Tick, tick, tick, tick BOOM!

brewnami · 06-30-2016, 03:53 PM

So, last year I posted a thread about this odd ticking noise that began when I had an issue updating the firmware of the JB4. Car was running perfectly fine, I updated the firmware, then it wouldn't start. One of the cranks sounded so awful, it sounded like something ceased and stopped everything immediately. I eventually got it to start long enough to throw a CEL. Got a misfire on a couple cylinders so I replaced two coilpacks. Once that was all set, the car started, but sounded awful and the exhaust smelled weird. With much communication back and forth between Steve from Fuel It and Terry from BMS, I adjusted some settings on the JB4 and took a few logs. Car felt pretty normal, logs and fuel pressure looked normal, except for this awful ticking sound that I couldn't pinpoint. Since all the vitals seemed fine, I just continued to drive it as many people have reported similar ticking sounds with no issue. I regret not taking this in for a closer look. Flash forward about 6-7 months back to January of this year. I was in cruise control, had not even boosted once during the drive and POOF. Cloud of oil everywhere. I pop the hood the next day and saw shards of metal. I was in the process of moving from Austin, TX to Boston, MA and decided I would just take care of it after I moved. Well, I got it in the shop, new donor motor was installed as well as Spec Stage 3+ clutch, Spec SMFW flywheel, new OEM turbos, 335is mounts, new belts and tensioners, oil cooler, VRSF inlets, etc. Just wanted to share the story as well as a few pictures of the carnage.

[u2b]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYTMLKb6o9I[/u2b]

Fundguy1 · 06-30-2016, 03:57 PM

What happened. Doesn't sound like a jb4 issue.

Grand_hustle17 · 06-30-2016, 03:58 PM

Hooooly faawk!!!

brewnami · 06-30-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

What happened. Doesn't sound like a jb4 issue.

Not entirely sure. Looks like a hydrolock, but it happened in cruise control in vac.

1BADM3 · 06-30-2016, 04:01 PM

shiiitttt

Fundguy1 · 06-30-2016, 04:03 PM

You get a new motor yet? I got one with 51k for $3k delivered & 2 yr warranty.

brewnami · 06-30-2016, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

You get a new motor yet? I got one with 51k for $3k delivered & 2 yr warranty.

Long block? Yeah, I got a 66K mile one unfortunately. I only have 49K on the clock, but I couldn't find one for under $5-6K that was a 2009+. I paid $4,200 shipped for mine. Included everything except for the turbos and accessories. But, I went ahead and replaced everything else anyways I guess. Nice find though man, wish I found one for $3K!

06-30-2016, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

You get a new motor yet? I got one with 51k for $3k delivered & 2 yr warranty.

... and then?

ferocity02 · 06-30-2016, 04:22 PM

While I don't have personal experience, SMFW are known to create more noise than DMFW. IT does seem louder than normal, but also not terrible.

brewnami · 06-30-2016, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ferocity02

While I don't have personal experience, SMFW are known to create more noise than DMFW. IT does seem louder than normal, but also not terrible.

Yeah, but three main drawbacks of the DMFW is that it costs twice as much and is much heavier and cannot hold as much power as a SMFW. The cost is some chatter, however.

332ijunkie · 06-30-2016, 04:26 PM

What fuel it stuff did you have??

brewnami · 06-30-2016, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 332ijunkie

What fuel it stuff did you have??

Stage 1 Walbro 255 inline. I was running about an E60 mix at the time.

332ijunkie · 06-30-2016, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brewnami

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Originally Posted by 332ijunkie

What fuel it stuff did you have??

Stage 1 Walbro 255 inline. I was running about an E60 mix at the time.

Hmm. Seems like you somehow hydro locked, bent rod, drove for a while and it finally let go

brewnami · 06-30-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 332ijunkie

Hmm. Seems like you somehow hydro locked, bent rod, drove for a while and it finally let go

The car was running great aside from that ticking sound until the moment this exploded... It seems more sudden than that. When my car is complete, I am going to pull the head off the shattered block and see what kind of damage there is internally. I just don't know how the piston could be stopped so abruptly. I was thinking fuel injector failure or maybe that the timing chain skipped during my initial issue trying to crank the car? I will upload the video I took when that happened.

Mr. Tasty · 06-30-2016, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

You get a new motor yet? I got one with 51k for $3k delivered & 2 yr warranty.

where was that? Seems like a good source to have in case of the inevitable.

brewnami · 06-30-2016, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Tasty

where was that? Seems like a good source to have in case of the inevitable.

+1 I couldn't touch that unless I wanted a motor with 100K on it.

924er · 06-30-2016, 05:28 PM

My n54 ticks all day long

brewnami · 07-01-2016, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by 924er

My n54 ticks all day long

So *did* mine!

07-01-2016, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 332ijunkie

Hmm. Seems like you somehow hydro locked, bent rod, drove for a while and it finally let go

Word.

OP: Pull the injectors and let's have a look see.

mojobmw_e90 · 07-01-2016, 09:51 AM

That knock or ticking is not normal. Idc that people say it's not normal for a car to tick that loud. I have 97k and my engine has 0 ticking. Not even fuel injector ticking

brewnami · 07-01-2016, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mojobmw_e90

That knock or ticking is not normal. Idc that people say it's not normal for a car to tick that loud. I have 97k and my engine has 0 ticking. Not even fuel injector ticking

100% man. Hopefully this post will light a fire under someone's ass to just have it at least checked out before they end up spending over $9,000 in repairs like me.

mojobmw_e90 · 07-01-2016, 11:09 AM

19k?yea I'm burning mine down in the garage this way it can take the garage and car at the same time.

06-30-2016, 03:53 PM	#1
brewnami Major 102 Rep 1,040 Posts Drives: 2009 BMW 335i M Sport Coupe Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (5)	Tick, tick, tick, tick BOOM! So, last year I posted a thread about this odd ticking noise that began when I had an issue updating the firmware of the JB4. Car was running perfectly fine, I updated the firmware, then it wouldn't start. One of the cranks sounded so awful, it sounded like something ceased and stopped everything immediately. I eventually got it to start long enough to throw a CEL. Got a misfire on a couple cylinders so I replaced two coilpacks. Once that was all set, the car started, but sounded awful and the exhaust smelled weird. With much communication back and forth between Steve from Fuel It and Terry from BMS, I adjusted some settings on the JB4 and took a few logs. Car felt pretty normal, logs and fuel pressure looked normal, except for this awful ticking sound that I couldn't pinpoint. Since all the vitals seemed fine, I just continued to drive it as many people have reported similar ticking sounds with no issue. I regret not taking this in for a closer look. Flash forward about 6-7 months back to January of this year. I was in cruise control, had not even boosted once during the drive and POOF. Cloud of oil everywhere. I pop the hood the next day and saw shards of metal. I was in the process of moving from Austin, TX to Boston, MA and decided I would just take care of it after I moved. Well, I got it in the shop, new donor motor was installed as well as Spec Stage 3+ clutch, Spec SMFW flywheel, new OEM turbos, 335is mounts, new belts and tensioners, oil cooler, VRSF inlets, etc. Just wanted to share the story as well as a few pictures of the carnage. [u2b]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYTMLKb6o9I[/u2b] Attached Images __________________ 2009 335i M Sport coupe, BSM with black/aluminum interior, 6MT, JB4 G5, MDH Backend Flash, Walbro 255 inline LPFP, VRSF Inlets, BMS 3" catless DP's, Borla Aggressive catback, ER FMIC, ER charge pipe, Tial BOV, BMS 2.3 gal Meth Kit, BMS Sport Oil Cooler Valve, Ported CDV, RB PCV, Cyba ram air scoops, Status Gruppe SRS coilovers, ECS trailing arms, Forgestar F14 SDC.
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06-30-2016, 03:57 PM	#2
Fundguy1 Major General 2043 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	What happened. Doesn't sound like a jb4 issue.
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Fundguy1 Major General 2043 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	You get a new motor yet? I got one with 51k for $3k delivered & 2 yr warranty.
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ferocity02 Colonel 553 Rep 2,085 Posts Drives: 2013 135is Join Date: May 2014 Location: USA iTrader: (8)	While I don't have personal experience, SMFW are known to create more noise than DMFW. IT does seem louder than normal, but also not terrible. __________________ 2013 135is DCT Carbon Black Metallic
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332ijunkie 65 Rep 174 Posts Drives: 08 335i, 87 M52 E30, M52 E36 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Atlanta GA iTrader: (0)	What fuel it stuff did you have??
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924er Colonel 351 Rep 2,049 Posts Drives: e92 335i '10 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	My n54 ticks all day long __________________ '10 e92 N54 DCI intakes, ER chargepipe, TIAL BOV, VRSF 5in FMIC, BMS Downpipes COBB e30
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mojobmw_e90 Major 382 Rep 1,497 Posts Drives: 2014 E63S Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (3)	That knock or ticking is not normal. Idc that people say it's not normal for a car to tick that loud. I have 97k and my engine has 0 ticking. Not even fuel injector ticking
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mojobmw_e90 Major 382 Rep 1,497 Posts Drives: 2014 E63S Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Chicago IL iTrader: (3)	19k?yea I'm burning mine down in the garage this way it can take the garage and car at the same time.
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