[yanks4285]

.....piggybacks to be used on n54s.my brother spoke to the fse today and as of 03/08 production all vehicles with the n54 engine have a new dme (v81).piggybacks that are connected to the dme will and i mean WILL put the car into failsafe mode.also will store all information if tampered with that is not correct in any parameters.bmw does not want any of these vehicles tuned.

[CASHBY]

Originally Posted by yanks4285

.....piggybacks to be used on n54s.my brother spoke to the fse today and as of 03/08 production all vehicles with the n54 engine have a new dme (v81).piggybacks that are connected to the dme will and i mean WILL put the car into failsafe mode.also will store all information if tampered with that is not correct in any parameters.bmw does not want any of these vehicles tuned.

Check out n54tech.com there are some post of there about terry and how his JB1 works with it and is 100% verified!

so all is good and tuning will still happen!

[5soko]

Eurobahn and Split Second mentioned they tested the SSTT on there cars with the new DMEv81. also the JB1 is now working well with the new DME v81.

[yanks4285]

this new dme will be sensitive to any parameters changed.will be able to pretty much detect anything that is even to the slightess abnormal and record it.record everything and store it for bmw techs and engineers eyes only.

[Tuned335i]

Can someone explain to me why most of these doomsday threads are being started by people with less than 50 posts and no credibility (not all, but most)?

And not one of these retarded posts tells us anything we didn't already know! Jesus people, just go about your business. Nothing changed in the last week that we didn't know or expect a year ago...

[Kbueno]

What's with all the newbs posting these crazy statements....again...let's see the tuners verify this, sheesh.

[yanks4285]

i am not a newb.i have been on this forum since i took delivery of my car in december of 2006.was one of the first with the xede,aa exhaust,aa fmic,aa bov.i am a bmw tech signed up to e90post in feb to provide major info here and there.

[Tuned335i]

Originally Posted by yanks4285

i am not a newb.i have been on this forum since i took delivery of my car in december of 2006.was one of the first with the xede,aa exhaust,aa fmic,aa bov.i am a bmw tech signed up to e90post in feb to provide major info here and there.

Ok, I believe you. It just seems strange that a lot of these posts are from people with not a lot of posts. And some of the OPs post then never come back to answer questions... Thanks for filling us in on your background though!

[yanks4285]

Originally Posted by Tuned335i

Ok, I believe you. It just seems strange that a lot of these posts are from people with not a lot of posts. And some of the OPs post then never come back to answer questions... Thanks for filling us in on your background though!

ur welcome.i was incognito for a while.the fse and warranty managers told me they frequent these post alot keeping myself under the radar.i just don't care anymore.

[Kbueno]

Originally Posted by yanks4285

i am not a newb.i have been on this forum since i took delivery of my car in december of 2006.was one of the first with the xede,aa exhaust,aa fmic,aa bov.i am a bmw tech signed up to e90post in feb to provide major info here and there.

Hey no problem, didn't mean any offense, but the amount of doomsday threads around here are insane. However, this sounds like heresay, time will tell.

[Driver72]

I'm curious though:

Some are saying that the JB1, SSTT and so forth are working "just fine" on the new v81 DME
But does anybody know if the DME has stored the fact those piggybacks have been attached?

Nobody will know that fact until they take the piggyback off and take the v81 DME in to a BMW center and have them read the DME.
It would suck for them if the new DME really did store that they put a piggyback (or in the case of the JB1 and SSTT pretty much a resistor on).

Wonder who is going to be the first to actually install a piggyback INTO the ECU of the v81 DME and test if it does still work?

If not, whoa, guess the pre 3/08 built 335i's (and very few 135i's) will suddenly increase in value for an enthusiast who wants to tune.

[Sniper1690]

Originally Posted by Tuned335i

Can someone explain to me why most of these doomsday threads are being started by people with less than 50 posts and no credibility (not all, but most)?

While I can see your point in regards to post count, I'm not so sure that its always a great indicator of a poster's knoweldge basis or how much he/she reads the boards.

I've been lurking for well over a year, reading the boards religiously...hours a day. I just recently registered and actually started posting. Sure I have less than 100 posts, but I would not consider that indicitive of how much I read and follow the situations we are facing.

So as not to totally jack the thread...I spoke with my SA today after reading all of the posts regarding the N54 tuner witchhunt. I've had 3 BMWs (including 2 Dinan Signature cars...99 E46 328, 05 E60 545, and 08 E92 335) serviced under this SA since they were brand new off the lot and he advised that I had nothing to worry about...actually he is a service manager now and I'll take his word for it.

[yanks4285]

Originally Posted by Driver72

I'm curious though:

Some are saying that the JB1, SSTT and so forth are working "just fine" on the new v81 DME
But does anybody know if the DME has stored the fact those piggybacks have been attached?

Nobody will know that fact until they take the piggyback off and take the v81 DME in to a BMW center and have them read the DME.
It would suck for them if the new DME really did store that they put a piggyback (or in the case of the JB1 and SSTT pretty much a resistor on).

Wonder who is going to be the first to actually install a piggyback INTO the ECU of the v81 DME and test if it does still work?

If not, whoa, guess the pre 3/08 built 335i's (and very few 135i's) will suddenly increase in value for an enthusiast who wants to tune.

i am waiting for one to try out.

[chinoxs203]

well im pissed. my car was a march 08 prod. how can i verify for sure about the v80 or v81 installed? this is the reason i bought the car!!!

[lm1z]

haha. well i'm keeping my SSTT for sure but my buddy is getting rid of his and it's up for sale

personally i'm just going to ride this paranoia curve out...

[amuzement]

Will dealerships install this on their used models like the 2007?

[yanks4285]

Originally Posted by axi

Will dealerships install this on their used models like the 2007?

they can't,only 03/08 and up

[JEllis]

BMW is not making things easy

[E30M3Driver]

Originally Posted by lm1z

haha. well i'm keeping my SSTT for sure but my buddy is getting rid of his and it's up for sale

personally i'm just going to ride this paranoia curve out...

+1 this too shall pass! Next year we will be up in arms over something else.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by chinoxs203

well im pissed. my car was a march 08 prod. how can i verify for sure about the v80 or v81 installed? this is the reason i bought the car!!!

Pull out the ECU and read the label on the unit. I will verify alot of the hearsay around here when I get to it, but don't worry too much just yet. It's all speculation thus far.

You have been around the Lexus IS crowd for a while, and I built HUNDREDS of them, Lexus changed ECU's many times, "tightened the threshold" on many parameters and NONE ever presented a problem. Manufacturers do not sit on their butts without revising anything.

BTW, the 335i is faster than the IS in stock form (duhh) but it holds no candle to a boosted IS. Handling, the IS has it covered. Trust me, I've owned 2 IS's, both special ordered brand new and now the BMW. (just a mini FYI since many IS owners wandered over here) And now I await all the flaming comments on how Lexus' are rice from BMW fanatics.

[lm1z]

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

Pull out the ECU and read the label on the unit. I will verify alot of the hearsay around here when I get to it, but don't worry too much just yet. It's all speculation thus far.

You have been around the Lexus IS crowd for a while, and I built HUNDREDS of them, Lexus changed ECU's many times, "tightened the threshold" on many parameters and NONE ever presented a problem. Manufacturers do not sit on their butts without revising anything.

BTW, the 335i is faster than the IS in stock form (duhh) but it holds no candle to a boosted IS. Handling, the IS has it covered. Trust me, I've owned 2 IS's, both special ordered brand new and now the BMW.

Always loved your car! I am redliningit03 on my.is. Joined back in the day when it was .net, haha. Hope you're doin well.

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by lm1z

Always loved your car! I am redliningit03 on my.is. Joined back in the day when it was .net, haha. Hope you're doin well.

whats up man! Man alot of .net guys really are making their way over here.