[daytonadave]

So, I filled up with Chevron diesel, or so I thought. Apparently the suppliers driver filled the Stations diesel tank with gas. 150 miles later, no/go. BMW says change out EVERYTHING. The tab is already so high my insurance is considering totaling . This seems a little excessive . I do NOT want to lose this car. Has anyone else gone through this?

[Nadir Point]

The only things really "needing" changed are the pumps and injectors. The lift pump might be OK. Tell them to pressure test it and keep it if good.

Engine oil needs "changed" as well. Should be taken for granted, but you never know...

[shnaggs]

If it's anything like the tdi's, when they get gasoline in their systems, it puts tiny metal shavings through the fuel system. So that includes injectors, rail, hp pump, LP pump, lines and fuel tank. That would probably be over $10k as a wild guess

[335dsleeper]

Originally Posted by daytonadave

So, I filled up with Chevron diesel, or so I thought. Apparently the suppliers driver filled the Stations diesel tank with gas. 150 miles later, no/go. BMW says change out EVERYTHING. The tab is already so high my insurance is considering totaling . This seems a little excessive . I do NOT want to lose this car. Has anyone else gone through this?

Yikes. I can't believe it made it that far.

I say total it and buy it back.

[Nadir Point]

Originally Posted by shnaggs

If it's anything like the tdi's, when they get gasoline in their systems, it puts tiny metal shavings through the fuel system. So that includes injectors, rail, hp pump, LP pump, lines and fuel tank. That would probably be over $10k as a wild guess

Doing a piecemeal approach to save $ is an option that would include flushing the entire system while it's apart. But it's risky and could entail a complete new everything anyway. You just don't know what you have on you hands with this scenario until it's all taken apart, inspected and tested.

[daytonadave]

Originally Posted by UberArchetype

The only things really "needing" changed are the pumps and injectors. The lift pump might be OK. Tell them to pressure test it and keep it if good.

Engine oil needs "changed" as well. Should be taken for granted, but you never know...

This is what my diesel guy thought as well, until he talked to BMW. They told him the clean diesel system requires much more. Damn

[daytonadave]

Originally Posted by supernoob

Thoughts of suing chevron for enough to buy a couple more d's plus more in pain and suffering run through my head.

2011 model 335d's sold in America total just over 7000. Making the car a very rare piece in a population of 318 million ppl.

I hope your car gets fixed.

I'm tempted to get a shyster, I mean lawyer. This really pisses me off. The ecu was scheduled in BPC today for the alphabet delete with good times to come soon there after.

[Nadir Point]

It's fairly common industry practice to replace the entire fuel system lock, stock and barrel after catastrophic injection pump failure in a commonrail system. It's the only way to guarantee a good outcome. Other options really just depend on how money factors into it.

[daytonadave]

Originally Posted by supernoob

Thoughts of suing chevron for enough to buy a couple more d's plus more in pain and suffering run through my head.

2011 model 335d's sold in America total just over 7000. Making the car a very rare piece in a population of 318 million ppl.

I hope your car gets fixed.

Plus, it's a Le Mans blue m sport.....

[daytonadave]

Originally Posted by UberArchetype

It's fairly common industry practice to replace the entire fuel system lock, stock and barrel after catastrophic injection pump failure in a commonrail system. It's the only way to guarantee a good outcome. Other options really just depend on how money factors into it.

The only money factor is when insurance decides to total. (Not desirable )

[335D Alpha Pappa]

This should be covered by the station owner's insurance and the delivery company. You should not have to pay any out of pocket expenses to repair this. I am sure you are not the only diesel vehicle to have this problem. If they do not offer to cover it, get a lawyer and take them to small claims court if it is under $10k.

[daytonadave]

Originally Posted by 335D Alpha Pappa

This should be covered by the station owner's insurance and the delivery company. You should not have to pay any out of pocket expenses to repair this. I am sure you are not the only diesel vehicle to have this problem. If they do not offer to cover it, get a lawyer and take them to small claims court if it is under $10k.

Yeah, they are going to cover, but I'm wary of them trying to go cheap.

[Hoooper]

Originally Posted by daytonadave

This is what my diesel guy thought as well, until he talked to BMW. They told him the clean diesel system requires much more. Damn

Doesnt make any sense. DPF and urea injection system are the only real difference between a modern non-emissions common rail diesel and a "clean" one and neither should really need to be replaced after a misfuel. Maybe they detected damage to the dpf/doc due to getting so far on the tank.

Originally Posted by 335dsleeper

Yikes. I can't believe it made it that far.

Since they filled what *was* the diesel tank in the ground it was likely a mixture of diesel and gas, if the tank was fairly full when they filled it and the tank in the car wasnt completely empty when filled it could still be a fairly high % diesel mix in the tank. Check out the video below starting at 4:00, its obviously an old style diesel motor but it makes the point that a diesel can actually run on gas and survive for a bit, so obviously the higher the diesel portion of the mix the further youll make it. Unfortunately, making it further isnt necessarily a good thing.

[Yozh]

Originally Posted by 335D Alpha Pappa

This should be covered by the station owner's insurance and the delivery company. You should not have to pay any out of pocket expenses to repair this. I am sure you are not the only diesel vehicle to have this problem. If they do not offer to cover it, get a lawyer and take them to small claims court if it is under $10k.

^^^ That. This is what you and others who had a misfortune to fill-up at this station should do. Sorry to hear about this. I would have never imagined this kind of a dumb-ass thing could happen. Let BMW fix it all and have their insurance pay for whatever it will cost.

[petey_highboost]

And a lemans blue m-sport.. Sorry to hear :/

[rulonger]

Originally Posted by daytonadave

Plus, it's a Le Mans blue m sport.....

Which makes it even worse. What a beautiful car the E90 m-sport is in Le Mans Blue.

Good luck with getting everything sorted.

[BB_cuda]

Never heard of this before(gas put into diesel station tank). That said, this is my first diesel. Veteran's of diesel might have read this type of thing on other boards. This appears to be first time here. I've only been around here since Nov 2011 though.

Seems to me that the station owner could turn around and blame delivery truck. The trucks aren't necessarily (Chevron in this case) employees of same company. It could be trucker from local terminal. Only difference from load to load (Chevron versus say Shell) is the additive package that is added into tanker truck.

So here is a weird twist to ponder. Was the mistake at the terminal or at the station? Did the tanker driver mean to load diesel or gasoline at the terminal OR did the tanker driver consciously put gasoline in at terminal and then screwed the pooch and didn't put it into the gasoline tank at the station? I have a close friend that has worked for Chevron for better than 20 years and is connected to fuels provided to stations. I'm curious if anti-misfueling hardware is used at terminals and tankers like we have on station pump nozzles and "little door" on our cars. It would mean that a tanker is a diesel only or a gasoline only. I'm betting that the "put it in at the station" part is generic diameters though. I will ask my friend.

[DSB335d]

When I worked for VW there were several occasions porters would go fill up diesel vehicles with gas by mistake. Granted these cars never went 150 miles before dying. A technician would gain access to the fuel tank and use an electric pump to pump out as much gasoline as possible, put about 5-10 gallons of diesel back in, and replace the fuel filter. They would start after that, and they would leave them running outside for a while. The service manager or a technician would go top it off with more diesel and the sales people would put them right back on the sales lot... Those diesels weren't as sophisticated as a 335d though.

[Dazza335iC]

Ouch OP, sorry to hear Shitty luck I guess, but hopefully everything gets fixed by insurance and you're not out any $ in the end.

[MightyMouseTech]

When I worked in Northern Canada, we would always dump a couple litres of gas in when filling up the diesels to prevent the fuel from jelling. Never seemed to hurt them.

[335dlci]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

When I worked in Northern Canada, we would always dump a couple litres of gas in when filling up the diesels to prevent the fuel from jelling. Never seemed to hurt them.

And I'm assuming this was a huge rig? Just like people do oil changes in the Artic with the engine running?

[dixy2k]

The good part is that you will make Chevron pay for the repairs on your car.