[tmo24]

Sorry, this will be a little long. I've been searching for a couple days and found out a lot of info. But nothing solid. I took my 2010 e90 Msport non Xi to get an Eibach Pro Kit with Koni Yellows to get installed.
Allpart numbers have been checked and verified probably 20 times before and even after since I'm having this problem. I also have a 2007 e90 with the same exact kit and it sat how it should and actually is lower. So here's the problem. The front driver side is about the same as stock Msport. I didn't measure before because I assumed it would go well. But eyeballing it looks about the same gap and also doing the "finger test". The front passenger is about a half inch higher than left after measuring. HUGE gap. The driver rear is sitting tucked like it probably should be. About a half inch lower than stock I'm guessing. The passenger rear is about stock height, so it's sitting about a half in higher than the driver rear after measuring both sides. What in the actual fuck.... I read about preloading the suspension. And the only reason I took this to a shop is because I have never done this or used a spring compressor,but I have many tools and have worked on most things on my car. Just not suspension. Upon researching, I thought that maybe the fronts are not preloaded because everything was put on while the car was on a lift. I didn't watch the entire install but I know he preloaded the driver rear with a tool that raised the suspension. I thought that maybe he didn't preload the rest because he was in a rush or something. So I went out and jacked up my car, took off the wheel, loosened the control arms to the point of being able to have play, put a jack stand on, used another jack to raise the suspension from the rotor to compress it, then tightened the control arms. I did both sides and drove the car around. I measured before and after and it came back to exactly where it was before.
I really don't know what else could be causing this. I do think they may need to settle a bit but then they would all still be uneven if they all settled the same amount. He used the old spring pads. Nothing is rattling or clunking like it's all loose. Is there a way to see if the springs are not in there correctly? Meaning, would they not be seated properly? How could I tell? Could a spring be upside down or not facing the right way or something? I have read multiple threads saying the rear may be lower than the front. And then I have read multiple threads that they are ok and the front sits even with the back or at least damn close. I've seen many pictures of the same set up sitting right. And above all, I owned a damn e90 with the same damn springs that sat even and with the front way lower than this. Even right after the install. Any suggestions? I'm taking it back to the installer but don't know what else to really say to him. I told him right after the install that it was way low on the driver rear and everything else was high as stock or higher. He said to let it settle because it was just up in the air. It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone else have this issue and actually figure out the solution?

[Gohan335i7]

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[tmo24]

Originally Posted by Gohan335i7

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No joke that has been me the entire last two days. I guess things may not be seated properly. What I'm trying to avoid is having him check and say "yup, everything is in there right like it should be. That'll be $100 labor. Let em settle. If it's not good in a few weeks then your parts are defective." Which I HIGHLY doubt. ?

[Gohan335i7]

If they installed everything why would they charge you just 2 check?! I'm thinking you might need to find another reputable Indy shop that know what they are doing & will actually listen to what you are telling them. Good Indy's never charge to check your car unless they actually fix something that was defective or replaced a part. Bad Indy's charge any chance they get.

[tmo24]

Originally Posted by Gohan335i7

If they installed everything why would they charge you just 2 check?! I'm thinking you might need to find another reputable Indy shop that know what they are doing & will actually listen to what you are telling them. Good Indy's never charge to check your car unless they actually fix something that was defective or replaced a part. Bad Indy's charge any chance they get.

I'm just thinking from a business standpoint. If it's truly not their fault, then they spend an hour or so labor checking just to make sure they did it right because someone questioned it. In that case, I wouldn't mind paying if they are doing labor. But I'm sure something is wrong. I just don't like fighting those battles when it should be checked. But you know how some places get. They get defensive sometimes and look for reasons not to be wrong. New shop could come up if needed. But I want to give them a chance and go in there at least educated. If it's something I can look at and know it's wrong, I can say to look at it because the springs aren't seated properly or something.

[Dan_Q]

As you likely know the springs sit in rubber pads top and bottom on both the front and rear springs. The pads have a profile mimicking the spring so they essentially "screw" into the springs on either end. If the spring is not rotated fully engaged in the pad it could sit higher. Look at the pad top and bottom on that spring and make sure that it looks like it is fully engaged.

[jwebb335xi]

Originally Posted by tmo24

Sorry, this will be a little long. I've been searching for a couple days and found out a lot of info. But nothing solid. I took my 2010 e90 Msport non Xi to get anEibach Pro Kit with Koni Yellows to get installed.
Yes, all part numbers have been checked and verified probably 20 times before and even after since I'm having this problem. I checked a bunch of times because the eibachs were used from a forum member and I wanted to make sure that everything was good upon receiving them. I also looked at pictures installed on his car. I also has a 2007 e90 with the same exact kit and it say perfectly.
So here's the problem. The front driver side is about the same as stock Msport. I didn't measure before because I assumed it would go well. But eyeballing it looks about the same gap and also doing the "finger test". The front passenger is about a half inch higher than left after measuring. HUGE gap. The driver rear is sitting tucked like it should be. About a half inch lower than stock I'm guessing. The passenger rear is about how stock height, so it's sitting about a half in higher than the driver rear after measuring both sides. What in the actual fuck.... I read about preloading the suspension. And the only reason I took this to a shop is because I have never done this or used a spring compressor but I have many tools and have worked on most things on my car. Just not suspension. Upon researching, I thought that maybe the fronts are not preloaded because everything was put on while the car was on a lift. I didn't watch the entire install but I know he preloaded the driver rear with a tool that raised the suspension. I thought that maybe he didn't preload the rest because he was in a rush or something. So I went out and jacked up my car, took off the wheel, loosened the control arms to the point of being able to have play, put a jack stand on, used another jack to raise the suspension from the rotor to compress it, then tightened the control arms. Unless everything I read was wrong and I did this wrong, it should be preloaded. I did both sides and drove the car around. I measured before and after and it came back to exactly where it was before.
I really don't know what else could be causing this. I do think they may need to settle a bit but then they would all still be uneven if they all settled the same amount. He used the old spring pads. Nothing is rattling or clunking like it's all loose. Is there a way to see if the springs are not in there correctly? Meaning, would they not be seated properly? How could I tell? Could spring be upside down or not facing the right way or something? I have read multiple threads saying the rear may be lower than the front. And then I have read multiple threads that they are ok and the front sits even with the back or at least damn close. I've seen many pictures of the same set up sitting right. And above all, I owned a damn e90 with the same damn springs that sat even and with the front way lower than this. Even right after the install. Any suggestions? I'm taking it back to the installer but don't know what else to really say to him. I told him right after the install that it was way low on the driver rear and everything else was high as stock or higher. He said to let it settle because it was just up in the air. It doesn't make sense to me. Anyone else have this issue and actually figure out the solution?

Have you checked to see if the front strut is seated properly -- and like the other side? I suppose it's possible the knuckle wasn't spread far enough and the strut isn't seated all the way down to where it should be..? I don't see how shocks in the rear could be seated improperly, but check both sides, looking for differences. As someone else mentioned, you can also check to see if springs and spring pads are seated correlcty. Compare good side to bad side, noting differences.

[tmo24]

Originally Posted by jwebb335xi

Have you checked to see if the front strut is seated properly -- and like the other side? I suppose it's possible the knuckle wasn't spread far enough and the strut isn't seated all the way down to where it should be..? I don't see how shocks in the rear could be seated improperly, but check both sides, looking for differences. As someone else mentioned, you can also check to see if springs and spring pads are seated correlcty. Compare good side to bad side, noting differences.

I'm going to take it back and make sure he checks. The passenger rear is making a slight clunk over bumps that I'm noticing now. Maybe I didn't before because I had some music on. Either way, it's not right. Thanks for the input guys.

[tmo24]

I took the car back and he put it in the air. He said everything looks seated properly. I looked and the pads look seated and springs look seated. He said that the parts could be bad or wrong but part numbers are the right ones. I told him that if he essentially put the passenger springs on the driver side that it should have the exact opposite problem, so the left side would sit higher etc. He basically said that is a possibility but would be a lot of work to find out. I'm thinking the only other way to figure this out is to bring it to another shop. At this point, he seems like he's not quite sure but doesn't want to go through work to find out either.