in all platforms with regards to tuners/vendors/companies and sometimes comes down to a popularity contest and/or people regurgitating false truths.

Remember there are 3 sides to every story.

Wedge tuned my vehicle no problem and he's a great guy to work with.

That being said, people should boast information that comes from personal experience, not something regurgitated because they read something a hater said. Usually that hater has an alternative agenda.

[houtan]

Probably true.

Op, I can tell you I have used both ptf and wedge for the n55 and if I were you, I wouldn't give a dime to wedge. The most important thing to keep in mind, irrespective of the tune, is that wedge does this work as a side job vs ptf who is an actual company and does this 100% of the time.

There is a pure stage 2 thread in this forum that you can easily relate to. Go with PTF and ask for dzenno.

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

A majority of these haters likely didn't even use Wedge. They are just catering to someone else that is tuner and therefore following the bandwagon of hating on Wedge. Just like some people are anti JB4 or Cobb or MHD or PROcede.

Many people hated on the PROcede cause they didn't favor Shiv. Truth be told PROcede is actually the best hardware for a piggyback system. But now I'm getting off on a tangent.

It happens in all platforms with regards to tuners/vendors/companies and sometimes comes down to a popularity contest and/or people regurgitating false truths.

Remember there are 3 sides to every story.

Wedge tuned my vehicle no problem and he's a great guy to work with.

That being said, people should boast information that comes from personal experience, not something regurgitated because they read something a hater said. Usually that hater has an alternative agenda.

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

Originally Posted by houtan

Probably true.

Op, I can tell you I have used both ptf and wedge for the n55 and if I were you, I wouldn't give a dime to wedge. The most important thing to keep in mind, irrespective of the tune, is that wedge does this work as a side job vs ptf who is an actual company and does this 100% of the time.

There is a pure stage 2 thread in this forum that you can easily relate to. Go with PTF and ask for dzenno.

Was the reason you said you wouldn't give a dime to Wedge because he does this on the side? If so, I'm not sure why that should go against someone making a living? Was there another reason that wasn't mentioned? Just trying to gauge why people say somethings sometimes. I'd never judge someone for making an honest living personally whether its their primary or secondary income.

For the record I have no problem with PTF either; But, I have no direct tuning experience with them to recommend them.

I do have direct experience with Wedge which is why I feel my opinion is appropriate. Even though I'm a vendor, there is no kickback for me to mention Wedge (for the record).

[joshe92]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Was the reason you said you wouldn't give a dime to Wedge because he does this on the side? If so, I'm not sure why that should go against someone making a living? Was there another reason that wasn't mentioned? Just trying to gauge why people say somethings sometimes. I'd never judge someone for making an honest living personally whether its their primary or secondary income.

For the record I have no problem with PTF either; But, I have no direct tuning experience with them to recommend them.

I do have direct experience with Wedge which is why I feel my opinion is appropriate. Even though I'm a vendor, there is no kickback for me to mention Wedge (for the record).

I might get a protune from Wedge in the future. I don't know much about PTF, but I can take Jeff's word for it

I am a stage 2+ cobb tune with fmic, fbo

[puppydax]

I don't know how people have negative things to say about Wedge. For tuning being a secondary deal for him, he sure does respond quickly to any questions or concerns.

To touch on Jeff's comment, why is it a bad thing that he does it on the side? Does it make him less knowledgeable or less dedicated to do tuning on the side? My dealings with Wedge have been amazing. Great guy to chat with and is pretty much always available on top of having a full time job and being a full time Dad. Chill lol.

[CantCatchMe]

Originally Posted by puppydax

I don't know how people have negative things to say about Wedge. For tuning being a secondary deal for him, he sure does respond quickly to any questions or concerns.

To touch on Jeff's comment, why is it a bad thing that he does it on the side? Does it make him less knowledgeable or less dedicated to do tuning on the side? My dealings with Wedge have been amazing. Great guy to chat with and is pretty much always available on top of having a full time job and being a full time Dad. Chill lol.

His reasoning is probably the credibility part against Wedge, but that is silly if you ask me. I don't care who you are but if you have a good reputation and great customer service I'm going to that person whether it's a vendor or tuner.

[puppydax]

Originally Posted by CantCatchMe

His reasoning is probably the credibility part against Wedge, but that is silly if you ask me. I don't care who you are but if you have a good reputation and great customer service I'm going to that person whether it's a vendor or tuner.

, don't get it lol. Unless he had a tune from Wedge and something horrific happened, hard to take it as a valid point.

[stari335]

Well the only way to know is to get some wedge tuned n55 guys in here and let them talk. I know for a fact the n55s he tuned didn't work out well and had issues as I talked to these guys here and over emails. Talk is cheap though and it seems I have something against him but I really don't how could I or why. Just sharing what I've seen from people's experiences I talked to. As mentioned this is N55 and N54 is a whole different ballgame. N54 tuners are dime a dozen these days everyone is a tuner as its dead easy to tune especially stock turbo stuff out there.

[houtan]

I say that because in my experience, doing the business on the side was an excuse for not being able to respond in a timely matter and not remembering what modifications i had on my car. When it's your side business, it is not your #1 priority and your regular job and family time (completely understandable) come in the way. May not of been an issue for you, but it was for me, so it is 100% a valid reason. Further more, when it is your sole source of income, there is much more at risk vice a "side business".

E-tunes take time on the user side to go out and grab data. The etune process should be structured to build on the prior tune to progress towards a final tune for your car. I received tunes with seemingly random adjustments, which was made clear to me when after a couple of unsuccessful revisions I received an email asking me what mods I had on my car. Are you shitting me? You are sending me tunes without taking two seconds to look at what car you are tuning? Because your regular job has you so busy so you don't have time to keep track of the mods on the car you are tuning? Sorry, not a valid reason.

Don't even get me started on the fact that i was wasting my own time to go and grab the logs for a tune without thought on what was being adjusted.

And to be clear, i am talking N55. you guys with positive experience appear to have N54s, and they are different tuning wise.

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

Was the reason you said you wouldn't give a dime to Wedge because he does this on the side? If so, I'm not sure why that should go against someone making a living? Was there another reason that wasn't mentioned? Just trying to gauge why people say somethings sometimes. I'd never judge someone for making an honest living personally whether its their primary or secondary income.

For the record I have no problem with PTF either; But, I have no direct tuning experience with them to recommend them.

I do have direct experience with Wedge which is why I feel my opinion is appropriate. Even though I'm a vendor, there is no kickback for me to mention Wedge (for the record).