Is it normal that my car down shifts to 2nd gear and not 1st when completely stopped?

eNCore · 06-17-2008, 10:49 PM

I drive an AT 335i, when I play with the MT and come to a stop light it down shifts to 2nd and not 1st. Is this normal? If yes, can someone explain to me why? Thanks...

to_riffic · 06-17-2008, 10:58 PM

um, yes it stays at 2nd on ds mode. i suppose it helps u save gas so u dont hav to rev from 1-2. better to just start out at 2nd?

1-2nd is already a close ratio in upchange, so i think u might as well start in 2nd.

Year's_End · 06-17-2008, 10:59 PM

Its perfectly normal.

Tag · 06-18-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

Its perfectly normal.

+1

Arustik1 · 06-18-2008, 12:52 AM

It just says its in 2nd...its actually in 1st...thats just what it displays (i think)?

323d · 06-18-2008, 01:00 AM

no, if u stop, and go from 2 to 1, you will feel a slight jerk. @ m1 you get the most power at stop -> go,, but waste more gas.l

usually i leave it at m2. and just slowly coast

LOLrance · 06-18-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Arustik1

It just says its in 2nd...its actually in 1st...thats just what it displays (i think)?

nope, when it says m2, its really in m2.

Tag · 06-18-2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Arustik1

It just says its in 2nd...its actually in 1st...thats just what it displays (i think)?

ibimmer954 · 06-18-2008, 02:09 AM

Think of it this way...

"D" mode uses gears 2 - 6
"DS" mode uses gears 1 - 5.

I have never had the car shift into 6th gear while in DS mode... maybe I just haven't gone fast enough with it or something.

eNCore · 06-18-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 323d

@ m1 you get the most power at stop -> go,, but waste more gas.

Is that true? It's faster that way?

Sneeze · 06-18-2008, 03:09 AM

I think on D mode when you floor it automatically shift on 1st, but in normal driving always starts on 2nd.
On DS mode floor or normal driving 2nd is 2nd gear...

KillDork · 06-18-2008, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ibimmer346

Think of it this way...

"D" mode uses gears 2 - 6
"DS" mode uses gears 1 - 5.

I have never had the car shift into 6th gear while in DS mode... maybe I just haven't gone fast enough with it or something.

I've made my car change to sixth gear when in DS-mode, you don't have to go _that_ fast.

roozie2001 · 06-18-2008, 05:22 AM

m1 with DTC off (hold for a few seconds)...and rev to 2500k with foot on breaks and release. the what your car does. your balls will tingle if u drive a 335

danniexi · 06-18-2008, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by roozie2001

m1 with DTC off (hold for a few seconds)...and rev to 2500k with foot on breaks and release. the what your car does. your balls will tingle if u drive a 335

i found that putting the tranny in DS (along with DTC) and revving to 2K gave great off the line results. then again, im not the most sporting driver... have lots to learn. if anything though, my method gave my testes a bit of a tingle as well so yeahh...

addy85 · 06-18-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by roozie2001

m1 with DTC off (hold for a few seconds)...and rev to 2500k with foot on breaks and release. the what your car does. your balls will tingle if u drive a 335

not only your balls, but your passengers balls as well (boobs if its a woman)

Brandondad · 06-18-2008, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by danniexi

i found that putting the tranny in DS (along with DTC) and revving to 2K gave great off the line results. then again, im not the most sporting driver... have lots to learn. if anything though, my method gave my testes a bit of a tingle as well so yeahh...

Ahhh the joy of AWD. Had one as a loaner once, yeah that will give a rush.

As for starting in 2nd, its a good thing, in daily "normal" driving 1st gear isn't really necessary, since 2nd gear feels like 1st in "most" cars it does the job, and saves the transmission from some fast rev jerking. When you want to feel the power just tap back once and M1 is right there at your beckon call.

addy85 · 06-18-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brandondad

Ahhh the joy of AWD. Had one as a loaner once, yeah that will give a rush.

As for starting in 2nd, its a good thing, in daily "normal" driving 1st gear isn't really necessary, since 2nd gear feels like 1st in "most" cars it does the job, and saves the transmission from some fast rev jerking. When you want to feel the power just tap back once and M1 is right there at your beckon call.

I used to have a 12 second AWD Mistu eclipse. You wanna talk about joy of AWD

i miss it

karliejai · 06-18-2008, 01:32 PM

starting in 2nd gear is a lot smoother anyways.

jmonier · 06-18-2008, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ibimmer346

Think of it this way...

"D" mode uses gears 2 - 6
"DS" mode uses gears 1 - 5.

I have never had the car shift into 6th gear while in DS mode... maybe I just haven't gone fast enough with it or something.

I've heard this from many sources but from every indication mine starts out in 1 when in "D". Since the AT is adaptive it may be that it depends on your driving style.

In "DS", however, mine never seems to go above 5.

Brandondad · 06-18-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jmonier

I've heard this from many sources but from every indication mine starts out in 1 when in "D". Since the AT is adaptive it may be that it depends on your driving style.

I agree I'm pretty sure it starts in 1, under normal driving the shift to 2 is so smooth you may not feel the shift.

bmw0perat0r · 06-18-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ibimmer346

Think of it this way...

"D" mode uses gears 2 - 6
"DS" mode uses gears 1 - 5.

I have never had the car shift into 6th gear while in DS mode... maybe I just haven't gone fast enough with it or something.

This is correct and no you probably haven't gone fast enough. As i understand it, it will not shift to 6th until 140 or so. Of course i bought the xi and without the sport package so i won't be seeing 6th in DS mode anytime soon.

cbad335 · 06-18-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ibimmer346

Think of it this way...

"D" mode uses gears 2 - 6
"DS" mode uses gears 1 - 5.

I have never had the car shift into 6th gear while in DS mode... maybe I just haven't gone fast enough with it or something.

That's my experience as well.

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323d Major 53 Rep 1,436 Posts Drives: 335i E90 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: YVR iTrader: (4)	no, if u stop, and go from 2 to 1, you will feel a slight jerk. @ m1 you get the most power at stop -> go,, but waste more gas.l usually i leave it at m2. and just slowly coast __________________ ZSP susp//18's 550i reps//blacklines/aftermarket grill//
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Sneeze Captain 35 Rep 793 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: LA iTrader: (3)	I think on D mode when you floor it automatically shift on 1st, but in normal driving always starts on 2nd. On DS mode floor or normal driving 2nd is 2nd gear...
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