ZF automatic gearbox oil change

CYL · 03-15-2017, 11:08 AM

What ZF says about "lifetime" transmission fluid
https://www.facebook.com/zfgroup.glo...6323056076988/

peterparker · 03-15-2017, 11:14 AM

I think thats just a marketing slogan.

I think any transmission oil should be changed between 40,000 to 60,000 miles.

Delta0311 · 03-15-2017, 11:18 AM

Change at 60k. Auto tranny:
drain tranny
replace pan\filter
replace fluid

Edit. There is a little rubber sleeve there called a mechatronic sleeve. It can fail.. So since you already dropped the pan you might as well repalce it too. It is a $18 part.

anjuna · 03-15-2017, 11:19 AM

did either of you even watch the video?

It states clearly to change at 100,000km and describes exactly how to change it.

Delta0311 · 03-15-2017, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anjuna

did either of you even watch the video?

It states clearly to change at 100,000km and describes exactly how to change it.

Yup like I said change it at 60k miles
100,000km is 62k miles

Ken Oath · 03-15-2017, 11:53 AM

Entschuldigen, bitte!

1:24 "Oil contains quite a lot of water"

That statement is fabricated.

All water is removed from Crude using de-emulsifying agents during processing.
As water is a polar molecule and crude is non polar they cannot be dissolved.

MJ80. · 03-15-2017, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta0311

Yup like I said change it at 60k miles
100,000km is 62k miles

You said 60k not 60k miles and this is the Australian section so we are operating in kms.

1275 · 03-15-2017, 10:49 PM

I've just bought ZF fluid, new pan/filter and mech. Sleeve and plan to do this in the next couple of weeks, if anyone is keen to join up and do them together?

Now that MHD has trans. Temp I figure I can use that to get the close to correct fill temp. Is there any reason why that would not work?

I got pan from clickable, zf fluid from ebay and mech sleeve from FCP. Seemed to be the best prices I could find.

I'm at 120,000 so think I'm well and truly due...

Trev88 · 03-15-2017, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1275

I've just bought ZF fluid, new pan/filter and mech. Sleeve and plan to do this in the next couple of weeks, if anyone is keen to join up and do them together?

Now that MHD has trans. Temp I figure I can use that to get the close to correct fill temp. Is there any reason why that would not work?

I got pan from clickable, zf fluid from ebay and mech sleeve from FCP. Seemed to be the best prices I could find.

I'm at 120,000 so think I'm well and truly due...

You'll feel the change after u do it

smooth

1275 · 03-15-2017, 11:02 PM

Awesome. Not that it isn't smooth now but there is the odd occasion where it gets caught out.

I will run it for a few days before resetting adaptations just so I can feel the difference from oil change alone.

Has anyone looked in to xHP? Might be worth investigating when I have changed the oil.

Would you guys think an oil sample analysis is worthwhile on the trans?

CYL · 03-15-2017, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1275

I've just bought ZF fluid, new pan/filter and mech. Sleeve and plan to do this in the next couple of weeks, if anyone is keen to join up and do them together?

Now that MHD has trans. Temp I figure I can use that to get the close to correct fill temp. Is there any reason why that would not work?

I got pan from clickable, zf fluid from ebay and mech sleeve from FCP. Seemed to be the best prices I could find.

I'm at 120,000 so think I'm well and truly due...

Just wonder why some people recommend Motul ATF instead of ZF one?
Are Motul fluids such as brake fluid, ATF a more superior product than BMW ones?

1275 · 03-16-2017, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CYL

Just wonder why some people recommend Motul ATF instead of ZF one?
Are Motul fluids such as brake fluid, ATF a more superior product than BMW ones?

I really don't know the answer to that, but ZF recommends ZF oil (surprise surprise) and I don't know enough to make an educated decision about using an alternative.

As it is done so infrequently I was happy to get the ZF oil. 8L for $300.

///ASN · 03-16-2017, 12:27 AM

Found the oil pan on clickable at $140 (For 6HP19Z only)
Realoem.com says GA6HP19Z but the actual photo of the stamp taken by Coupes33 says 6HP21?
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=335i+gearbox

You may also consider changing the Automatic Transmission Sealing Sleeve?
https://clickableautomotive.com.au/b...347588725.html

Also did a quick search and found 2 DIY for the ATF:
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=335i+gearbox
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777083

TIRA · 03-16-2017, 12:41 AM

I just did this last week, cost me $500 including labour here in Melbourne.

Did the whole transmission fluid kit replacement (pan + gasket + oil) + Sealing Sleeve!

///ASN · 03-16-2017, 12:42 AM

Is this the only mechatronic sleeve required though?
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...er-24347588724

Ken Oath · 03-16-2017, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///ASN

Is this the only mechatronic sleeve required though?
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...er-24347588724

That is the bridging seal. The provided link is for a mechatronic sleeve.
Good opportunity to change both.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw...e-050121627201

NapsterAU · 03-16-2017, 02:40 AM

Coming up to 190k and have not done my trans fluid :O

bradsm87 · 03-16-2017, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1275

Has anyone looked in to xHP? Might be worth investigating when I have changed the oil.

OTS maps for N54/N55 will not be available for at least another month. I'm working on my own TCU tune. I only got to do one revision because I had to send my diff away for warranty work but even with the initial revision, the shifts were way better.

Trev88 · 03-16-2017, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TIRA

I just did this last week, cost me $500 including labour here in Melbourne.

Did the whole transmission fluid kit replacement (pan + gasket + oil) + Sealing Sleeve!

Wow that's cheap paid $900 cash for it >.<

1275 · 03-16-2017, 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bradsm87

OTS maps for N54/N55 will not be available for at least another month. I'm working on my own TCU tune. I only got to do one revision because I had to send my diff away for warranty work but even with the initial revision, the shifts were way better.

That is great news. I will have to do some reading but would like to learn about making your own tune. Very interesting for sure.

Thanks for the info mate.

Craig

Socket · 03-16-2017, 03:45 AM

I need to do this. Is it a hard DIY?

vtl · 03-16-2017, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socket

I need to do this. Is it a hard DIY?

No point shelling out the money for the service if you plan on ditching the trans. Not too hard of a diy though

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Delta0311 Banned 7485 Rep 10,119 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 335xi E92 2016 228xi Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ iTrader: (1)	Change at 60k. Auto tranny: drain tranny replace pan\filter replace fluid Edit. There is a little rubber sleeve there called a mechatronic sleeve. It can fail.. So since you already dropped the pan you might as well repalce it too. It is a $18 part.
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Ken Oath Lieutenant 114 Rep 410 Posts Drives: 2012 E92 330d Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Perth, Australia iTrader: (0)	Entschuldigen, bitte! 1:24 "Oil contains quite a lot of water" That statement is fabricated. All water is removed from Crude using de-emulsifying agents during processing. As water is a polar molecule and crude is non polar they cannot be dissolved.
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1275 Private First Class 63 Rep 137 Posts Drives: 335i Touring Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	I've just bought ZF fluid, new pan/filter and mech. Sleeve and plan to do this in the next couple of weeks, if anyone is keen to join up and do them together? Now that MHD has trans. Temp I figure I can use that to get the close to correct fill temp. Is there any reason why that would not work? I got pan from clickable, zf fluid from ebay and mech sleeve from FCP. Seemed to be the best prices I could find. I'm at 120,000 so think I'm well and truly due...
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1275 Private First Class 63 Rep 137 Posts Drives: 335i Touring Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Awesome. Not that it isn't smooth now but there is the odd occasion where it gets caught out. I will run it for a few days before resetting adaptations just so I can feel the difference from oil change alone. Has anyone looked in to xHP? Might be worth investigating when I have changed the oil. Would you guys think an oil sample analysis is worthwhile on the trans?
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///ASN Second Lieutenant 26 Rep 202 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Perth iTrader: (0)	Found the oil pan on clickable at $140 (For 6HP19Z only) Realoem.com says GA6HP19Z but the actual photo of the stamp taken by Coupes33 says 6HP21? http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=335i+gearbox You may also consider changing the Automatic Transmission Sealing Sleeve? https://clickableautomotive.com.au/b...347588725.html Also did a quick search and found 2 DIY for the ATF: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...t=335i+gearbox http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=777083
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