E90Post
 


Coby Wheel
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > ConnectedDrive / I-Drive / Navigation Related Discussion > Remove CIC from my 2009 BMW E90



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-11-2016, 08:44 AM   #1
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Remove CIC from my 2009 BMW E90

Hello Everyone,

I've searched a lot may be not enough, but i find only post about retrofitting CIC, and upgrading to NBT.
But Is there a way to completely remove the CIC (Idrive system) ?

What will I loose? Will i still be able to play CD? Radio? Connect my phone?

Has anyone done this? If yes, could you point me to the right direction or post.

I know I'll loose the Parking sensor display for one thing, i can live without that, but what else?

Thanks in advance
Kaputme
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 10:07 AM   #2
PichaDis11
Colonel
PichaDis11's Avatar
United_States
296
Rep
2,214
Posts

Drives: E90 N52
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaputme View Post
Hello Everyone,

I've searched a lot may be not enough, but i find only post about retrofitting CIC, and upgrading to NBT.
But Is there a way to completely remove the CIC (Idrive system) ?

What will I loose? Will i still be able to play CD? Radio? Connect my phone?

Has anyone done this? If yes, could you point me to the right direction or post.

I know I'll loose the Parking sensor display for one thing, i can live without that, but what else?

Thanks in advance
Kaputme
Basically just do the reverse of the retrofit. Obviously, you'll lose all the visual functionality of the iDrive System. The Professional Radio and iDrive System uses the same connector. AUdio system is the tricky part. if you have Hifi audio and replace idrive with a hIfi professional radio; easy plug and play. Hifi -> Top-Hifi radio would have to be coded to hifi or vice-versa.

Key thing is to code the car to let the modules know the idrive system is not present so you get the option of services (CBS) to the cluster.
__________________
Retrofits: 322, 609, 6FL, 6NR, 6VC, 2TB..
Upgrades: Bilstein B8 Eibach Spring kit
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 10:42 AM   #3
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by PichaDis11 View Post
Basically just do the reverse of the retrofit. Obviously, you'll lose all the visual functionality of the iDrive System. The Professional Radio and iDrive System uses the same connector. AUdio system is the tricky part. if you have Hifi audio and replace idrive with a hIfi professional radio; easy plug and play. Hifi -> Top-Hifi radio would have to be coded to hifi or vice-versa.

Key thing is to code the car to let the modules know the idrive system is not present so you get the option of services (CBS) to the cluster.
Thanks,

Is it not possible to just remove the Idrive (screen), Controller (replace with no controller center console) and leave the Radio as it is?

I use my Phone for navigation and USB for music. I rarely use the Idrive.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 11:18 AM   #4
PichaDis11
Colonel
PichaDis11's Avatar
United_States
296
Rep
2,214
Posts

Drives: E90 N52
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaputme
Quote:
Originally Posted by PichaDis11 View Post
Basically just do the reverse of the retrofit. Obviously, you'll lose all the visual functionality of the iDrive System. The Professional Radio and iDrive System uses the same connector. AUdio system is the tricky part. if you have Hifi audio and replace idrive with a hIfi professional radio; easy plug and play. Hifi -> Top-Hifi radio would have to be coded to hifi or vice-versa.

Key thing is to code the car to let the modules know the idrive system is not present so you get the option of services (CBS) to the cluster.
Thanks,

Is it not possible to just remove the Idrive (screen), Controller (replace with no controller center console) and leave the Radio as it is?

I use my Phone for navigation and USB for music. I rarely use the Idrive.
Certainly can. But how do you plan operate the unit without seeing the menu's etc?
__________________
Retrofits: 322, 609, 6FL, 6NR, 6VC, 2TB..
Upgrades: Bilstein B8 Eibach Spring kit
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 01:30 PM   #5
AK.
Lieutenant
AK.'s Avatar
138
Rep
592
Posts

Drives: E90 M3/E92 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: California

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2010 E90 335i  [10.00]
Why would you want to do something like that? lol.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 03:09 PM   #6
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by PichaDis11 View Post
Certainly can. But how do you plan operate the unit without seeing the menu's etc?

What Menu's ? Am I missing something?

the vehicle service info is on the BC, Connected drive i don't have, BMW online, i Don't have... What else-.. come on help me guys
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 04:09 PM   #7
vespa
First Lieutenant
228
Rep
245
Posts

Drives: 2011 335i
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Thousand Oaks

iTrader: (0)

Another great upgrade to consider is removing one of the rear wheels. It turns out that you don't actually need both of them most of the time, so removing one will save a lot of weight.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 04:41 PM   #8
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by vespa View Post
Another great upgrade to consider is removing one of the rear wheels. It turns out that you don't actually need both of them most of the time, so removing one will save a lot of weight.
So I am guessing you are being sarcastic or you have no idea how to make full use of your car. If i wanted to drive a 3 wheeled automobile i would have driven a rickshaw and not bothered spending money on a BMW.

There are BMW's without Idrive running just as good as yours and mine. So why the one poke in the eye kinda reply..

If you can't answer it. and you don't know.. Just let it be...
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 04:43 PM   #9
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1172
Rep
4,654
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

I'll trade you my non idrive setup for your idrive
__________________
F30 335i
Melbourne Red Metallic
M-Sport Package
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2016, 04:47 PM   #10
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeastMode335i View Post
I'll trade you my non idrive setup for your idrive
Sure!! :-)

You just have to ship it all the way to Germany..

You can do a European Delivery (+ Pick Up )
Appreciate 1
      05-11-2016, 04:52 PM   #11
BeastMode335i
Maximus Decimus Meridius
BeastMode335i's Avatar
United_States
1172
Rep
4,654
Posts

Drives: F30 335i
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Down South

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaputme View Post
Sure!! :-)

You just have to ship it all the way to Germany..

You can do a European Delivery (+ Pick Up )
Damn just noticed that lol.. Well it's the thought that counts I suppose
__________________
F30 335i
Melbourne Red Metallic
M-Sport Package
Appreciate 0
      05-12-2016, 03:47 PM   #12
PichaDis11
Colonel
PichaDis11's Avatar
United_States
296
Rep
2,214
Posts

Drives: E90 N52
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaputme
Quote:
Originally Posted by PichaDis11 View Post
Certainly can. But how do you plan operate the unit without seeing the menu's etc?

What Menu's ? Am I missing something?

the vehicle service info is on the BC, Connected drive i don't have, BMW online, i Don't have... What else-.. come on help me guys
When I did retrofit for iDrive all Service functions from BC menu went to the iDrive system.

Like I said its def possible to do what you are asking. No questions asked.
__________________
Retrofits: 322, 609, 6FL, 6NR, 6VC, 2TB..
Upgrades: Bilstein B8 Eibach Spring kit
Appreciate 0
      05-12-2016, 03:57 PM   #13
JustinGTP
Captain
JustinGTP's Avatar
Canada
60
Rep
602
Posts

Drives: '13 MINI Paceman JCW
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary, Alberta

iTrader: (0)

Why do you want to remove such an expensive feature? Even if you don't use it, it's pretty desirable. If you want to remove it, you will need to fit a new dash to take out the second hump. You would have to source another head unit so that you could play your music/etc. You would also need a new trim piece in the centre console to remove the iDrive controller. So much work to remove something of value. What an interesting post. What is the reason to remove this? Weight gain? Or simply because you don't use it?
__________________
'09 LCI 335i E90 in BSM over Oyster Dakota Leather, Manual, Sport, Navigation, Individual Audiophile, Executive, Active Steering, JB4 + MHD BEF, 335is Exhaust w/AWE Tuning Tips, AFE DCI, Euro Tails/Fog Light Switch, various painted and other OEM + mods, 19" M5 reps summer
'13 MINI Cooper S Paceman JCW R61in Light White & Black Roof/Mirror Caps/Sport Stripes, Loaded + Rare
Appreciate 0
      05-12-2016, 08:56 PM   #14
VTECaddict
Where'd my VTEC go?
VTECaddict's Avatar
United_States
487
Rep
6,066
Posts

Drives: 06 330i 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (4)

You can't just remove the screen. Well you can, but you will have a gaping hole where the screen was, and there will be no visual to see what radio station you're on or anything.

If you want to replace the dashboard with one without the second hump, you will have to replace the head unit with the regular radio head unit because the iDrive unit won't fit in the regular dash.

But why remove it unless you're planning to gut the car and make it a track car? Even if you don't use any of the ConnectedDrive features or sat nav, it doesn't cost you anything to just leave it there and use regular radio. I would cost you way more to retrofit non-iDrive hardware and you would be paying to lose functionality.
__________________
AW/Terra | ZSP | ZPP | ZCW | iDrive | CA
Mods: BC BR coilovers | Blacklines | M-tech rear | dual exhaust | M3 steering wheel | BMW SSK | ZHP shift knob | High-kick CF spoiler | NBT Retrofit
M3 front control arms | M3 rear guide rods | Manzo rear toe and camber links | Monroe rear shock mounts | Varrstoen ES1 19x9.5+20 Front, 19x11+25 rear
Appreciate 0
      05-13-2016, 03:21 AM   #15
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
I'm not doing it anymore

After extensive research from past week and from all your suggestions i have come to realize I'll spend more on removing it than the money i get from selling the unit, not to mention the amount of time and effort.

I wanted to do this mod because i wanted a better screen, Touchscreen maybe. Have some WiFi facility when parked in the garage (Don't want to pay 180€ Every year for Connected services, the previous owner used it up so its dead not.) and some more music space. (don't have USB in center console so i am limited to the HDD)

If there is a way to get WIFI it'll be awesome.

Last edited by kaputme; 05-13-2016 at 09:04 AM..
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2016, 03:51 AM   #16
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaputme View Post
After extensive research from past week and from all your suggestions i have come to realize I'll spend more on removing it than the money i get from selling the unit, not to mention the amount of time and effort.

I wanted to do this mod because i wanted a better screen, Touchscreen maybe. Have some WiFi facility when parked in the garage (Don't want to pay 180€ Every year for Connected services, the previous owner used it up so its dead not.) and some more music space. (don't have USB in center console so i am limited to the HDD)

If there is a way to get WIFI it'll be awesome.

Any One? Any Suggestions on WIFI in CAR?
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2016, 08:36 AM   #17
PichaDis11
Colonel
PichaDis11's Avatar
United_States
296
Rep
2,214
Posts

Drives: E90 N52
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: NY

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kaputme
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaputme View Post
After extensive research from past week and from all your suggestions i have come to realize I'll spend more on removing it than the money i get from selling the unit, not to mention the amount of time and effort.

I wanted to do this mod because i wanted a better screen, Touchscreen maybe. Have some WiFi facility when parked in the garage (Don't want to pay 180€ Every year for Connected services, the previous owner used it up so its dead not.) and some more music space. (don't have USB in center console so i am limited to the HDD)

If there is a way to get WIFI it'll be awesome.

Any One? Any Suggestions on WIFI in CAR?
I'm sure you can grab a mobile hotspot from your cell carrier. Hard wire and store in your glove box and call it a day.

Vendor Bimmertech also offers a unit that will mirror an iOS/ android device to your iDrive screen.
__________________
Retrofits: 322, 609, 6FL, 6NR, 6VC, 2TB..
Upgrades: Bilstein B8 Eibach Spring kit
Appreciate 0
      05-19-2016, 10:17 PM   #18
vespa
First Lieutenant
228
Rep
245
Posts

Drives: 2011 335i
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Thousand Oaks

iTrader: (0)

What is "WIFI in CAR"? Do you want to use your phone as a Wifi router and supply the car with internet service? What would the car do with the service? Web browsing with the CIC is pretty bad, and even worse if you remove the CIC. Would you modify the speedometer so that you could send/receive email thru it?
Appreciate 0
      05-25-2016, 08:21 AM   #19
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by vespa View Post
What is "WIFI in CAR"? Do you want to use your phone as a Wifi router and supply the car with internet service? What would the car do with the service? Web browsing with the CIC is pretty bad, and even worse if you remove the CIC. Would you modify the speedometer so that you could send/receive email thru it?
That would be awesome.. But thats dangerous. I take my Driving very responsibly.

I want a way to check mails and connect to Wifi when i am parked in the garage or in the drive way. But i have realized its not that easy without the AV or Combobox.
Appreciate 0
      05-25-2016, 10:17 PM   #20
VTECaddict
Where'd my VTEC go?
VTECaddict's Avatar
United_States
487
Rep
6,066
Posts

Drives: 06 330i 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Seattle, WA

iTrader: (4)

TBH just take out your phone. The iDrive is a terrible interface for the office functions or web browsing, especially if you're already parked.
__________________
AW/Terra | ZSP | ZPP | ZCW | iDrive | CA
Mods: BC BR coilovers | Blacklines | M-tech rear | dual exhaust | M3 steering wheel | BMW SSK | ZHP shift knob | High-kick CF spoiler | NBT Retrofit
M3 front control arms | M3 rear guide rods | Manzo rear toe and camber links | Monroe rear shock mounts | Varrstoen ES1 19x9.5+20 Front, 19x11+25 rear
Appreciate 0
      05-31-2016, 07:25 AM   #21
kaputme
Private First Class
Germany
17
Rep
176
Posts

Drives: E90 2009
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Germany Aachen

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 BMW E90  [8.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECaddict View Post
TBH just take out your phone. The iDrive is a terrible interface for the office functions or web browsing, especially if you're already parked.
Good Idea, And i'll use the cash and time on New wheels and taking nice long rides on winding country roads.

thanks guys
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST