Roadforce balance weights unacceptable?

Bubbles · 07-08-2008, 08:50 PM

The skinny---I ordered a set of wheels and tires from Tirerack. I requested Tirerack "roadforce" mount and balance.

When I received the tires/wheels I noticed two of the tires required nearly 3.5 ounces of weights (assuming they were balanced properly) whereas the other two wheel/tires needed less than half an ounce.

Is this acceptable for new/wheel tires, do you guys have any thoughts? Should I return the set?

O-cha · 07-08-2008, 08:51 PM

You bought cheep wheels right? That's what happens.

e90AW335i · 07-08-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

You bought cheep wheels right? That's what happens.

+1

Bubbles · 07-08-2008, 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O-cha

You bought cheep wheels right? That's what happens.

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

+1

What if I told you the wheels were not cheap, BBS RS-GT cheap?

So if I can translate, this would be unacceptable for "non-cheep" wheels.

O-cha · 07-08-2008, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

What if I told you the wheels were not cheap, BBS RS-GT cheap?

So if I can translate, this would be unacceptable for "non-cheep" wheels.

I wouldn't accept it for an expensive set of wheels. If they were 1500 or less for the set though you had it coming.

Bubbles · 07-08-2008, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

I wouldn't accept it for an expensive set of wheels. If they were 1500 or less for the set though you had it coming.

That was my gut reaction, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't being unreasonable in my expectations.

Kev · 07-08-2008, 10:06 PM

What tires did you order? Cheap tires can throw off your balance too.

Bubbles · 07-08-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kev

What tires did you order? Cheap tires can throw off your balance too.

Pilot Sport PS2s, so I think either the tires are out of round or the wheel is defective.

Sniz · 07-08-2008, 10:19 PM

sounds like a very nice setup you got....other than the balance issue. Hope you can get it resolved.

AlpineM6GC · 07-08-2008, 10:19 PM

3.5 ounces isn't that much

Kev · 07-08-2008, 10:22 PM

That's about 100g. The stock TPMS weighs about 60g. It's odd that two wheels only require less than 0.5oz of weights.....

Artz 330 · 07-08-2008, 10:22 PM

2 wheels on my 335i stocks have 3 ounces mounted and 3 of my stocks on ny M have around 3 ounces..

hensta · 07-08-2008, 10:33 PM

For the small population that isn't familiar with Roadforce balance, can you enlighten us with the difference between Roadforce and non-Roadforce? What are the indications for Roadforce balancing?

Bubbles · 07-08-2008, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

sounds like a very nice setup you got....other than the balance issue. Hope you can get it resolved.

Thanks, I plan on calling Tirerack tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Kev

That's about 100g. The stock TPMS weighs about 60g. It's odd that two wheels only require less than 0.5oz of weights.....

I did not order TPMS with these wheels/tire, which is why the I'm confused with differential.

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Originally Posted by Artz 330

2 wheels on my 335i stocks have 3 ounces mounted and 3 of my stocks on ny M have around 3 ounces..

Maybe due to the TPMS?

Artz 330 · 07-08-2008, 10:40 PM

probably, who knows...

Bubbles · 07-08-2008, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hensta

For the small population that isn't familiar with Roadforce balance, can you enlighten us with the difference between Roadforce and non-Roadforce? What are the indications for Roadforce balancing?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=40

ohsnap · 07-09-2008, 03:20 AM

i had a really cool tech dial in the balance by rotating the tire on the wheel on my cheapo csl rep/general combo. he spent +20 mins on one tire (deflate/rotate tire/inflate/re-balance/repeat) and had my final balance down to 1.1 from +4oz. hope you get yours worked out bubbles as thats a nice wheel/tire combo!

sparkyg · 07-09-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

What if I told you the wheels were not cheap, BBS RS-GT cheap?

So if I can translate, this would be unacceptable for "non-cheep" wheels.

Nice choice, need pics

judec · 07-09-2008, 04:02 PM

100g is not that much. It's normal imo. It doesnt even need to be because of the wheels, the tires may be unbalanced, too. But as I say, 100g isn't bad at all.

V1.47fan · 07-09-2008, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

You bought cheep wheels right? That's what happens.

You're wrong,He didn't buy cheap wheels.That's not what happened.

David1 · 07-09-2008, 05:19 PM

I wouldn't be concerned about it. My fathers 911 came with 3 to 4 ounces on each wheel with PS2's. The time and effort to get rid of wheel weights is not worth the time and effort especially if they are balanced.

mwahlert · 07-09-2008, 05:53 PM

look at the tire - there should be a yellow circle on the tire - and it should be lined up with the valve stem - and there should also be a red circle (both are small) that should be opposite the valve stem...(some tires don't have the yellow circle) - red circle should be mounted opposite valve stem.

the spot marked on the tire w/ a small yellow circle is the lightest spot of the tire.

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Sniz Lieutenant General 682 Rep 10,584 Posts Drives: e92 335 - gone // e36 M3 turbo Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD iTrader: (1)	sounds like a very nice setup you got....other than the balance issue. Hope you can get it resolved. __________________
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Kev Critical Care Anesthesiologist 492 Rep 8,824 Posts Drives: SMB F83 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (24) Garage List 2009 Porsche 911 Ca ... [9.50]	That's about 100g. The stock TPMS weighs about 60g. It's odd that two wheels only require less than 0.5oz of weights..... __________________ kev { divinum est sedate dolorem } "your friendly neighborhood critical care anesthesiologist"
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Artz 330 Colonel 203 Rep 2,486 Posts Drives: Z4M, 335i, 135i Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	2 wheels on my 335i stocks have 3 ounces mounted and 3 of my stocks on ny M have around 3 ounces.. __________________
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hensta I see old people 7 Rep 111 Posts Drives: too slow in my '08 335i coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Nor CA iTrader: (0)	For the small population that isn't familiar with Roadforce balance, can you enlighten us with the difference between Roadforce and non-Roadforce? What are the indications for Roadforce balancing?
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Artz 330 Colonel 203 Rep 2,486 Posts Drives: Z4M, 335i, 135i Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (4) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	probably, who knows... __________________
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ohsnap Lieutenant 27 Rep 582 Posts Drives: 08 E90 AW 335i 6MT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Seattle iTrader: (6) Garage List 2008 E90 335i [0.00]	i had a really cool tech dial in the balance by rotating the tire on the wheel on my cheapo csl rep/general combo. he spent +20 mins on one tire (deflate/rotate tire/inflate/re-balance/repeat) and had my final balance down to 1.1 from +4oz. hope you get yours worked out bubbles as thats a nice wheel/tire combo! __________________ \| M-Tech Kit \| M-Sport Wheel \| M-Sport Shifter & E-Brake \| Blacklines \| JB3 PnP \| BMC Drop-In \| Zeck M-CDV \| MTech H7 \| Luminics HB4 \| LUX 4.0 \| \| 30% Tint \| OEM Alum Pedals \| Matte Black Kidneys \| KW V2 \| H&R Sways \| 18" SSR Type C RS \| Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec \|
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judec born to be turbocharged 24 Rep 1,347 Posts Drives: Not a bimmer yet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slovakia iTrader: (0)	100g is not that much. It's normal imo. It doesnt even need to be because of the wheels, the tires may be unbalanced, too. But as I say, 100g isn't bad at all. __________________ Disclaimer: All this message was written with recycled electrons.
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David1 Brigadier General 948 Rep 4,039 Posts Drives: 09 E92 09 X5 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Columbus, OH iTrader: (1)	I wouldn't be concerned about it. My fathers 911 came with 3 to 4 ounces on each wheel with PS2's. The time and effort to get rid of wheel weights is not worth the time and effort especially if they are balanced.
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mwahlert Lieutenant Colonel 97 Rep 1,659 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: NC iTrader: (8)	look at the tire - there should be a yellow circle on the tire - and it should be lined up with the valve stem - and there should also be a red circle (both are small) that should be opposite the valve stem...(some tires don't have the yellow circle) - red circle should be mounted opposite valve stem. the spot marked on the tire w/ a small yellow circle is the lightest spot of the tire.
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