Looking for PNP Amp replacement

LDV · 03-09-2018, 11:22 AM

Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade the audio in my e92 and I am torn between two options

1) upgrade the amp to a xd600/6 or ms-8

2) upgrade HU to Eonon (this won't improve sound quality from what I hear, but will increase functionality)

The xd600/6 is discontinued and very expensive - althought I've seen some factory refurbs recently for $400 which is very tempting.

I have been searching craigslist recently and found this - https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/el...517640752.html

which appears to be a 6 channel amp that accepts balanced inputs.

Does anyone know if this will be an easy replacement using Technic's harness?

Any suggestions for cheaper alternatives to the xd600/6? In my e36 I had a used MTX Blue Thunder that was a beast of an upgrade compared to the shite stock amp. I still have it - but I don't think it accepts balanced inputs.

LDV · 03-09-2018, 11:30 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pyle-6-Chan...wAAOSwiqFahLFe

Here's another cheap 6 channel amp - would this work?

ctuna · 03-09-2018, 12:12 PM

xd is still made its just called version 2 or 3 and has signal sensing now.
The helix amp/dsp are pretty popular but even more expensive than
just an amp alone they come in 8 channel and 6 channel.

LDV · 03-09-2018, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ctuna

xd is still made its just called version 2 or 3 and has signal sensing now.
The helix amp/dsp are pretty popular but even more expensive than
just an amp alone they come in 8 channel and 6 channel.

Thanks I might try and pick up an xd600/6 v2 refurb if I get talked out of the eonon

I watched a youtube video today of a before/after test using the xd600/6 and even in the video recording on a phone I could hear a massive different in individual track quality

LDV · 03-09-2018, 01:51 PM

My local audio shop suggested that I use a 4 channel amp and leave the rear speakers in the factory amp. I presume this means cutting wires - so what about buying a 4 channel amp, using Technic's harness, and dropping the rear speakers all together?

biz77 · 03-09-2018, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDV

My local audio shop suggested that I use a 4 channel amp and leave the rear speakers in the factory amp. I presume this means cutting wires - so what about buying a 4 channel amp, using Technic's harness, and dropping the rear speakers all together?

I wouldn't do that. That would require quite a bit of hacking on the oem wiring.

You also have the option of using multiple amps to run all six channels. You could run:
3x 2-channel amps
2x 4-channel amp with one bridged to run the woofers
a 4-channel with a 2-channel amp
etc. You get the idea.
Rockford Punch and Power-series amps have differential balanced inputs as well.

LDV · 03-09-2018, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biz77

I wouldn't do that. That would require quite a bit of hacking on the oem wiring.

You also have the option of using multiple amps to run all six channels. You could run:
3x 2-channel amps
2x 4-channel amp with one bridged to run the woofers
a 4-channel with a 2-channel amp
etc. You get the idea.
Rockford Punch and Power-series amps have differential balanced inputs as well.

What if I just dropped the rear speakers all together and just used a 4channel amp with technic's harness and don't connect the rear?

ctuna · 03-09-2018, 05:40 PM

Just buy the technic hi fi harness no cutting needed
everything is lableed. You need a power wire kit to.
Don't let anybody cut into your harness.

If you do the 4 channel fronts only you might want
to route the rears to the underseats that way
you can use the fader as a balance between the floors and
doors.

biz77 · 03-09-2018, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LDV

What if I just dropped the rear speakers all together and just used a 4channel amp with technic's harness and don't connect the rear?

You certainly can. If you have PDC you will lose your beeps/chimes by not connecting the rear speakers.

LDV · 03-09-2018, 09:39 PM

Thanks that is great info. I am going to keep searching for an xd600/6 but any suggestions on a good 4channel? Maybe one with DSP?

david in germany · 03-10-2018, 02:35 AM

I have an xd600/6 in the for sale section.

LDV · 03-11-2018, 10:59 PM

https://www.sony.com/electronics/car...deshow_default

I'm thinking about waiting for this amp.

Any thoughts based on the spec sheet?

03-09-2018, 11:22 AM	#1
LDV New Member 0 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 328xi Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	Looking for PNP Amp replacement Hi all, I'm looking to upgrade the audio in my e92 and I am torn between two options 1) upgrade the amp to a xd600/6 or ms-8 2) upgrade HU to Eonon (this won't improve sound quality from what I hear, but will increase functionality) The xd600/6 is discontinued and very expensive - althought I've seen some factory refurbs recently for $400 which is very tempting. I have been searching craigslist recently and found this - https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/el...517640752.html which appears to be a 6 channel amp that accepts balanced inputs. Does anyone know if this will be an easy replacement using Technic's harness? Any suggestions for cheaper alternatives to the xd600/6? In my e36 I had a used MTX Blue Thunder that was a beast of an upgrade compared to the shite stock amp. I still have it - but I don't think it accepts balanced inputs.
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LDV New Member 0 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 328xi Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pyle-6-Chan...wAAOSwiqFahLFe Here's another cheap 6 channel amp - would this work?
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2045 Rep 13,364 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	xd is still made its just called version 2 or 3 and has signal sensing now. The helix amp/dsp are pretty popular but even more expensive than just an amp alone they come in 8 channel and 6 channel.
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LDV New Member 0 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 328xi Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	My local audio shop suggested that I use a 4 channel amp and leave the rear speakers in the factory amp. I presume this means cutting wires - so what about buying a 4 channel amp, using Technic's harness, and dropping the rear speakers all together?
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ctuna Lieutenant General 2045 Rep 13,364 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	Just buy the technic hi fi harness no cutting needed everything is lableed. You need a power wire kit to. Don't let anybody cut into your harness. If you do the 4 channel fronts only you might want to route the rears to the underseats that way you can use the fader as a balance between the floors and doors.
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LDV New Member 0 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 328xi Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	Thanks that is great info. I am going to keep searching for an xd600/6 but any suggestions on a good 4channel? Maybe one with DSP?
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LDV New Member 0 Rep 27 Posts Drives: 2007 e92 328xi Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	https://www.sony.com/electronics/car...deshow_default I'm thinking about waiting for this amp. Any thoughts based on the spec sheet?
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