First FBO mod?

skyotee · 05-23-2016, 10:57 PM

Okay, quick opinion poll --

I have decided which parts I want to start bolting on, but I am trying to take it easy on my wallet and pace myself! So, the FMIC I want is about $850. And, if I combine downpipes, charge pipe and BOV, that combo is also about $850.

Which would you do first, FMIC? Or chargepipe/BOV & downpipe combo?

I live in socal, hot summer coming up. But, I feel like downpipe is the best bang for buck, and I don't want to blow a chargepipe and have my car down. So, I am leaning towards the chargepipe downpipe combo as the first move. Thoughts?

firemanjust1 · 05-23-2016, 11:33 PM

I would start with the intercooler first since your are in a warm weather state. Then I would go with dps, if your charge pipe doesn't blow up before those installs get that last.

Grand_hustle17 · 05-23-2016, 11:43 PM

Doesnt matter if youre getting all the mods. Just buy something lol

Shrike360 · 05-23-2016, 11:48 PM

Definitely get a chargepipe on there first, just for peace of mind.

cochran · 05-24-2016, 12:06 AM

Chargepipe first. My CP blew recently and my car was immobile for a week.

AK. · 05-24-2016, 04:23 AM

You can get an ER charge pipe and use the stock diverter valves. That's what I'm using. They are located in Monterey Park so maybe you can give them a call and drop by. I have their intercooler as well and my intercooler doesn't heat soak anymore. Downpipes doesn't matter to tbh VRSF are nice. I used them for about 20k miles already.

jwebb335xi · 05-24-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by skyotee

Okay, quick opinion poll --

I have decided which parts I want to start bolting on, but I am trying to take it easy on my wallet and pace myself! So, the FMIC I want is about $850. And, if I combine downpipes, charge pipe and BOV, that combo is also about $850.

Which would you do first, FMIC? Or chargepipe/BOV & downpipe combo?

I live in socal, hot summer coming up. But, I feel like downpipe is the best bang for buck, and I don't want to blow a chargepipe and have my car down. So, I am leaning towards the chargepipe downpipe combo as the first move. Thoughts?

Since you want to pace your spending, you would be well advised starting with charge pipe because they are known to fail, particularly under higher boost.. You may also want to plan for walnut blast, coils and plugs. Seems folks who are tuning end-up doing these items pretty soon there after.

hellokitty · 05-24-2016, 09:53 AM

ER CP + Tial BOV first, FMIC second, DPs last

mojobmw_e90 · 05-24-2016, 10:02 AM

I would start with new spark plugs, coils, clean ur intake valves then mod

skyotee · 05-24-2016, 10:30 AM

Thanks for the input. As far as the maintenance items, walnut blasting is done already. I am at 34,000 miles, is it time for plugs & coils or can I let that go for a bit? Car runs good, although every once in awhile the engine misses/hesitates under hard acceleration. No codes.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 05-24-2016, 10:33 AM

FMIC first for sure.

Hesitation can be plugs, coils or even injectors.

If you are still on original plugs start with those.

LQQKOUT · 05-24-2016, 10:58 AM

Why not start with the MHD tune. That will be the best bang for the $$. And see what issues come up ( coils, plugs, injectors) before spending $1K on an intercooler. All the mods listed won't give you 20% of the power a tune will. This is the way I always started moding my N54's. Had 3 so far.

skyotee · 05-24-2016, 11:02 AM

I probably should have mentioned, I am on MHD Stage 1 tune already.

The occasional hesitation I mentioned, used to happen before the tune as well. Used to be worse, but improved after walnut blasting. FWIW, the dealer checked the injectors and said they were fine (I know that may not mean much).

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 05-24-2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by skyotee

I probably should have mentioned, I am on MHD Stage 1 tune already.

The occasional hesitation I mentioned, used to happen before the tune as well. Used to be worse, but improved after walnut blasting. FWIW, the dealer checked the injectors and said they were fine (I know that may not mean much).

Start with the plugs. You are due for plugs as they should be replaced every 25K miles.

Jklad · 05-24-2016, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyotee

Okay, quick opinion poll --

I have decided which parts I want to start bolting on, but I am trying to take it easy on my wallet and pace myself! So, the FMIC I want is about $850. And, if I combine downpipes, charge pipe and BOV, that combo is also about $850.

Which would you do first, FMIC? Or chargepipe/BOV & downpipe combo?

I live in socal, hot summer coming up. But, I feel like downpipe is the best bang for buck, and I don't want to blow a chargepipe and have my car down. So, I am leaning towards the chargepipe downpipe combo as the first move. Thoughts?

I would not spend 850 on an fmic unless your are building an all out balls to the walls build with stage 3 clutch and pure stage 2s / equivalent, trying to eek out every last ounce of performance possible. Or, if your a real stickler about where things were made, highest quality bla bla.

You can buy a vrsf fmic, 5in stepped or 7in for around 400, dps for 300, and spend some the 150 I saved you on either new plugs, or put it towards a new charge pipe.

DennisPacMo · 05-24-2016, 12:44 PM

MHD Software
Stage 2 Fuel Pump.

mike@x-ph.com · 05-24-2016, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyotee

Okay, quick opinion poll --

I have decided which parts I want to start bolting on, but I am trying to take it easy on my wallet and pace myself! So, the FMIC I want is about $850. And, if I combine downpipes, charge pipe and BOV, that combo is also about $850.

Which would you do first, FMIC? Or chargepipe/BOV & downpipe combo?

I live in socal, hot summer coming up. But, I feel like downpipe is the best bang for buck, and I don't want to blow a chargepipe and have my car down. So, I am leaning towards the chargepipe downpipe combo as the first move. Thoughts?

Start with an intercooler

dreyo27 · 05-24-2016, 04:13 PM

since you are in socal you have E85.
Buy used intercooler -$350
DCI-$50
MHD flash and logging and E40 tune. $220
stage 1 LPFP-$100
Enjoy ~440 WHP

kennejp · 05-24-2016, 05:36 PM

buy vrsf intercooler-$450. not sure why anyone would spend more....

mike@x-ph.com · 05-24-2016, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kennejp

buy vrsf intercooler-$450. not sure why anyone would spend more....

VRSF is a great product (and one of our top sellers). It is offered at a very nice price for a great value / price combo

That being said each customer / car is different and there is no one intercooler that will be the best option for all cases

puppydax · 05-24-2016, 05:39 PM

Intercooler, you're in SoCal and summer is approaching. I'm in NorCal and know how hot it can get down there and up here.

A chargepipe should really be last or until it blows as it's a peace of mind mod IMO. Intarcoolar.

Fundguy1 · 05-24-2016, 05:40 PM

Tune of choice
Catless downpipes
FMIC
Charge pipe
DCI
Inlets

05-23-2016, 10:57 PM	#1
skyotee Private 20 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	First FBO mod? Okay, quick opinion poll -- I have decided which parts I want to start bolting on, but I am trying to take it easy on my wallet and pace myself! So, the FMIC I want is about $850. And, if I combine downpipes, charge pipe and BOV, that combo is also about $850. Which would you do first, FMIC? Or chargepipe/BOV & downpipe combo? I live in socal, hot summer coming up. But, I feel like downpipe is the best bang for buck, and I don't want to blow a chargepipe and have my car down. So, I am leaning towards the chargepipe downpipe combo as the first move. Thoughts?
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firemanjust1 Second Lieutenant 32 Rep 208 Posts Drives: Audi S3/03 350z Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: buffalo ny iTrader: (0)	I would start with the intercooler first since your are in a warm weather state. Then I would go with dps, if your charge pipe doesn't blow up before those installs get that last.
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05-23-2016, 11:43 PM	#3
Grand_hustle17 Major 194 Rep 1,173 Posts Drives: E90 335i Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Doesnt matter if youre getting all the mods. Just buy something lol
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05-23-2016, 11:48 PM	#4
Shrike360 Lieutenant 508 Rep 497 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3, 2011 Porsche CTT Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: PDX, Oregon iTrader: (0)	Definitely get a chargepipe on there first, just for peace of mind.
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05-24-2016, 12:06 AM	#5
cochran Second Lieutenant 38 Rep 202 Posts Drives: 09 335i (E90) Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (0)	Chargepipe first. My CP blew recently and my car was immobile for a week. __________________ 2009 E90 335i MHD Stage 2 \| BMW PE \| X-Pipe/Resonator Delete\| K&N Drop-In \|VRSF CP \| VRSF 7" FMIC \| VRSF DP's \| Apex Arc-8
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05-24-2016, 04:23 AM	#6
AK. Lieutenant 138 Rep 592 Posts Drives: E90 M3/E92 M3 ZCP Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: California iTrader: (3) Garage List 2010 E90 335i [10.00]	You can get an ER charge pipe and use the stock diverter valves. That's what I'm using. They are located in Monterey Park so maybe you can give them a call and drop by. I have their intercooler as well and my intercooler doesn't heat soak anymore. Downpipes doesn't matter to tbh VRSF are nice. I used them for about 20k miles already.
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05-24-2016, 09:53 AM	#8
hellokitty Brigadier General 2949 Rep 3,734 Posts Drives: '17 M3 ZCP DCT Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Southern California iTrader: (2)	ER CP + Tial BOV first, FMIC second, DPs last __________________ 2017 F80 M3 ZCP / AA GESI DPs / Akrapovic Evo / BBS FI-R 19" / Bend Calibration ECUTEK Flex Fuel \| Bilstein B16 DDC + CS EDC / BMC Filters / BMS OCC / CSF HE / ESS CP / Nitto NT555R2 / PD Crank Hub / SPL Suspension / Uniden R7 / Wagner Top Mount IC 2021 Mini GP3 / BMC Filters / BM3 / Cary Jordan E30 / Wagner IC / Remus Race
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05-24-2016, 10:02 AM	#9
mojobmw_e90 Major 382 Rep 1,497 Posts Drives: 2014 E63S Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (3)	I would start with new spark plugs, coils, clean ur intake valves then mod
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05-24-2016, 10:30 AM	#10
skyotee Private 20 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the input. As far as the maintenance items, walnut blasting is done already. I am at 34,000 miles, is it time for plugs & coils or can I let that go for a bit? Car runs good, although every once in awhile the engine misses/hesitates under hard acceleration. No codes.
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05-24-2016, 10:33 AM	#11
Jeff@TopGearSolutions 3472 Rep 79,211 Posts Drives: C6 Z06, 09 335i, 10 335xi Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: www.TopGearSolutions.com iTrader: (37)	FMIC first for sure. Hesitation can be plugs, coils or even injectors. If you are still on original plugs start with those.
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05-24-2016, 10:58 AM	#12
LQQKOUT Lieutenant 104 Rep 416 Posts Drives: 335XI Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: United States iTrader: (4)	Why not start with the MHD tune. That will be the best bang for the $$. And see what issues come up ( coils, plugs, injectors) before spending $1K on an intercooler. All the mods listed won't give you 20% of the power a tune will. This is the way I always started moding my N54's. Had 3 so far.
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05-24-2016, 11:02 AM	#13
skyotee Private 20 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 2015 M235i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	I probably should have mentioned, I am on MHD Stage 1 tune already. The occasional hesitation I mentioned, used to happen before the tune as well. Used to be worse, but improved after walnut blasting. FWIW, the dealer checked the injectors and said they were fine (I know that may not mean much).
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DennisPacMo Private First Class 72 Rep 116 Posts Drives: 335xi Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: PDX iTrader: (0)	MHD Software Stage 2 Fuel Pump.
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05-24-2016, 04:13 PM	#18
dreyo27 First Lieutenant 93 Rep 322 Posts Drives: 2007 335i e92 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Sacramento CA iTrader: (3)	since you are in socal you have E85. Buy used intercooler -$350 DCI-$50 MHD flash and logging and E40 tune. $220 stage 1 LPFP-$100 Enjoy ~440 WHP
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05-24-2016, 05:36 PM	#19
kennejp First Lieutenant 42 Rep 348 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: TN iTrader: (2)	buy vrsf intercooler-$450. not sure why anyone would spend more.... __________________ 07 E92 MT RB Turbos(All options)/ VTT Inlets/ VRSF 7In IC/ VRSF DP/Vangaurd Exhaust/AFE intake/Stett CP with Tial BOV/BT CC/ Meth Dual CM10s/ E85 Walbro Pump(E50)/JB4 with BB "e85" flash
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05-24-2016, 05:39 PM	#21
puppydax Lieutenant 266 Rep 530 Posts Drives: '25 Portimao M2 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Roseville, CA iTrader: (4)	Intercooler, you're in SoCal and summer is approaching. I'm in NorCal and know how hot it can get down there and up here. A chargepipe should really be last or until it blows as it's a peace of mind mod IMO. Intarcoolar. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/puppydax/ Previous: 2007 E90 335i \| 2008 E92 335i \| 2009 E82 135i Current: '25 ///M2 Portimao Blue
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05-24-2016, 05:40 PM	#22
Fundguy1 Major General 2043 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	Tune of choice Catless downpipes FMIC Charge pipe DCI Inlets
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