Evo magazine's stock 335i's turbo failure.

V1.47fan · 04-26-2008, 05:13 PM

"After i reported the saga,three other 335i owners emailed to say they'd they also had turbo failures."

It seems like a lot of people with stock boost level are also having problems with the turbos,wastegate actuators etc.

SteelTorque · 04-26-2008, 05:16 PM

meh...here and there shit can happen with any car, any manufacturer...nothing is perfect...

picus · 04-26-2008, 05:19 PM

Mags like drama. 10 turbos out of how many cars with the N54? Even if only 10,000 cars worldwide have that engine that's still less less than a 0.01% failure rate.

drphil71 · 04-26-2008, 05:20 PM

Is it new's that all car's dont run flawlessly forever?

V1.47fan · 04-26-2008, 05:30 PM

Some of you missed the point of this thread.If the guy had PRocede v2,some would've blamed the problem on the mod.

Amir87 · 04-26-2008, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Some of you missed the point of this thread.If the guy had PRocede v2,some would've blamed the problem on the mod.

+1

The point is that even stock 335's are having problems with wastegate ticking and or turbo failures.

I had blown a turbo on my STi, and ever since, I've been over cautious regarding upping the boost and such.

OpenFlash · 04-26-2008, 05:48 PM

The internet is so funny. Back in the day, when fuel pumps started to fail, so many people blamed the PROcede (since there wasn't anything else out there at the time.) Now, it's a known problem and even a recall.

Now a few cars are having wastegate/turbo issues. If it wasn't for the fact its happening to stock cars too, there would be fingers pointing to tuning efforts. The fact is, this isn't a low volume niche car like the Evo, Sti, Supra, RX-7tt, 300ZXtt, etc,. BMW makes more of these cars in 1 month than probably all of those cars put together, in any 1 full year. So we are going to see what seems to be many failures. And due to the volumes we are talking about, these many instances are statistically insignificant. Just be happy that we are dealing with BMW, a company that has the infrastructure and money to solve the problem and take care of their customers.

Shiv

Winston Wolf · 04-26-2008, 05:58 PM

Whether or not a piggyback actually caused the failure.....well, at least BMW would have blamed it on the Procede. Get's them out of spending the money from the warranty fund......

stressdoc · 04-26-2008, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

.. Just be happy that we are dealing with BMW, a company that has the infrastructure and money to solve the problem and take care of their customers.
Shiv

+10^googal

Bubbles · 04-26-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The internet is so funny. Back in the day, when fuel pumps started to fail, so many people blamed the PROcede (since there wasn't anything else out there at the time. Now, it's a known problem and even a recall.

Now a few cars are having wastegate/turbo issues. If it wasn't for the fact its happening to stock cars too, there would be fingers pointing to tuning efforts. The fact is, this isn't a low volume niche car like the Evo, Sti, Supra, RX-7tt, 300ZXtt, etc,. BMW makes more of these cars in 1 month than probably all of those cars put together, in any 1 full year. So we are going to see what seems to be many failures. And due to the volumes we are talking about, these many instances are statistically insignificant. Just be happy that we are dealing with BMW, a company that has the infrastructure and money to solve the problem and take care of their customers.

Shiv

But as with any "for-profit" company, if BMW can point the finger at a "tune" to reduce warranty costs (tune caused problem) then you should expect BMW to do so.

OpenFlash · 04-26-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

But as with any "for-profit" company, if BMW can point the finger at a "tune" to reduce warranty costs (tune caused problem) then you should expect BMW to do so.

If that is a concern, then the consumer should pick tunes that they can't point fingers to.

Shiv

asdflkijd · 04-26-2008, 06:10 PM

K, they can dream about the 335i and say whatever they want about the car while I'm out enjoying the car and having the time of my life!

Neema · 04-26-2008, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by asdflkijd

K, they can dream about the 335i and say whatever they want about the car while I'm out enjoying the car and having the time of my life!

No, not when everythings failing. . . .

asdflkijd · 04-26-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Boost_Nation

No, not when everythings failing. . . .

I suppose... but its not EVERYONE's cars that are failing, just like with the HPFP.. 10 is a very small number compared to how many 335i's are out in the market now, and 135i's, and 535i's.. I just see it pointless to mourn about something so little... also, atleast BMW is willing to fix the problem under warranty, granted that were havn't tampered with the cars

Tuned335i · 04-27-2008, 04:05 AM

Right, but when just as many (or more) parts are failing on stock cars as modded, for BMW to claim that the mods cause the failure is just as unethical as people trying to hide their mods from BMW when the same part fails.

Do you guys see how absurd this is? The fact is that the part (take the HPFP for example) fails in service on a lot of cars, modded or not. That's it. There's no conspiracy.

V1.47fan · 04-27-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by asdflkijd

I suppose... but its not EVERYONE's cars that are failing, just like with the HPFP.. 10 is a very small number compared to how many 335i's are out in the market now, and 135i's, and 535i's.. I just see it pointless to mourn about something so little... also, atleast BMW is willing to fix the problem under warranty, granted that were havn't tampered with the cars

That's BMW Great Britain alone 10 cases of turbos replaced and 3 cases of actuators replaced,there aren't that many 335i's in Britain like in the states more 320i's,320d's.And a lot of the 335i's don't have high mileage like in the states yet and also sometimes BMW would buy back some problem cars and make customers sign papers to keep quiet for even a better deal.And the majority of the 335i don't push their cars hard,a car magazine would...
How many times BMW shops pretend like there's nothing wrong with a car when you have a problem?
It's pretty naive to believe their numbers..

hotrod2448 · 04-27-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuned335i

Right, but when just as many (or more) parts are failing on stock cars as modded, for BMW to claim that the mods cause the failure is just as unethical as people trying to hide their mods from BMW when the same part fails.

Do you guys see how absurd this is? The fact is that the part (take the HPFP for example) fails in service on a lot of cars, modded or not. That's it. There's no conspiracy.

No, there has to be a conspiracy. We need drama. That's what the internet is for....that and porn.

V1.47fan · 04-27-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by hotrod2448

No, there has to be a conspiracy. We need drama. That's what the internet is for....that and porn.

And to check how well my AAPL stocks I bought at $112.00 a share in Feb. are doing...

DrewKo · 04-28-2008, 11:01 AM

I'm right there with ya at 127. When will you sell?

purplewidow · 04-28-2008, 01:13 PM

omg here we go again more people blowing it out of proportion..you know those 3 people are probably all of the turbo failures...well lets just multiply that by 10 and we will say 30..30 out of 1,000 of cars is nothing...i mean not even 1% or .5% or .2% dammit people stop blowing stuff out of proportion..more people com on this forum for info for fixes than to praise there car!!! hell in the article they said 10 all together..well holy shiz..a whole 10 wow.another fine moment being blown out of proportion by e90post members...priceless!!

StrauserED_335i · 04-28-2008, 10:54 PM

Stuck wastegates.
Sounds like high underhood temps. Too many parking lot burnouts, BMW may need to pull the trigger on the water cooled w/g cans.

Barat · 04-28-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by purplewidow

omg here we go again more people blowing it out of proportion..you know those 3 people are probably all of the turbo failures...well lets just multiply that by 10 and we will say 30..30 out of 1,000 of cars is nothing...i mean not even 1% or .5% or .2% dammit people stop blowing stuff out of proportion..more people com on this forum for info for fixes than to praise there car!!! hell in the article they said 10 all together..well holy shiz..a whole 10 wow.another fine moment being blown out of proportion by e90post members...priceless!!

not to rain on your parrade but 30 out of 1000 is 3%...

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picus Brigadier General 125 Rep 4,172 Posts Drives: e92 SG 335i Coupe Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Toronto, ON iTrader: (0)	Mags like drama. 10 turbos out of how many cars with the N54? Even if only 10,000 cars worldwide have that engine that's still less less than a 0.01% failure rate.
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Tuned335i Major 24 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: World of Torque iTrader: (0)	Right, but when just as many (or more) parts are failing on stock cars as modded, for BMW to claim that the mods cause the failure is just as unethical as people trying to hide their mods from BMW when the same part fails. Do you guys see how absurd this is? The fact is that the part (take the HPFP for example) fails in service on a lot of cars, modded or not. That's it. There's no conspiracy.
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purplewidow Lieutenant Colonel 51 Rep 1,928 Posts Drives: e92 335 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	omg here we go again more people blowing it out of proportion..you know those 3 people are probably all of the turbo failures...well lets just multiply that by 10 and we will say 30..30 out of 1,000 of cars is nothing...i mean not even 1% or .5% or .2% dammit people stop blowing stuff out of proportion..more people com on this forum for info for fixes than to praise there car!!! hell in the article they said 10 all together..well holy shiz..a whole 10 wow.another fine moment being blown out of proportion by e90post members...priceless!!
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