335i turbo same a bugatti Veyron

5soko · 04-09-2008, 08:39 PM

So stopped by Porsche, test drove a GT3 RS

dont ask how. anyways i spoke with the Tech there and he hinted me that my 335i has the same Mitsubishi turbos that are in the Bugatti. Even though the Bugatti has 4 of them, he said they are the same size and all.
Also interesting, our turbos are made in the Netherlands

Not sure how much of it is true but this is what i was told.

satinghostrider · 04-09-2008, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

So stopped by Porsche, test drove a GT3 RS

dont ask how. anyways i spoke with the Tech there and he hinted me that my 335i has the same Mitsubishi turbos that are in the Bugatti. Even though the Bugatti has 4 of them, he said they are the same size and all.
Also interesting, our turbos are made in the Netherlands

Not sure how much of it is true but this is what i was told.

So we are technically half as fast as the bugatti?

Sam12345 · 04-09-2008, 09:08 PM

lol uhm yes in a way. Buggatti 0-60 in 2.6?? Bmw 335 0-60 in 5.2 (slow average, stock)....5.2 divided by 2...2.6!! so yes! we are half the speed!!!!!!!!!!! hahaha.

thegeneral101 · 04-09-2008, 09:38 PM

is this confirmed? that would be pretty cool

CanadianTSi · 04-09-2008, 09:57 PM

I don't see how even 4 of those tiny turbo's can flow enough air for 1000hp.

RRGOO7 · 04-09-2008, 09:59 PM

deff nott

daninsyd · 04-09-2008, 10:01 PM

that's all the proof i need!!

ArmyBimmerDude · 04-09-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianTSi

I don't see how even 4 of those tiny turbo's can flow enough air for 1000hp.

+1

Tiago@VRSF · 04-09-2008, 10:12 PM

The turbos are made in Mitsubishi Heavy Industries in Japan.

satinghostrider · 04-09-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianTSi

I don't see how even 4 of those tiny turbo's can flow enough air for 1000hp.

IF you read deeply on the Bugatti, you will realise most of the power came from the aerodynamics of the body. At higher speeds, the body will tilt itself at a certain angle to give more power to battle the resistance of air.

Mattscott · 04-09-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by elmariachi

IF you read deeply on the Bugatti, you will realise most of the power came from the aerodynamics of the body. At higher speeds, the body will tilt itself at a certain angle to give more power to battle the resistance of air.

Drag is a son of a bitch.

jcarlucci1 · 04-09-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elmariachi

IF you read deeply on the Bugatti, you will realise most of the power came from the aerodynamics of the body. At higher speeds, the body will tilt itself at a certain angle to give more power to battle the resistance of air.

Uh..that makes no sense...the car is more powerful because of its aerodynamics?

McLuVan · 04-09-2008, 10:43 PM

maybe true

they ARE small....

hl0m4n · 04-09-2008, 10:46 PM

wow that would be really cool if it is...

5soko · 04-09-2008, 10:51 PM

all i know the company is mitsubishi heavy industries, but it is the european location that actually make the turbos in our car, MEEE i think it called. its located in the nertherlands.

like i siad, im not sure 100% this is what the guy told me, thats why im asking.

dhan · 04-09-2008, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jcarlucci1

Uh..that makes no sense...the car is more powerful because of its aerodynamics?

drag force is proportional to velocity squared so at high speeds, the coefficient of drag becomes a huge, huge issue.

the car might not be "more powerful" but can achieve higher speeds more efficiently and quickly.

ever tried riding a bike on a windy day? man that sucks.

SoFlo335 · 04-09-2008, 10:59 PM

I dont think they are the same turbos. Considering that Bugatti and VW are in the same family, and VW and Audi are also in the same family, and the old rs6 had a 4.2L V8 TT, then I am almost positive that the Bugatti has two of those engines, with some modifications obviously.

Also, aerodynamics does play a key to the Bugatti's speed, but it doesnt make it more powerful. It just simply doesnt displace as much air as a regular car, and the lower it is, the less air it will disturb.

Dascamel · 04-09-2008, 11:00 PM

All about aerodynamics, absolutely nothing to do with 1000 hp.... Anyway, very hard to believe they would put midget turbos in when trying to peak hp. No offense intended for the vertically challanged.

SoFlo335 · 04-09-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dascamel

All about aerodynamics, absolutely nothing to do with 1000 hp.... Anyway, very hard to believe they would put midget turbos in when trying to peak hp. No offense intended for the vertically challanged.

LOL, what? Its not one or the other (power, aero.). To reach the speeds that the Veyron gets to, you need both, meaning that they work in conjunction. Both are equally important. One huge flaw that I see with this car is that it is heavy and large in size. It weighs roughly 2 tons, and IDK if any of you have seen it in person, but it is a large car. If they made the car much lighter, it wouldnt need such a large engine to reach the performance of the current car.

Dascamel · 04-09-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SoFlo335

LOL, what? Its not one or the other (power, aero.). To reach the speeds that the Veyron gets to, you need both, meaning that they work in conjunction. Both are equally important. One huge flaw that I see with this car is that it is heavy and large in size. It weighs roughly 2 tons, and IDK if any of you have seen it in person, but it is a large car. If they made the car much lighter, it wouldnt need such a large engine to reach the performance of the current car.

I was joking....

SoFlo335 · 04-09-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dascamel

I was joking....

A sarcastic smiley wouldve helped. Specially because there are so many morons in this forum, and with the statement you made, you didnt stand out much. Anyways, my bad

bdkevoIX · 04-09-2008, 11:10 PM

1000 hp is 1000 hp.

The horsepower itself has nothing to do with aerodynamics.

The top speed however is highly governed by both factors + a few others.

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SoFlo335 Lieutenant 33 Rep 511 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami iTrader: (1)	I dont think they are the same turbos. Considering that Bugatti and VW are in the same family, and VW and Audi are also in the same family, and the old rs6 had a 4.2L V8 TT, then I am almost positive that the Bugatti has two of those engines, with some modifications obviously. Also, aerodynamics does play a key to the Bugatti's speed, but it doesnt make it more powerful. It just simply doesnt displace as much air as a regular car, and the lower it is, the less air it will disturb.
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