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      12-31-2016, 03:47 PM   #1
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Wiring/harness for DRL AE's

Hey guys. I'm trying to figure out the wiring for my headlight and the car harness.

Stock lights are halogen, I changed them to aftermarket xenons with angel eyes. No errors, working well so far.

I want to have just the AE come on as DRL but I'm going to have to do a bit of wiring to make it work, looking for someone with expertise in the matter.

If I turn the DRL on through the obc stalk, the high beams light up at reduced power. That's a blue wire with brown stripe on my connector.

If I tap this line into the AE positive lead, that should in theory power the AE as DRL.

But, I'm worried when the auto headlight sensor takes over and turns on the headlights, the DRL will turn off, and then they won't light at all because the only power is coming from the DRL lead and not the main headlight power?

Anyone have a clue? I emailed someone that makes a harness, but that's only for stock xenon lights.

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This functionality can be coded without the need to tap into another power source.

Basically you change the settings so instead of DRL_H, it becomes DRL_S (angel eyes)

Find someone local to code this for you. I believe it works with 2007's and above
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This functionality can be coded without the need to tap into another power source.

Basically you change the settings so instead of DRL_H, it becomes DRL_S (angel eyes)

Find someone local to code this for you. I believe it works with 2007's and above
Even for custom wired headlights?
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This functionality can be coded without the need to tap into another power source.

Basically you change the settings so instead of DRL_H, it becomes DRL_S (angel eyes)

Find someone local to code this for you. I believe it works with 2007's and above
Damn it. This can't be done on '06s? I've been considering doing the same thing on mine once I upgrade my AE bulbs.
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Even for custom wired headlights?
Yup. I coded it for my friend with DEPOs. He had a 2008 prelci sedan.
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Yup. I coded it for my friend with DEPOs. He had a 2008 prelci sedan.
Can this be coded on all pre-LCI cars?
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I think it is dependent on years. IIRC, 2007+ can be coded. I actually bought a wiring kit to do mine prior to knowing it could be coded (Vista Angel Eye DRL / Daeos Angel Eye DRL Relay Harness). I paid $40 +shipping for it. I will sell it to you for $40 shipped if you are interested.

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I think it is dependent on years. IIRC, 2007+ can be coded. I actually bought a wiring kit to do mine prior to knowing it could be coded. I paid $40 +shipping for it. I will sell it to you for $40 shipped if you are interested.
I'm just trying to understand is between the '06 and '07+ is that allows the coding to be done on the '07+'s.
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Did the FRM module change between model years which is what allowed the coding to work?
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Did the FRM module change between model years which is what allowed the coding to work?
No idea. That's my question, too.
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Did the FRM module change between model years which is what allowed the coding to work?
Yes. 06 was FRM1 and then 07 changed to FRM2. You must use a harness on 06 cars or upgrade to FRM2/3.
I used the Daeos/Vista harness on my 06 with aftermarket (mars/rolling gears) headlights.
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FRM2 allows the coding of DRL AE. FRM2 came with 08+ cars
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Damn it. This can't be done on '06s? I've been considering doing the same thing on mine once I upgrade my AE bulbs.
I wonder...I can code my brights to come on as DL (dim). There should be some way to wire the AE to take their place. This is on my '06 330i.
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Yes. 06 was FRM1 and then 07 changed to FRM2. You must use a harness on 06 cars or upgrade to FRM2/3.
I used the Daeos/Vista harness on my 06 with aftermarket (mars/rolling gears) headlights.
Any errors with the harness? Work ok?
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Any errors with the harness? Work ok?
No errors at all, works great. Just make sure to follow the directions and you should be fine. No coding necessary.
The angel eyes will be on in all headlight switch modes, including off. The angel eyes will stay on for about 5 seconds after the car is shut off. Sometimes they will stay on longer, but it's not an issue.

One thing is that the taps provided are a little small for the some headlight side of the wiring because it's a thicker gauge. It would be wise to pick up some bigger taps.
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Damn it. This can't be done on '06s? I've been considering doing the same thing on mine once I upgrade my AE bulbs.
I wonder...I can code my brights to come on as DL (dim). There should be some way to wire the AE to take their place. This is on my '06 330i.
That's the route I was going to take, but I'm thinking that they won't power on when the headlights turn on in auto mode because they are not powered from the DRL power. I haven't experimented with wiring yet to see if that lead can be relay controlled. I may just go the coding route if people have done it with success.
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That's the route I was going to take, but I'm thinking that they won't power on when the headlights turn on in auto mode because they are not powered from the DRL power. I haven't experimented with wiring yet to see if that lead can be relay controlled. I may just go the coding route if people have done it with success.
What year is your car?

For anyone else wondering, you cannot code your running lights to be angel eyes only if you have an '06 car, unless you upgrade your FRM1 to FRM2/3.

The only other way, aside from upgrading your FRM, is to use the Daeos/Vista harness or create your own harness. It has to be set up so the angel eyes are powered all the time through the harness, except when the low beams are turned on.
The harness works by tapping power from an accessory wire in the DME, which feeds into a relay. Out of that relay comes a ground, 2 powers (1 for each headlight angel eyes), and a low beam sensor wire (taps into a low beam power wire in the headlight harness). The angel eyes have constant power from the harness except when the relay detects the low beams are powered on, which cuts power from the harness and the angel eyes are powered normally by the car.
The angel eyes will be on all the time, in all light modes, including off.
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FRM2 came in mid year 2007s.

I've also coded very early 2007 builds with FRM to have AE as DRLs. This is very rare and have only seen/coded it once on.

You can tap off the cig lighter circuit and wire directly off the FRM harness so you don't have to run wiring through the firewall. That's what I did with mine. Also added a switch inline so I can turn them off if I need too. I have custom made rings that draw 4 amps of power. So when I only have ignition switched, I typically turn them off
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That's the route I was going to take, but I'm thinking that they won't power on when the headlights turn on in auto mode because they are not powered from the DRL power. I haven't experimented with wiring yet to see if that lead can be relay controlled. I may just go the coding route if people have done it with success.
What year is your car?

For anyone else wondering, you cannot code your running lights to be angel eyes only if you have an '06 car, unless you upgrade your FRM1 to FRM2/3.

The only other way, aside from upgrading your FRM, is to use the Daeos/Vista harness or create your own harness. It has to be set up so the angel eyes are powered all the time through the harness, except when the low beams are turned on.
The harness works by tapping power from an accessory wire in the DME, which feeds into a relay. Out of that relay comes a ground, 2 powers (1 for each headlight angel eyes), and a low beam sensor wire (taps into a low beam power wire in the headlight harness). The angel eyes have constant power from the harness except when the relay detects the low beams are powered on, which cuts power from the harness and the angel eyes are powered normally by the car.
The angel eyes will be on all the time, in all light modes, including off.
6/07 I have aftermarket headlights, not stock (not sure if you noticed)
I cracked open my stock lights last night, I'm gonna look into adding the newer style AE and some Morimoto pj's myself.

I was looking at HID kits last night and saw the one available from Bimmian, the ballast looks super small, like It can be hid (npi lol) very easily.
Anyone try them out yet?
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6/07 I have aftermarket headlights, not stock (not sure if you noticed)
I cracked open my stock lights last night, I'm gonna look into adding the newer style AE and some Morimoto pj's myself.

I was looking at HID kits last night and saw the one available from Bimmian, the ballast looks super small, like It can be hid (npi lol) very easily.
Anyone try them out yet?
I have aftermarket headlights as well and am an 06/07 build 330i.
This is where I bought my harness.
You will not be able to code angel eyes only as DRL unless you upgrade your FRM.
I can't comment on HID kits but I do use OPT7 LED bulbs in my rolling gears headlights. Work great and seem to be comparable light output to HID kits (discussed in the rolling gears headlights thread) without the cons of HIDs.
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6/07 I have aftermarket headlights, not stock (not sure if you noticed)
I cracked open my stock lights last night, I'm gonna look into adding the newer style AE and some Morimoto pj's myself.

I was looking at HID kits last night and saw the one available from Bimmian, the ballast looks super small, like It can be hid (npi lol) very easily.
Anyone try them out yet?
I have aftermarket headlights as well and am an 06/07 build 330i.
This is where I bought my harness.
You will not be able to code angel eyes only as DRL unless you upgrade your FRM.
I can't comment on HID kits but I do use OPT7 LED bulbs in my rolling gears headlights. Work great and seem to be comparable light output to HID kits (discussed in the rolling gears headlights thread) without the cons of HIDs.
I emailed them for info and they said the harness is only for stock xenons, so I was gonna wire it myself.

Doing a little poking around with the multimeter and it looks like the DRL lead isn't a high enough voltage to run them, I'm not even sure that could trigger a relay to be honest. I'll have to tap a relay off of something that turns on with the unlock/ignition
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I emailed them for info and they said the harness is only for stock xenons, so I was gonna wire it myself.

Doing a little poking around with the multimeter and it looks like the DRL lead isn't a high enough voltage to run them, I'm not even sure that could trigger a relay to be honest. I'll have to tap a relay off of something that turns on with the unlock/ignition
I'm running that harness on these headlights.
There's no reason that it shouldn't work on any set of headlights. All it does is provide power to the angel eyes and sense when the low beams are on by tapping the low beam power. Your best option is to get the harness.
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