[t0eknee_C]

ok guys.. So ive been really looking into tuning my car with either the JB2HR or the procede V2. Which would you guys prefer? Does the procede v2 make alot more power than the Juice box? The jb2hr comes out to be like $600 while the procede is like almost $2k. Really stuck on which one to choose. Plese help out guys.

Thanks,

[ducpor]

Here ya go

[jcarlucci1]

Many used procedes for sale around $700..Vishnu has enough money, buy used

[j|rz44]

^ yeah you can find a few in nor. cal. for sale and stick w/ the maps that are proven and your golden...

[jdink]

where do you get the 2k number from? $1295 is the price.

http://www.vishnutuning.com/bmw_zero.htm

If you buy used, make sure everything is in working order or you will end up like the last guy who posted here for help on his procede

Also, if you buy from Vishnu they are in the area and Dustin can probably do the install for you

[down4it]

Originally Posted by t0eknee_C

ok guys.. So ive been really looking into tuning my car with either the JB2HR or the procede V2. Which would you guys prefer? Does the procede v2 make alot more power than the Juice box? The jb2hr comes out to be like $600 while the procede is like almost $2k. Really stuck on which one to choose. Plese help out guys.

Thanks,

The JB so far is making more horsepowero and less problemo for mucho less dinero.

[t0eknee_C]

thanks guys. yeah Vishnu is local for me.. Hmmm.. ive just been reading a bunch of post where people are having problems with no response from shiv.

[e90AW335i]

Cant go wrong with a JB product....

G/L with your choice sir...

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by down4it

The JB so far is making more horsepowero and less problemo for mucho less dinero.

Its making more power on race gas, not pump. Big difference.

[marcvtec]

Originally Posted by down4it

The JB so far is making more horsepowero and less problemo for mucho less dinero.

hmmmm V2.1 will probably be a great safe tune. with way more features than the JB,, unless JB can add more french fries under the hood with chicken nugget switches

[down4it]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

Its making more power on race gas, not pump. Big difference.

No difference dude, the JB makes more power when both tunes are on race gas...

[down4it]

Originally Posted by marcvtec

hmmmm V2.1 will probably be a great safe tune. with way more features than the JB,, unless JB can add more french fries under the hood with chicken nugget switches

Hahaha youre so funny man...

No one thats smart wants features, keep that on a Lexus... I want HP and TQ, thats what the JB delivers.

[marcvtec]

Originally Posted by down4it

Hahaha youre so funny man...

No one thats smart wants features, keep that on a Lexus... I want HP and TQ, thats what the JB delivers.

On a serious note, does the JB leave any trace in the computer after it is uninstalled ? ,, In case you need to do any warrenty work.

[down4it]

Originally Posted by marcvtec

On a serious note, does the JB leave any trace in the computer after it is uninstalled ? ,, In case you need to do any warrenty work.

No, it is the same as any other piggyback, once it is removed there is no way of knowing it was there...

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by t0eknee_C

thanks guys. yeah Vishnu is local for me.. Hmmm.. ive just been reading a bunch of post where people are having problems with no response from shiv.

There are far more with no problems and get responses the same day...so go figure??

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by down4it

No difference dude, the JB makes more power when both tunes are on race gas...

Which JB and which Procede tune?

[down4it]

Originally Posted by 335lvr

Which JB and which Procede tune?

Procede V2 maxed out on race gas and JB2HHR on the same gas... Made more power on the JB...

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by down4it

No difference dude, the JB makes more power when both tunes are on race gas...

Yea, there is a reason that it makes more power on the same fuel and similar boost, it sacrifices long term safety. The JB boxes work, I am not denying that, but tuning is what I do, and I can tell you, the JB boxes are not the safest method of tuning a vehicle. Its a simple resistor type setup. Very basic and primitive for nearly 400 dollars. Does it work, yes no doubt.

On REGULAR fuel,91 for us so-cal folks as you know yourself, the Haltech (oops, I meant PROcede) will make more power.

I just made my own box yesterday basically and the cost comes out to about 96 cents or so, and a couple bucks more if you use BMW pins to make it easier.

Not trying to be combative or argumentative in any way, just thought I would give you some insight from a Prof. Tuner perspective.

[down4it]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

Yea, there is a reason that it makes more power on the same fuel and similar boost, it sacrifices long term safety. The JB boxes work, I am not denying that, but tuning is what I do, and I can tell you, the JB boxes are not the safest method of tuning a vehicle. Its a simple resistor type setup. Very basic and primitive for nearly 400 dollars. Does it work, yes no doubt.

On REGULAR fuel,91 for us so-cal folks as you know yourself, the Haltech (oops, I meant PROcede) will make more power.

I just made my own box yesterday basically and the cost comes out to about 96 cents or so, and a couple bucks more if you use BMW pins to make it easier.

Not trying to be combative or argumentative in any way, just thought I would give you some insight from a Prof. Tuner perspective.

You can say what you like, just because you call yourself a tuner on here doesnt mean you are one or that you are any good at it. Im a poker player, you dont see me winning championships though... You are wrong the JB2HR is making more power on 91 than the Procede but Terry made it clear that it is not recommended.

[5soko]

just do a search man, there is just so much info on these tunes and the same exact discussion there is no reason for this.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by down4it

You can say what you like, just because you call yourself a tuner on here doesnt mean you are one or that you are any good at it.

LOL. That's pretty funny.

You just said it yourself, the JB2HR may make more power, but its not recommended. Why? It may not be safe. Ignition timing is the most IMPORTANT aspect of tuning an engine especially in a forced induction relatively high compression application. The JB, SSTT boxes don't do anything for ignition timing and its left to the stock computer to do it. You are running boost well out of its intended range..

I keep things hush hush around here. Don't want to "violate forum rules".

[down4it]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

LOL. That's pretty funny.

You just said it yourself, the JB2HR may make more power, but its not recommended. Why? It may not be safe. Ignition timing is the most IMPORTANT aspect of tuning an engine especially in a forced induction relatively high compression application. The JB, SSTT boxes don't do anything for ignition timing and its left to the stock computer to do it. You are running boost well out of its intended range..

I keep things hush hush around here. Don't want to "violate forum rules".

Dont be a girl and keep things quiet, in america we have the freedom of speech...

I said it is not recommended to run the JB2HR on 91oct... It is also recommended by Vishnu to not run the Procede At higher than 92% on 91oct as well... Anything else fanboy?