2011 33D

BimmerToolRental · 06-02-2016, 01:03 AM

After purchasing a mini copper 2 years ago, i decided that i had missed being in a BMW, as i have had 5 others previously. A year after that purchase i was ready for that change.

I did a bit of searching via CarMax and found a 535 that i thought i wanted. The interior was beat up and i couldn't decide what i wanted. I saw there was a 335D at the same location and started my research.

After reading all of the horror stories, i did not heed any of the warnings and bought it anyway. 13 months have racked up $14,700 in warranty repair and many many weeks in the repair shop.

The latest saw failing injectors last month and the warranty company refused to replace them all even though they all failed testing and was strongly recommended by them as well. It was at that point that I decided upon recommendation of the same repair shop, that i will take a loss and get rid of this car.

My concern is that i had just hit 70K miles and the trade in offer would exponentially lesson if i put any more miles on it. This was confirmed by the salesman.

If i had decided to keep the car the warranty would run out well before the loan was paid. There is no way i could afford to fix this out of pocket at this rate of failure. The car would also be worth nothing at 100k miles. So i decided to take a loss and trade it in for a 2008 Silverado.

I regretfully say after 6 BMW's that always seemed to need so much maintenance, good riddance. Maybe one day i will circle back and buy an old E36 M3 as a spare car. But for now i am thrilled to have something that just !@#$%& works...

Thanks for all of the help throughout the years. It was a blast!

Persian Whisperjet · 06-02-2016, 06:23 AM

Nice truck!

geost · 06-02-2016, 01:44 PM

Nice truck. I've always been a fan of Silverado's and had an '88 reg cab stepside when I was going to community college. My dad has a 2008 Silverado LTZ just like yours but black. Great truck so far and bought new.

I just got the damn SES light when I was coming back from Disneyland two days ago and I'm dreading to find out how much it's going to cost to fix whatever the problem is. Luckily I haven't had major issues aside from CBU but still....I'm getting kinda scared as I rack up my mileage...just hit 69k yesterday...

BimmerToolRental · 06-03-2016, 09:03 PM

To think that i bought the car with most of these issues present at 53k, actually all of them. It just took time to find a shop to actually troubleshoot. The local BMW dealer was a joke, no troubleshooting skills, only parts swappers. Wouldn't touch anything without a check engine even if you are paying out of pocket.

So sad because it could have been a knock out of the park for BMW. Power & great mileage, but terrible reliability.

But i have to say that the truck is indeed very nice. Comfortable and roomy inside.

tek4tex · 06-04-2016, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerToolRental

To think that i bought the car with most of these issues present at 53k, actually all of them. It just took time to find a shop to actually troubleshoot. The local BMW dealer was a joke, no troubleshooting skills, only parts swappers. Wouldn't touch anything without a check engine even if you are paying out of pocket.

So sad because it could have been a knock out of the park for BMW. Power & great mileage, but terrible reliability.

But i have to say that the truck is indeed very nice. Comfortable and roomy inside.

Too bad you didn't let the guys at BFC have a go at the beginning, especially being that you live in Raleigh. I understand the expense to do deletes and tune would have been out of pocket but you wouldn't have wanted to trade it afterwards.

BimmerToolRental · 06-05-2016, 03:52 AM

I actually did, they performed most of the warranty work actually. But they said it was really a toss up. All these parts had been replaced, but allot more would be expected to fail over the years. Def Tank, SCR, DPF, and remaining injectors.

I was at the point to retain any resale value at all, it was time to get rid of it. On top of the issues the transmission was jerky and annoying. I had this on my old 550 and only replacing the Mechatronic unit myself got rid of the issues. But no check engine, no replace by warranty company.

Thecastle · 06-07-2016, 08:33 AM

Yeah I feel your pain, mine has been in the shop now for 2 months due to an SES, fortunately still repaired under warranty. After 8 visits to the dealer for an SES and PUMA cases on the car, they have been flying the BMW regional master mechanic to my dealer to diagnose and repair the car. All he is doing is replacing the same parts that have already been replaced, again. Results the same, SES. They're probably going to replace my DDE next. Things they've replaced EGR Valve, EGR cooler (3x), Vacuum Hoses, MAF Sensor (4x), Exhaust Pressure Sensor 4x, Both NOX sensors, the 02 sensor. I'm just glad this is all under warranty. The sad part other than a constant SES, is the car runs great! No problems (other than lowish fuel economy). Car has never left me stranded.

Sadly, I believe everything in my emissions system has been replaced at least 1x, including DPF, SCR and had a CBU cleaning all with less than 45K miles. I suspect a large part of the problem is the DDE has taken a shit, and its the only thing other than the wiring that hasn't been replaced yet in the emissions loop. But after this recent repair round, I should have a brandnew emissions system and the common failures should be good for a few hundred miles :-)

These are fragile cars, yeah the valve stem seals don't go (like the V8's), cooling system is solid (unlike all other BMWs), and other typical BMW engine failures don't occur on this car. However, they have a whole new set of problems that the gassers don't have. While an ABC delete would cure many of my problems, it won't fix the host of other issues like oil leaks, harmonic damper, injector failures, occasional turbo failures, loss of low end boost, vacuum leaks, tons of sensor failures. I still like the car, but I think in the last 6 months, its only been on the road 3 weeks. The dealer has really treated me well, and the loaners have been nice.

Puerto Rican 335d · 06-07-2016, 08:38 AM

Most of US that have removed decoded our ecu's and added DPF are not having any issues whatsoever, maybe you should look into this some of you guys , I did mine's and trust me NO PROBLEMOS as of today.

Thecastle · 06-07-2016, 08:44 AM

I'd like to do an ABC delete, but I'd like the dealer to have at least the car in good working order before I mod it. The reason being is if there is something seriously wrong like the DDE is damaged, or there is a true mechanical failure, I'd like to have it fixed on BMWs dime instead of mine. I've had bad luck with cars and modding them with underlying mechanical issues to begin with then adding mods on top.

floydarogers · 06-07-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Thecastle

Yeah I feel your pain, mine has been in the shop now for 2 months due to an SES, fortunately still repaired under warranty. After 8 visits to the dealer for an SES and PUMA cases on the car, they have been flying the BMW regional master mechanic to my dealer to diagnose and repair the car. All he is doing is replacing the same parts that have already been replaced, again. Results the same, SES. They're probably going to replace my DDE next. Things they've replaced EGR Valve, EGR cooler (3x), Vacuum Hoses, MAF Sensor (4x), Exhaust Pressure Sensor 4x, Both NOX sensors, the 02 sensor.

Interesting. Do you know which code keeps returning? Believe it or not, my 4d16 "SCR efficiency" was ultimately fixed by changing the thermostat, which was not letting the car get up to operating temperature which interfered with SCR operation - too cool exhaust. That was after checking the operation of the DEF system and replacing the two NOx sensors thinking that was the problem.

Yozh · 06-07-2016, 08:49 PM

You would think that EGT would still be in line with SCR efficiency even if engine temp is not up to snuff. I suppose it may be looping it back to EGR and it's operations. Glad that you finally found a solution. Amazing how some of these systems are interrelated. I think your discovery is very important for other guys struggling with NOx sensors replacements, where it just needs a thermostat. Floydarogers, I think you should make a separate thread to describe all the details, otherwise it's a breadcrumb trail for someone to figure it out. I am sure more people will be dealing with this. Wish we can get some moderators here to do some stickies.

BB_cuda · 06-07-2016, 09:59 PM

Castle, I thought you were out of warranty a couple months back. Is Advantage Clear Lake fixing things for you on good will?

Back to the conversation guys are having above, what is your coolant temp running at? I have a thermostat that was producing 79C but seems mechanically fine, if you want it (free). If your system is at similar temp, then this suggestion is possibly a waste of time.

Personally, if you're running cool, the new thermostat is only $52 from Husker IIRC. By the way, Husker's web address has changed. See recent thread.

Thecastle · 06-08-2016, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BB_cuda

Castle, I thought you were out of warranty a couple months back. Is Advantage Clear Lake fixing things for you on good will?

Back to the conversation guys are having above, what is your coolant temp running at? I have a thermostat that was producing 79C but seems mechanically fine, if you want it (free). If your system is at similar temp, then this suggestion is possibly a waste of time.

Personally, if you're running cool, the new thermostat is only $52 from Husker IIRC. By the way, Husker's web address has changed. See recent thread.

Yes, they are good-willing the car... Though you could say they never fixed the original issue, that began under warranty. Its the same problem every time, when I take the car in. SES light on; with the following error codes.

4862 - EGR exhaust flow implausibility
48D1 - Exhaust pressure sensor implausibility
3EED - occasionally (some unknown electrical issue)

Basically the car started once again throwing an SES back in January and since they never successfully fixed it they keep good willing the car. So basically the car has been in the shop for probably 3 - 3 1/2 months out of the last 4 months. The car has been in the shop for over 3 weeks at this point, with the BMW regional master mechanic calling the repair shots.

Basically since January, I've had the EGR cooler replaced (2x), 1st it was cracked, second time was mechanic broke it (my assertion, they didn't admit it) durning install (snapped exhaust bolts and broke egr cooler accordion pipe). 2x exhaust pressure sensors, MAF sensor, 02 and both NOx sensors. No joy on fixing the SES. This has all been done under warranty

I appreciate the help, on the low temp. The car seems to be running at normal temps 86-88C, and regens are happening as they should.

I really think at this point the DDE is bad, or the problem is electrical in nature. Car runs fine, so maybe the remove ses light bulb mod? I do note that the turbo oil lines are beginning to leak.

Yes, the CAR has some non-engine mods but mechanically its stock. (suspension, hitch, windows, etc.)

BimmerToolRental · 06-10-2016, 09:52 PM

Just circling back after i read the other comments. 2 Weeks into ownership and happy things just work. No direct injection buildup, no SES lights, No turbos to worry about, No headlight malfunction, No injector failures.

So nice to get into a car that you don't have to worry about what is going to break next week. Now i loved the looks, styling, and ride of a BMW. But i am so happy to have gotten rid of them. They are the worst car mechanically i have ever owned. They are constantly rated as lowest quality and highest cost or ownership / maintenance of any premium car.

Furthermore BMW has diluted the market by making all these sub models to appeal to the masses instead of keeping the pure lines as years of past. I cringe when i think of all the newly developed systems that are computer controlled that will fail when the next cycle of cars hit the out of warranty period. All of the early 2010 vehicles are approaching this.

ideloera · 06-16-2016, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

Most of US that have removed decoded our ecu's and added DPF are not having any issues whatsoever, maybe you should look into this some of you guys , I did mine's and trust me NO PROBLEMOS as of today.

How many miles have you racked up on your D post deletes?

ideloera · 06-16-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerToolRental

I actually did, they performed most of the warranty work actually. But they said it was really a toss up. All these parts had been replaced, but allot more would be expected to fail over the years. Def Tank, SCR, DPF, and remaining injectors.

I was at the point to retain any resale value at all, it was time to get rid of it. On top of the issues the transmission was jerky and annoying. I had this on my old 550 and only replacing the Mechatronic unit myself got rid of the issues. But no check engine, no replace by warranty company.

I had BPC do the deletes for me. With the deletes in place you never have to worry about the DEF tank, SCR, DPF, EGR, etc. Now, all parts do begin to fail given enough time (e.g. the injectors), but you can always buy your parts from FCP Euro, all warrantied for life, even wear items like brake pads, wipers, filters, etc.

Puerto Rican 335d · 06-20-2016, 08:35 AM

ideloera

i did all gizmos at 49k and currently at 70k and still running like a charm

ideloera · 06-21-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d

ideloera

i did all gizmos at 49k and currently at 70k and still running like a charm

Awesome! Seems like the car is pretty rock solid after the deletes. I hope it's that way for me too!

Thecastle · 06-22-2016, 08:24 AM

Well the deletes can make emissions problems better, but the car has other trouble spots than just the emissions equipment. I would just say for a lot of people (some people are lucky), this is a high maintenance car, But if you work on it yourself it can be cost effective. Lets just say this is not an anti-fragile design. Though I would say BMWs in general can be troublesome.

ideloera · 06-22-2016, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Thecastle

Well the deletes can make emissions problems better, but the car has other trouble spots than just the emissions equipment. I would just say for a lot of people (some people are lucky), this is a high maintenance car, and it has significantly lower reliability than a lot of folks are used to. But if you work on it yourself it can be cost effective. Lets just say this is not an anti-fragile design.

Can you elaborate more on the other trouble spots?

All the problems I've had were emissions related and CBU caused by the emission systems. Other than that, the car has been great.

I had all the deletes done, EGR block on top and also lowside by the turbo (EGR and EGR cooler coded out), dpf delete (downpipe installed), SCR removed, Urea tank filled with coolant and distilled water (not spraying).... swirl flap deletes. Dont foresee anything else occurring here. I did have the MAF replaced, but I have a lifetime warranty on it.

I know that the harmonic balancer tends to fail, but that is a once every 50k replacement, not a big deal.

Nadir Point · 06-22-2016, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ideloera

I know that the harmonic balancer tends to fail, but that is a once every 50k replacement, not a big deal.

My HB is as 103k and counting. No question the 335D was a diesel emissions control experiment. But regardless, it is/was a niche car, obviously not for everybody. There is also no question it is one of the absolute very best all-around vehicles on the roads today, for people wiling and able to do the emissions deletes.

Most people just need to drive a mainstream pickup truck or similar type grocery-getter machine and go about their business doing that.

floydarogers · 06-22-2016, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ideloera

Can you elaborate more on the other trouble spots?

Other reported problem areas are:
1) Glow plugs and their controller
2) Melting hoses for turbo pressure management (and DPF management)
3) Leaking turbo oil hoses.
4) Zero-adaptation problems for injectors - although I wonder if some of that is due to CBU. Mine occurred at about 5K miles, however.
5) A few - very few - MAFs have failed.

Really, they've been very reliable. Even the transmission seems solid (knock on wood.)

06-02-2016, 01:03 AM	#1
BimmerToolRental Wannabe Mechanic 8 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 335D Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	2011 33D - 1 Year Review After purchasing a mini copper 2 years ago, i decided that i had missed being in a BMW, as i have had 5 others previously. A year after that purchase i was ready for that change. I did a bit of searching via CarMax and found a 535 that i thought i wanted. The interior was beat up and i couldn't decide what i wanted. I saw there was a 335D at the same location and started my research. After reading all of the horror stories, i did not heed any of the warnings and bought it anyway. 13 months have racked up $14,700 in warranty repair and many many weeks in the repair shop. The latest saw failing injectors last month and the warranty company refused to replace them all even though they all failed testing and was strongly recommended by them as well. It was at that point that I decided upon recommendation of the same repair shop, that i will take a loss and get rid of this car. My concern is that i had just hit 70K miles and the trade in offer would exponentially lesson if i put any more miles on it. This was confirmed by the salesman. If i had decided to keep the car the warranty would run out well before the loan was paid. There is no way i could afford to fix this out of pocket at this rate of failure. The car would also be worth nothing at 100k miles. So i decided to take a loss and trade it in for a 2008 Silverado. I regretfully say after 6 BMW's that always seemed to need so much maintenance, good riddance. Maybe one day i will circle back and buy an old E36 M3 as a spare car. But for now i am thrilled to have something that just !@#$%& works... Thanks for all of the help throughout the years. It was a blast!
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Persian Whisperjet Kind of a Big Deal 171 Rep 857 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Washington, D.C. iTrader: (0)	Nice truck!
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geost Second Lieutenant 43 Rep 281 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M Sport Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: NorCal iTrader: (1)	Nice truck. I've always been a fan of Silverado's and had an '88 reg cab stepside when I was going to community college. My dad has a 2008 Silverado LTZ just like yours but black. Great truck so far and bought new. I just got the damn SES light when I was coming back from Disneyland two days ago and I'm dreading to find out how much it's going to cost to fix whatever the problem is. Luckily I haven't had major issues aside from CBU but still....I'm getting kinda scared as I rack up my mileage...just hit 69k yesterday... __________________
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BimmerToolRental Wannabe Mechanic 8 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 335D Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	To think that i bought the car with most of these issues present at 53k, actually all of them. It just took time to find a shop to actually troubleshoot. The local BMW dealer was a joke, no troubleshooting skills, only parts swappers. Wouldn't touch anything without a check engine even if you are paying out of pocket. So sad because it could have been a knock out of the park for BMW. Power & great mileage, but terrible reliability. But i have to say that the truck is indeed very nice. Comfortable and roomy inside.
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BimmerToolRental Wannabe Mechanic 8 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 335D Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	I actually did, they performed most of the warranty work actually. But they said it was really a toss up. All these parts had been replaced, but allot more would be expected to fail over the years. Def Tank, SCR, DPF, and remaining injectors. I was at the point to retain any resale value at all, it was time to get rid of it. On top of the issues the transmission was jerky and annoying. I had this on my old 550 and only replacing the Mechatronic unit myself got rid of the issues. But no check engine, no replace by warranty company.
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06-07-2016, 08:33 AM	#7
Thecastle Major 370 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 2022 G30 M550i Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW M550i [0.00] 2020 BMW M340i [0.00] 2019 RAM 3500 [0.00] 2000 Ford F450 7.3l ... [0.00]	Yeah I feel your pain, mine has been in the shop now for 2 months due to an SES, fortunately still repaired under warranty. After 8 visits to the dealer for an SES and PUMA cases on the car, they have been flying the BMW regional master mechanic to my dealer to diagnose and repair the car. All he is doing is replacing the same parts that have already been replaced, again. Results the same, SES. They're probably going to replace my DDE next. Things they've replaced EGR Valve, EGR cooler (3x), Vacuum Hoses, MAF Sensor (4x), Exhaust Pressure Sensor 4x, Both NOX sensors, the 02 sensor. I'm just glad this is all under warranty. The sad part other than a constant SES, is the car runs great! No problems (other than lowish fuel economy). Car has never left me stranded. Sadly, I believe everything in my emissions system has been replaced at least 1x, including DPF, SCR and had a CBU cleaning all with less than 45K miles. I suspect a large part of the problem is the DDE has taken a shit, and its the only thing other than the wiring that hasn't been replaced yet in the emissions loop. But after this recent repair round, I should have a brandnew emissions system and the common failures should be good for a few hundred miles :-) These are fragile cars, yeah the valve stem seals don't go (like the V8's), cooling system is solid (unlike all other BMWs), and other typical BMW engine failures don't occur on this car. However, they have a whole new set of problems that the gassers don't have. While an ABC delete would cure many of my problems, it won't fix the host of other issues like oil leaks, harmonic damper, injector failures, occasional turbo failures, loss of low end boost, vacuum leaks, tons of sensor failures. I still like the car, but I think in the last 6 months, its only been on the road 3 weeks. The dealer has really treated me well, and the loaners have been nice. Last edited by Thecastle; 06-07-2016 at 08:39 AM..
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 236 Rep 3,488 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	Most of US that have removed decoded our ecu's and added DPF are not having any issues whatsoever, maybe you should look into this some of you guys , I did mine's and trust me NO PROBLEMOS as of today. __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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Thecastle Major 370 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 2022 G30 M550i Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW M550i [0.00] 2020 BMW M340i [0.00] 2019 RAM 3500 [0.00] 2000 Ford F450 7.3l ... [0.00]	I'd like to do an ABC delete, but I'd like the dealer to have at least the car in good working order before I mod it. The reason being is if there is something seriously wrong like the DDE is damaged, or there is a true mechanical failure, I'd like to have it fixed on BMWs dime instead of mine. I've had bad luck with cars and modding them with underlying mechanical issues to begin with then adding mods on top.
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Yozh Colonel 881 Rep 2,611 Posts Drives: 2011 335d M-Sport Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Wet Coast iTrader: (4)	You would think that EGT would still be in line with SCR efficiency even if engine temp is not up to snuff. I suppose it may be looping it back to EGR and it's operations. Glad that you finally found a solution. Amazing how some of these systems are interrelated. I think your discovery is very important for other guys struggling with NOx sensors replacements, where it just needs a thermostat. Floydarogers, I think you should make a separate thread to describe all the details, otherwise it's a breadcrumb trail for someone to figure it out. I am sure more people will be dealing with this. Wish we can get some moderators here to do some stickies.
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BB_cuda Brigadier General 796 Rep 3,572 Posts Drives: 2011 335D Msport, 2013 X5D Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Clear Lake, Texas iTrader: (0)	Castle, I thought you were out of warranty a couple months back. Is Advantage Clear Lake fixing things for you on good will? Back to the conversation guys are having above, what is your coolant temp running at? I have a thermostat that was producing 79C but seems mechanically fine, if you want it (free). If your system is at similar temp, then this suggestion is possibly a waste of time. Personally, if you're running cool, the new thermostat is only $52 from Husker IIRC. By the way, Husker's web address has changed. See recent thread.
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BimmerToolRental Wannabe Mechanic 8 Rep 54 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 335D Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	Just circling back after i read the other comments. 2 Weeks into ownership and happy things just work. No direct injection buildup, no SES lights, No turbos to worry about, No headlight malfunction, No injector failures. So nice to get into a car that you don't have to worry about what is going to break next week. Now i loved the looks, styling, and ride of a BMW. But i am so happy to have gotten rid of them. They are the worst car mechanically i have ever owned. They are constantly rated as lowest quality and highest cost or ownership / maintenance of any premium car. Furthermore BMW has diluted the market by making all these sub models to appeal to the masses instead of keeping the pure lines as years of past. I cringe when i think of all the newly developed systems that are computer controlled that will fail when the next cycle of cars hit the out of warranty period. All of the early 2010 vehicles are approaching this.
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Puerto Rican 335d Brigadier General 236 Rep 3,488 Posts Drives: Montego Blue 335d Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Puerto Rico(Dominican Republic 03/2017) iTrader: (0)	ideloera i did all gizmos at 49k and currently at 70k and still running like a charm __________________ RENNtech Flash(Lenny Wu)/WAGNER IC Enkei Rajin 18"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD Soft Ride Bike Rack/Brava Synthetic Motor Oil(Made in Puerto Rico)/Meth(in the works)/CBU done w Andrew EGR Race Pipe (whoa! what an animal it is now)
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Thecastle Major 370 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 2022 G30 M550i Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW M550i [0.00] 2020 BMW M340i [0.00] 2019 RAM 3500 [0.00] 2000 Ford F450 7.3l ... [0.00]	Well the deletes can make emissions problems better, but the car has other trouble spots than just the emissions equipment. I would just say for a lot of people (some people are lucky), this is a high maintenance car, But if you work on it yourself it can be cost effective. Lets just say this is not an anti-fragile design. Though I would say BMWs in general can be troublesome.
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