Mass State Inspection software couldn't read updated DME/ECU :: new update

BeaterM3 · 09-07-2018, 07:09 PM

Went to get a sticker here outside of Boston today. Couldn't pass emissions because the inspection software wouldn't connect to the DME; while handheld readers had no problem connecting.

I had my DME/ECU upgraded last Oct to the newest software with the PPK tune.

Pretty insane that this new inspection software might be trying to match stock software version to the vin # or something and not letting it connect because it's finding a different software version.

Anyone else have this issue?

Torgus · 09-08-2018, 02:09 PM

Who did the upgrade?

BeaterM3 · 09-11-2018, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Torgus

Who did the upgrade?

Joe from TopGearSolutions did both my PPK and Alpina flash by remote connection.

Torgus · 09-11-2018, 09:53 AM

Then tell him to fix it?

Or flash you back to stock so you can pass inspection and then flash back the PPK & Alpina.

Given hand held readers work etc my guess is your ODB2 port is perfectly fine. So it's something in the flash he did.

Please let everyone know how you get this resolved.

BeaterM3 · 09-12-2018, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Torgus

Then tell him to fix it?

Or flash you back to stock so you can pass inspection and then flash back the PPK & Alpina.

Given hand held readers work etc my guess is your ODB2 port is perfectly fine. So it's something in the flash he did.

Please let everyone know how you get this resolved.

He's already offered to reflash to OEM for the sticker and flash back to PPK. The Alpina flash shouldn't effect anything with the inspection. Just gotta make 2 appointments to get it done.

But I don't think there is anything he did wrong to fix though. It has to be the new Mass Inspection software looking for the original software. I hate this state with a passion. I have heard of someone in NJ with a Dinan tune who has a separate DME with the stock software loaded on it that he swaps in every year for his inspection.

I was also flirting with the MHD route...back up the PPK software and flash back to stock using MHD and then flash back to PPK with the back up. This route is a pricier but I can do it at my own convenience.

Haven't decided yet. I've got 7 weeks left to though lol

Torgus · 09-12-2018, 04:55 PM

That is annoying but at least you have a solution.

I pass fine with MHD and my single turbo n54.

crystalline · 09-12-2018, 11:13 PM

A quick search turned up that someone else had a similar story with a tuned Merc a few months ago. Has anyone passed with MHD and one monitor not ready recently?? I'm up next month...

Torgus · 09-13-2018, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalline

A quick search turned up that someone else had a similar story with a tuned Merc a few months ago. Has anyone passed with MHD and one monitor not ready recently?? I'm up next month...

I did in April with the new machines. Just MHD loaded with my custom flash tune. Cat not ready. Passed with flying colors.

Joe@TopGearSolutions · 09-14-2018, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Torgus

Then tell him to fix it?

Or flash you back to stock so you can pass inspection and then flash back the PPK & Alpina.

Given hand held readers work etc my guess is your ODB2 port is perfectly fine. So it's something in the flash he did.

Please let everyone know how you get this resolved.

I'd be interested in finding out as well, as I find it hard to believe the inspection station would be checking BMW official records to determine when/who installed the BMW OEM software onto the DME.

Honestly, I find it hard to believe they care what software numbers exist on the DMEs...

RoarinForeign · 09-19-2018, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by crystalline

A quick search turned up that someone else had a similar story with a tuned Merc a few months ago. Has anyone passed with MHD and one monitor not ready recently?? I'm up next month...

I did in April with the new machines. Just MHD loaded with my custom flash tune. Cat not ready. Passed with flying colors.

Last September I passed with a JB4 and dp fix, but you're saying if I just don't check the cat box on mhd I should be fine to pass ma inspection ? (My old fix broke so I don't want to buy a new one)

Torgus · 09-19-2018, 01:37 PM

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Last September I passed with a JB4 and dp fix, but you're saying if I just don't check the cat box on mhd I should be fine to pass ma inspection ? (My old fix broke so I don't want to buy a new one)

I've always had custom tunes where they built it into the map so I never have to click any of the boxes in MHD except the new shift bog tq fix, because that one is low level.

zero2sixtyZ you pass with OTS MHD Maps right? What do you click in MHD?

crystalline · 09-19-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Torgus

I've always had custom tunes where they built it into the map so I never have to click any of the boxes in MHD except the new shift bog tq fix, because that one is low level.

zero2sixtyZ you pass with OTS MHD Maps right? What do you click in MHD?

Unless I'm misremembering you leave it unchecked. If you check the box MHD thinks you have a cat and turns the sensors back on.

zero2sixtyZ · 09-19-2018, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalline

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Originally Posted by Torgus

I've always had custom tunes where they built it into the map so I never have to click any of the boxes in MHD except the new shift bog tq fix, because that one is low level.

zero2sixtyZ you pass with OTS MHD Maps right? What do you click in MHD?

Unless I'm misremembering you leave it unchecked. If you check the box MHD thinks you have a cat and turns the sensors back on.

Correct.

I've passed with OTS stage 2 maps yes.

RoarinForeign · 09-20-2018, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ

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Originally Posted by crystalline

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Originally Posted by Torgus

I've always had custom tunes where they built it into the map so I never have to click any of the boxes in MHD except the new shift bog tq fix, because that one is low level.

zero2sixtyZ you pass with OTS MHD Maps right? What do you click in MHD?

Unless I'm misremembering you leave it unchecked. If you check the box MHD thinks you have a cat and turns the sensors back on.

Correct.

I've passed with OTS stage 2 maps yes.

Awesome! I'm assuming you just did the regular bmw drive cycle ?

zero2sixtyZ · 09-20-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RoarinForeign

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Originally Posted by zero2sixtyZ

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Originally Posted by crystalline

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Originally Posted by Torgus

I've always had custom tunes where they built it into the map so I never have to click any of the boxes in MHD except the new shift bog tq fix, because that one is low level.

zero2sixtyZ you pass with OTS MHD Maps right? What do you click in MHD?

Unless I'm misremembering you leave it unchecked. If you check the box MHD thinks you have a cat and turns the sensors back on.

Correct.

I've passed with OTS stage 2 maps yes.

Awesome! I'm assuming you just did the regular bmw drive cycle ?

Yup.

crystalline · 09-20-2018, 02:27 PM

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Yup.

Here is one I didn't think of until now, are black lines with an orange blinker bulb legal in MA?

Torgus · 09-20-2018, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by crystalline

Here is one I didn't think of until now, are black lines with an orange blinker bulb legal in MA?

yes. technically maybe not if the lights are not DOT approved but no one checks.

bulb just has to light up amber.

zero2sixtyZ · 09-21-2018, 12:07 PM

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Here is one I didn't think of until now, are black lines with an orange blinker bulb legal in MA?

yes. technically maybe not if the lights are not DOT approved but no one checks.

bulb just has to light up amber.

Amber or red in the rear. E92 LCIs blink red in the US.

Torgus · 09-21-2018, 02:03 PM

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Amber or red in the rear. E92 LCIs blink red in the US.

Correct, excuse me. Red or Amber is allowed in the rear. Amber only in the front.

My E92 LCI tails blink orange

Baller.

zero2sixtyZ · 09-21-2018, 03:21 PM

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Amber or red in the rear. E92 LCIs blink red in the US.

Correct, excuse me. Red or Amber is allowed in the rear. Amber only in the front.

My E92 LCI tails blink orange

Baller.

Euro?!? You are a baller. Here I am with the peasant US version.

b92 · 09-21-2018, 03:32 PM

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Euro?!? You are a baller. Here I am with the peasant US version.

All hail the king!

BeaterM3 · 10-04-2018, 12:25 PM

Update for you guys...I decided to make a call into the Vehicle Check Center (the guys at the MAC centers I believe work for the software developer for the new inspection system). Since I have already been flagged by the system for non communications to the DME, I didn't have really much to lose.

I was told in a round about way that the system matches your vin # to whatever software version was loaded on your vehicle at your last vehicle inspection; previous to the new system being installed.

They said I should be able to flash back to that exact software version (which Joe from TGS graciously helped me with last night), that I would be able to pass on my next go around.

If this is true (I will update this thread again once I get inspected again), this is a pretty invasive situation.

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