How to get better handling? Using non-staggered setup?

jgalaxy · 06-15-2008, 12:55 PM

I've been horsing around trying to get a more neutral feel to the cars handling. It plows into corners, barely holding the road going into the turn and then with little gas the rear would break loose.

I have 19" rims. 9" up front and 10.5" at the rear on Goodyear F1s on KWv3s. Does anyone have a sense if going to non-staggered would bring the car back some neutral handling characteristics?

kwakr738 · 06-19-2008, 01:55 AM

I know that Dinan in the past has used not-staggered set up to create more neutral handling cars. I am unsure the physics behind it, but the theory is the larger the rear, the more it will push the front tires.

Lassaxi · 06-19-2008, 07:35 AM

Non-staggered rims should help with the initial understeer.

Nikolas · 06-19-2008, 02:37 PM

A larger front sway bar would help with understeer. Also adding some additional negative camber in your front end would help. Some might tell you that the rear sway bar needs to be larger, but that actually does not have as big an effect as the front. Increasing the FSB helps maintain the dynamic camber on the front axle allowing for a more solid contact patch on the tire through the turn.

I don't know of any aftermarket bars though.

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Nikolas Colonel 313 Rep 2,576 Posts Drives: 996 TT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sierra Mountains iTrader: (0)	A larger front sway bar would help with understeer. Also adding some additional negative camber in your front end would help. Some might tell you that the rear sway bar needs to be larger, but that actually does not have as big an effect as the front. Increasing the FSB helps maintain the dynamic camber on the front axle allowing for a more solid contact patch on the tire through the turn. I don't know of any aftermarket bars though.
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