So Im confused about engine updates and Piggybacks

littleyellowm3 · 08-05-2008, 02:09 AM

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Sniz · 08-05-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Philritter21

I just had a complete new engine put in about 5 weeks ago, andIm sure the computer was updated to 29.2 or higher. So does this mean I cannon get one of them without having to worry about the Servicing dept... even if I remove it before hand?

please do tell more about the new engine?

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 09:23 AM

You can get PROcede V3 w/doomsday or JB3 w/29.2 map. Both will provide great results. Check out these numbers and choose for yourself.

Here are the results for JB3 w/29.2 map. This car is a 135i w/JB3 as the only mod:

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Here are the results for V3 w/doomsday map (Run 7 and 8). This car is a 335i w/open element intake, intercooler, and borla cat back exhaust:

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e.n335 · 08-05-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

You can get PROcede V3 w/doomsday or JB3 w/29.2 map. Both will provide great results. Check out these numbers and choose for yourself.

Here are the results for JB3 w/29.2 map. This car is a 135i w/JB3 as the only mod:

Attachment 174681

Here are the results for V3 w/doomsday map (Run 7 and 8). This car is a 335i w/open element intake, intercooler, and borla cat back exhaust:

Attachment 174682

wow ...

imaznumkay · 08-05-2008, 09:45 AM

why is the v3 doomsday so low with the torque??

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by imaznumkay

why is the v3 doomsday so low with the torque??

Shiv might have changed it up recently but this is the only doomsday dyno I have seen.....

OBI_agent · 08-05-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

please do tell more about the new engine?

+1...how much did it cost?

littleyellowm3 · 08-05-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sniz

please do tell more about the new engine?

Welllllllllll,

While enjoying myself at our local Thai restaurant, a heavy thunderstorm dropped about an inch of rain while I was there. When i came back out, there was standing water blocking the easy way out of the parking lot. Cars were parked in it; and it wasnt even coming much past their tire tread, so I figured it was alright to drive through. Well as im driving through it, It starts to get deeper until my nose drops and water comes up over the hood. Not good. The car was able to pull itself out and park in a safe spot, but it took its last breaths and died, with steam coming out of the hood, and water coming out of the tailpipe. Required an entire new engine. $16975.78

After the water cleared, I went to go look, and the parking lot has the DEEPEST storm drain depression I have ever seen. You could sled down it in the winter. That part of the lot is basically bowl shaped.

Anyways, never drive through water! And thank god for insurance.

Back to the topic, How do you download and upload the Dommsday and 29.2 maps for JB and Procede?

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Philritter21

Back to the topic, How do you download and upload the Dommsday and 29.2 maps for JB and Procede?

The JB will come with it preloaded and ready to go. The PROcede you would d/l it from their forums....

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 12:50 PM

Here is a better comparison graph.

135i: JB3 only (RED and BLUE line)

335i: RPi intercooler, Borla Exhaust, Open Element Air filter, PROcede V3 (GREEN line)

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OpenFlash · 08-05-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by imaznumkay

why is the v3 doomsday so low with the torque??

It's funny... That's the dyno result from the first 29.2 car I've ever tuned on the dyno. It was from months ago before anyone really knew about the diagnostic "strictness" of 29.2. So I kept fuel trims within that of a stock car. We've gotten a bit more aggressive since then as others can attest to. But still, I'll leave it to others to push the diagnostic limits of 29.2 and MSD81. It will be interesting to see if the 135 results posted (Terry's car, I presume) above are replicated by customers cars running the same MSD81/29.2 and still avoid the manipulation code.

Cheers.
shiv

OpenFlash · 08-05-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Here is a better comparison graph.

135i: JB3 only (RED line)

335i: RPi intercooler, Borla Exhaust, Open Element Air filter, PROcede V3 (BLUE line)

Attachment 174700

You sure about that description?

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You sure about that description?

Which one? About it being a better comparison? I think it is the best comparison that we have so far. I am still waiting for someone else with a V3 doomsday to dyno again.....

There is full disclosure there.....

BlueLion · 08-05-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by imaznumkay

why is the v3 doomsday so low with the torque??

it can't be that the 135 and 335 dyno differently?

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

It's funny... That's the dyno result from the first 29.2 car I've ever tuned on the dyno. It was from months ago before anyone really knew about the diagnostic "strictness" of 29.2. So I kept fuel trims within that of a stock car. We've gotten a bit more aggressive since then as others can attest to. But still, I'll leave it to others to push the diagnostic limits of 29.2 and MSD81. It will be interesting to see if the 135 results posted (Terry's car, I presume) above are replicated by customers cars running the same MSD81/29.2.

Cheers.
shiv

Its funny, that is what I used to say about your dynos Shiv.

People have already replicated his dyno numbers on the 335i so I see no reason why people with the 135i's or 335i with the new ECU wont do the same.

OpenFlash · 08-05-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

Which one? About it being a better comparison? I think it is the best comparison that we have so far. I am still waiting for someone else with a V3 doomsday to dyno again.....

There is full disclosure there.....

The description you wrote shows a car with "JB3 only" making 378whp.

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

The description you wrote shows a car with "JB3 only" making 378whp.

LOL, awesome, I posted the wrong file. Hold on....

Ado · 08-05-2008, 01:05 PM

Has anyone taken their car to the stealership after having either of these installed?

OpenFlash · 08-05-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by e90AW335i

LOL, awesome, I posted the wrong file. Hold on....

yeah.

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

yeah.

Fixed. Thanks for keeping me honest Shiv. True friends do that....

mistermojorizin · 08-05-2008, 03:27 PM

Was the v3 graph above also done on 91?

e90AW335i · 08-05-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mistermojorizin

Was the v3 graph above also done on 91?

Nope, the V3 one is on 93 octane

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