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      07-26-2019, 07:00 PM   #1
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P0091 on a Bmw 335i

Hey guys I'm in the market looking at a new to me 08 BMW 335i with 110k miles. The car has been sitting for 2 months since the owner just wants a new car . The car won't start but it cranks hard I smell fuel there are only 2 codes one for a evap code and a P0091. The car won't start and I checked out YouTube videos on it I am getting it at a great price fbo and clean. I want to jump on it but I don't know where to start please help. Thank you for letting me.into the group
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Hey guys I'm in the market looking at a new to me 08 BMW 335i with 110k miles. The car has been sitting for 2 months since the owner just wants a new car . The car won't start but it cranks hard I smell fuel there are only 2 codes one for a evap code and a P0091. The car won't start and I checked out YouTube videos on it I am getting it at a great price fbo and clean. I want to jump on it but I don't know where to start please help. Thank you for letting me.into the group
How do you figure you're getting the car for a great price? If I understand correctly it won't start and you don't know why. For all you know the engine is toast.
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How do you figure you're getting the car for a great price? If I understand correctly it won't start and you don't know why. For all you know the engine is toast.
Well I am getting it for 1k I doubt the engine is toast
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With 110k on it the guy looks like he's genuine he just in a hard place
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What do you guys recommend I check he believes it's the hpfp
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Well I am getting it for 1k I doubt the engine is toast
You're getting a great FBO 110k mile car for 1k?
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It's a fuel pressure code. Either LPFP or HPFP is dead. Actual BMW codes instead of generic OBDII codes would likely give you some useful information.

If you can't get BMW standard tools set up in your laptop, get some parts out of a wreck for a guess and test. But the best way to trouble shoot is to get the actual BMW codes from the DME. It's not that hard - plenty of threads on getting setup with INPA, WinKFP, NCExpert
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Hey guys I just picked up the the car little little leave like five minutes ago I put it on a tow truck as it was going onto the tow truck it leaked a bunch of fuel and I mean a lot like a covered the whole floor what would that possibly be also I got a screenshot and another cold came up camshaft sensor I will give it to you guys in a few
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If you bought for $1k and can't get it to run. Might as well part it out if FBO as you say. Hopefully the owner was honest with you. Just take it to an Indy and see what they say.
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I am always looking to see if I can figure out myself yes I did buy it for $1,000 they only has a hundred and ten thousand miles it looks like a good clean car LED headlamps the works full bolt-ons exhaust very nice car it's just owner was stuck in a rock and a hard place so he was looking to sell as soon as you can. I am looking to hopefully get some answers here and get it resolved I never worked on a European car before what I've done very many LSX swaps. I have a procharged Corvette and I would like to add the BMW as my family saloon
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So I went to Napa and bought a crankshaft sensor part number Css1268 I will try to remove it today and hopefully get the car started tommorow I do have to check the lines and find out why fuel poured out
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I was going to finish it last night and put the sensor in but had so much to do. I didn't have time to get it out but got battery taken out and removed the intake
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Update so I was working late last night I till 8 pm like every other day so I had about 30 minutes to work on the car before I it was too late and too dark. So I removed the intake hoses throttle body and I accidently snapped off the clip to the sensor on top of the manifold. Does anyone know which sensor this is??? just want to verify I could not find the crankshaft sensor location can anyone provide me a better picture??? I did check by the top of the starter its just hard to see anything there
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Anyone?? Please
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The sensor on the manifold is a MAP sensor - Manifold Absolute Pressure (not to be confused with the sensor on the charge pipe, the TMAP sensor - Temperature and Absolute Manifold Pressure. If you just broke the clip it's no big deal. It has a silicone rubber seal which will hold it in.

Why are you replacing the crankshaft sensor? You have fuel pressure code, right?
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Dpaul I will probably end up doing both but I wanted to see if with the crankshaft sensor it would start. When I got it onto the tow truck there was a lot of what seem like fuel coming out of then engine bay. When I checked it back home I could not see where it came from.
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You are saying you made a totally random guess that the crank sensor was malfunctioning? There was no rationale for that particular decision? That there was gasoline pouring out of the car and a fuel pressure code and you decided that the crankshaft sensor needed replacement?
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Car was not cranking so I went to check the codes again and there was two codes a P0091 code and a P0355 code which came up as the crankshaft sensor. This is why I am replacing it just to get rid of that headache before I tackle the pump
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Car was not cranking? You mean the starter was not turning the engine over? That will have nothing whatsoever to do with the crank position sensor.
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Thank you for your help D paul so I was able to get to the crankshaft sensor the only reason I changed it because the code was coming up. So today I attempted to start it. Cranked over for about 10 seconds and I started smelling fuel and car stopped cranking. I went out to see if anything happen and saw on the bottom driver side under the headlight a pool of fuel. I will inspect it tomorrow any thoughts???

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So after replacing the crankshaft sender I tried to get to read the codes with a better scanner here is what came up

3 Pending Trouble Codes:
• P0458: EVAP System Purge Control Valve "A" Circuit Low
• P0091: Fuel Pressure Regulator 1 Control Circuit Low
• P0335: Crankshaft Position Sensor "A" Circuit

1 Junction BoxModule Trouble Codes:
• A738: Status: History - Powersupply disconnected

6 Engine Trouble Codes:
• 3100: Status: Active - Check report for description.
• 30BA: Status: Intermittent - Check report for description.
• 30BB: Status: Intermittent - Check report for description.
• 2A19: Status: Intermittent - tank ventilation valvel, input signal
• 2FBC: Status: Intermittent - Check report for description.
• 2A94: Status: Intermittent - crankshaft sensor, signal
2 Car Access System Trouble Codes:
• A0B4: Status: History - fault enginestart starter
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