Almost signed the paperwork, but wait, what?

lag · 03-24-2008, 08:12 PM

I had a longer post but it got lost somehow so I'll just give cliffs.

I have muliple quotes for a 335i coupe base w/ only black leather and titanium silver metallic paint being the only options w/ aluminum trim @ $40,990 and one quote for *gasp* $100 less. All seems pretty good. What's your opinion?

The main question is this, one dealer said come look at a demo turn in, 335i coupe, space gray metallic, coral red leather, light popular wood trim, sport package and premium package w/ heated seats w/3500miles.

They wanted ~$45k but I got them to $41,400 and they would give me an aluminum trim set to install myself. I figured deal... we started going through the paperwork and it comes out that it's an 07 (after me multiple times calling it an 08 w/o correction) and I would only get the balance of the warranty that started in Oct 06. I said, "no", and explained that yes it was my assumption that my asking that it would be sold as a *new* car would include the warrenty starting from the date of purchase. They were throwing in a allot of maybe's and if's "we do's" to still sale me the car.

Looking back at the numbers and now realizing it was an 07 I feel it wouldn't have been a good deal and was wise to walk away. I just wanted some more seasoned people to look at it and let me know what you think.

asendoh7 · 03-24-2008, 09:20 PM

I think it's a good thing you walked away. You would be losing 1.5 years of warranty.
Have you considered doing an ED? Since you live in MD, at least the car will arrive earlier than us in the Southwest.

lag · 03-25-2008, 07:23 PM

Thanks for the one reply... now to get the dealer to stop calling me as I planned to order from another one any how.

nm328xi · 03-25-2008, 07:34 PM

Sure sounds like a sleazy bait-and-switch swindle to me. Run, don't walk. Tell them to never call you again.

GreenThree · 03-25-2008, 07:51 PM

Dealership: Fail

Go elsewhere

musc · 03-25-2008, 07:51 PM

If they would CPO it, it may be worth considering, but you are probably better off just ordering it new. It sounds like you don't want many options which is cool. Just order it new, just the way you want it.

John 070 · 03-26-2008, 03:59 AM

I think dealerships, at least where I am, are desparate for sales. I'm getting calls to my cell phone from pesky salespeople--they must be mining BMW's (corp) database.

I haven't tried because I'm not in the market, but these desparate salespeople remind me of realtors when real estate first turned south. All of a sudden they were trying to follow-up and see "if there's anything I need." Funny they didn't do that when they were collecting their 30k commision for doing next to nothing!

Anyway, if I were in the market, I'd offer 3500 off list just to see what happened. If they took it right away, I'd shop around and bump the discount up. If not, I'd shop around and lower it. It is a buyer's market so no need to feel pressured and not shop around imho.

IrvRobinson · 03-26-2008, 08:45 AM

You really should try and do a euro delivery,get a brand new car exactly how you want it,save a healthy amount of money and drive your car on the roads it was built for.

lag · 03-26-2008, 05:10 PM

Never really thought about ED due to having been to germany a few times and I know I'm going back next year a few more times.

The dealer called me and left a message, I called them back and said it's not going to happen. I'm ordering from another dealer next Tuesday, the person I've been talking to is out for medical reasons and I told her I'd rather just go to her. Reason being, out of the dealers I talked to she was the first one to not BS me in the least and give me what *seems* to be the best price I'm going to get from talking to people and having to negotiate other dealers to the same price and they wouldn't/"couldn't go lower.

Too the dealer is the only one that has actually been recommended to me, Towson BMW of Maryland.

BTW, the dealer I was talking about was Russel... I decided to give them a chance after never having a good experience with them from their subaru sells staff, service, or body shop. The sells person I was working with is IMO top notch... he just needs to go some where else. And I should have known better myself than to even give them a shot, but at least I know that no part of Russel is worth doing business with.

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lag Private 3 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 1993 e36 325i: 2008 e92 335i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Almost signed the paperwork, but wait, what? I had a longer post but it got lost somehow so I'll just give cliffs. I have muliple quotes for a 335i coupe base w/ only black leather and titanium silver metallic paint being the only options w/ aluminum trim @ $40,990 and one quote for gasp $100 less. All seems pretty good. What's your opinion? The main question is this, one dealer said come look at a demo turn in, 335i coupe, space gray metallic, coral red leather, light popular wood trim, sport package and premium package w/ heated seats w/3500miles. They wanted ~$45k but I got them to $41,400 and they would give me an aluminum trim set to install myself. I figured deal... we started going through the paperwork and it comes out that it's an 07 (after me multiple times calling it an 08 w/o correction) and I would only get the balance of the warranty that started in Oct 06. I said, "no", and explained that yes it was my assumption that my asking that it would be sold as a new car would include the warrenty starting from the date of purchase. They were throwing in a allot of maybe's and if's "we do's" to still sale me the car. Looking back at the numbers and now realizing it was an 07 I feel it wouldn't have been a good deal and was wise to walk away. I just wanted some more seasoned people to look at it and let me know what you think.
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asendoh7 Private First Class 2 Rep 159 Posts Drives: 08 Cayman S (335i totalled) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dallas iTrader: (0)	I think it's a good thing you walked away. You would be losing 1.5 years of warranty. Have you considered doing an ED? Since you live in MD, at least the car will arrive earlier than us in the Southwest.
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John 070 Lieutenant General 1755 Rep 14,825 Posts Drives: 335i cpe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ZSP/ZPP/ZCW iTrader: (0)	I think dealerships, at least where I am, are desparate for sales. I'm getting calls to my cell phone from pesky salespeople--they must be mining BMW's (corp) database. I haven't tried because I'm not in the market, but these desparate salespeople remind me of realtors when real estate first turned south. All of a sudden they were trying to follow-up and see "if there's anything I need." Funny they didn't do that when they were collecting their 30k commision for doing next to nothing! Anyway, if I were in the market, I'd offer 3500 off list just to see what happened. If they took it right away, I'd shop around and bump the discount up. If not, I'd shop around and lower it. It is a buyer's market so no need to feel pressured and not shop around imho.
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lag Private 3 Rep 51 Posts Drives: 1993 e36 325i: 2008 e92 335i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Never really thought about ED due to having been to germany a few times and I know I'm going back next year a few more times. The dealer called me and left a message, I called them back and said it's not going to happen. I'm ordering from another dealer next Tuesday, the person I've been talking to is out for medical reasons and I told her I'd rather just go to her. Reason being, out of the dealers I talked to she was the first one to not BS me in the least and give me what seems to be the best price I'm going to get from talking to people and having to negotiate other dealers to the same price and they wouldn't/"couldn't go lower. Too the dealer is the only one that has actually been recommended to me, Towson BMW of Maryland. BTW, the dealer I was talking about was Russel... I decided to give them a chance after never having a good experience with them from their subaru sells staff, service, or body shop. The sells person I was working with is IMO top notch... he just needs to go some where else. And I should have known better myself than to even give them a shot, but at least I know that no part of Russel is worth doing business with.
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