[Tag]

Guys,

Would I be able to put the Dinan flash on my car even though it's leased? Does Dinan revert it back to stock at lease end? I've heard they will charge the same as getting the flash to revert it .

Is there anything I should be worried about with warranty and the fact it's not my car?

TIA

[lm1z]

Originally Posted by tag824

Guys,

Would I be able to put the Dinan flash on my car even though it's leased? Does Dinan revert it back to stock at lease end? I've heard they will charge the same as getting the flash to revert it .

Is there anything I should be worried about with warranty and the fact it's not my car?

TIA

They charge you labor to revert the flash back to stock. They don't charge you another $2k. It takes 15 minutes. And yes, they would revert the car to stock at lease end for two reasons. A) They could charge someone else the $2k to get the flash, and B) because the car appeals to more people in stock form.

Warranty is covered through BMW/Dinan for all modified vehicles. You won't have to worry about that

[Tag]

Is there anything I should be worried about since it's not my car? After they revert it to stock flash that means it will be covered by BMW's warranty again and they will not know I ever had the flash done, right? Or does Dinan disclose this info to BMW?

Also, does anyone know what 15 minutes of labor cost? Just trying to sort things out before I decide to take the plunge.

[darkphantom]

that is going to be $2k+ you're literally losing, not something you'll have as a depreciating asset, but will LOSE entirely! I wouldn't do it if it was leased...but again, it's just my opinion.

[HennarotM3]

Originally Posted by darkphantom

that is going to be $2k+ you're literally losing, not something you'll have as a depreciating asset, but will LOSE entirely! I wouldn't do it if it was leased...but again, it's just my opinion.

In fairness, you could just buy out the car at the end of the lease and flip it for a premium over the residual if you really believe that the Dinan flash adds tangible resale value.

[HennarotM3]

Originally Posted by tag824

Is there anything I should be worried about since it's not my car? After they revert it to stock flash that means it will be covered by BMW's warranty again and they will not know I ever had the flash done, right? Or does Dinan disclose this info to BMW?

Also, does anyone know what 15 minutes of labor cost? Just trying to sort things out before I decide to take the plunge.

Your SA can try to get a deal on the labor for you. I would just ask your SA to get you the dealership's best price on a flash including labor.

[darkphantom]

Originally Posted by HennarotM3

In fairness, you could just buy out the car at the end of the lease and flip it for a premium over the residual if you really believe that the Dinan flash adds tangible resale value.

yup true good luck with the decision!

[Tag]

No way am I going to buy my car at lease end. The price of the $ has gone so low that I'm happy I leased. If I get a couple of years out of the Dinan flash then it's worth it.

I just hit up my SA so I guess I have to wait and see if they do the Dinan flash with leased cars. If not then maybe I will look into Proceed

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by lm1z

They charge you labor to revert the flash back to stock. They don't charge you another $2k. It takes 15 minutes. And yes, they would revert the car to stock at lease end for two reasons. A) They could charge someone else the $2k to get the flash, and B) because the car appeals to more people in stock form.

Warranty is covered through BMW/Dinan for all modified vehicles. You won't have to worry about that

I don't agree with this at all.
It is a fact that if you flash a car with Dinan, that the Dinan flash will be on the paper work for the life of the car.
With that said, you will most likely not be able to flash a leased car.
Here are my reasons:

Once a car is flashed by Dinan, the BMW warranty no longer exists! The warranty is now covered by Dinan and not BMW.
If one decides to upgrade to the extended warranty and the car has the Dinan flash then you are out of luck.
There will be no extended warranties on a Dinan car! Why? Because Dinan does not have the extended warranty. BMW does and remember that your BMW warranty no longer exists because of the flash.

After saying all of this, just think of how hard it will be for a dealer to sell a used car that cannot be "certified" with the extended warranty?

People need to understand the Dinan/BMW agreement before they just think that everything will be peachy just because it's Dinan.

[kptaylor]

Originally Posted by tag824

No way am I going to buy my car at lease end. The price of the $ has gone so low that I'm happy I leased.

The dollar being down means buying a BMW has now (or soon will have) gotten more expensive.

[lm1z]

Originally Posted by Mr. 5

I don't agree with this at all.
It is a fact that if you flash a car with Dinan, that the Dinan flash will be on the paper work for the life of the car.
With that said, you will most likely not be able to flash a leased car.
Here are my reasons:

Once a car is flashed by Dinan, the BMW warranty no longer exists! The warranty is now covered by Dinan and not BMW.
If one decides to upgrade to the extended warranty and the car has the Dinan flash then you are out of luck.
There will be no extended warranties on a Dinan car! Why? Because Dinan does not have the extended warranty. BMW does and remember that your BMW warranty no longer exists because of the flash.

After saying all of this, just think of how hard it will be for a dealer to sell a used car that cannot be "certified" with the extended warranty?

People need to understand the Dinan/BMW agreement before they just think that everything will be peachy just because it's Dinan.

Respectfully, this was not what I was told. The car would be flashed back to stock and the new owner would have to purchase an extended warranty. Every dealer is different. I was told that a flash on a lease vehicle was perfectly fine. Every car is inspected at lease end. The dealer can also decide to sell the car as a Dinan 3 as you stated. If you're at a respectful dealership, I don't see why they wouldn't offer a full extended warranty (if Dinan software has been removed).

Bottom line is that if you decide to flash the vehicle you should get any warranty issues resolved ON PAPER. Make sure you have your agreements in writing.

IMO the flash is a waste on a lease vehicle. As someone stated earlier in the thread, you're pissing $2k down the toilet. Go with something like the SSTT and call it a day. It's easily removable and can be sold at a later time.

[AJerman]

Oh please, lets get real. You're not pissing $2k down the toilet. More like $30k+ when you decide you don't want to give it up at the end of your lease.

[StarrDlux]

didn't someone eat $26K on a car because of a non-dinan product recently? exposing yourself to that kind of loss is not very wise lease or purchase.

i've seen a car go from non-cpo to cpo in 5 minutes after sitting on a lot for a year.

the question is; if the is flashed back to stock; does the next owner still own the right to use dinan? since it is a car accessory and not necessarily tied to an owner?

[Tag]

Originally Posted by lm1z

Go with something like the SSTT and call it a day. It's easily removable and can be sold at a later time.

SSTT looks like a good and affordable compromise I guess. Is there anything else that does the same but gives you more power and is reliable in a similar price range? I'm a noob when it comes to engine software mods.

Thanks

[StarrDlux]

SSTT = $26K for motor if anything happens. they can detect it.
dinan = $0K for motor if anything happens. you are covered.

reliability may not be the tune/piggy itself; it could be a fluke failure. do you feel lucky?

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by StarrDlux

SSTT = $26K for motor if anything happens. they can detect it.
dinan = $0K for motor if anything happens. you are covered.

reliability may not be the tune/piggy itself; it could be a fluke failure. do you feel lucky?

How can they detect the SSTT? Maybe I am missing something or maybe you should read up a bit more on what 29.2+ or v.81 does.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

How can they detect the SSTT? Maybe I am missing something or maybe you should read up a bit more on what 29.2+ or v.81 does.

+1

I thought there was no way to detect the use of the SSTT

Very confused...

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by tag824

+1

I thought there was no way to detect the use of the SSTT

Very confused...

I think you are correct--I do not think the dealer can detect the SSTT.

[Mr. 5]

Originally Posted by lm1z

Respectfully, this was not what I was told. The car would be flashed back to stock and the new owner would have to purchase an extended warranty. Every dealer is different. I was told that a flash on a lease vehicle was perfectly fine. Every car is inspected at lease end. The dealer can also decide to sell the car as a Dinan 3 as you stated. If you're at a respectful dealership, I don't see why they wouldn't offer a full extended warranty (if Dinan software has been removed).

Bottom line is that if you decide to flash the vehicle you should get any warranty issues resolved ON PAPER. Make sure you have your agreements in writing.

IMO the flash is a waste on a lease vehicle. As someone stated earlier in the thread, you're pissing $2k down the toilet. Go with something like the SSTT and call it a day. It's easily removable and can be sold at a later time.

The only way I can see this happening is if the dealer gets BMW NA to reinstate the factory warranty. In the e46 M3 world, if a car has been flashed by Dinan, they lose out on the extended warranty-period.

Originally Posted by StarrDlux

SSTT = $26K for motor if anything happens. they can detect it.
dinan = $0K for motor if anything happens. you are covered.

reliability may not be the tune/piggy itself; it could be a fluke failure. do you feel lucky?

It's time for you to do a little research around here before you start making statements like this.
Education is key and arrogance will get you burned.

[silvrevo]

Great Imfo Mr. 5...

Read this and obsorb it.

Flushing money down the drain....

You could get a similar product for a fraction the cost,,, and have it in hand to sell when you take it off your car.

p.s. re-read what Mr.5 has said.