Acceptable horsepower for jb4-intakes-downpipes?

Serf27 · 08-25-2019, 03:54 AM

Hey everyone, I took my car to dyno and want to know what you all think of the numbers I received with my mods.

Mods are:
Jb4 map 5
2.5” downpipes
Secondary cats in place with PE muffler mod.
BMS DCI filters
1.5 step colder autolite plugs gapped at .22
And e85 mixture. Fuel tank was filled up with 4 gallons of e85 and the rest with 91oct.

On the 4th pull I made 384 whp and 433 Torque.

Being I had some wrong settings on the jb4, I’m sure I would’ve made more if all my settings were correct on the first pull.

An online calculator and the shop owner said that’s about 480hp crank power.

Does that sound about right?

Thanks.

Bimmer_Engineer · 08-25-2019, 09:09 AM

I think 480 at the crank sounds optimistic...

bimmerguy1210 · 08-25-2019, 04:44 PM

Around 450hp and 500ft/lbs at the crank

type-dRew · 08-26-2019, 06:43 AM

Id be happy with those numbers on a stock intercooler car using 91 on a light blend.

mike@x-ph.com · 08-26-2019, 12:00 PM

Without a baseline dyno, the numbers you got are meaningless unfortunately

srey · 08-26-2019, 12:33 PM

The only acceptable horsepower is all the horsepower #sendit

NoGuru · 08-26-2019, 02:07 PM

Manual or Auto?
If you factor 15% for Drive-train you sit at 441 at the crank.

Serf27 · 08-26-2019, 03:59 PM

Thanks all for the replies.
Its an AT n54.

I am happy with the numbers, just curious to see if they were where the car should be at or if something was lacking.

An online formula Said crank power multiplied by .80 for auto is the whp.
So 480 crank hp x .8=384 whp.

I don’t know if it’s a correct or true formula.

But 384.68 Whp and 433.77 Torque is what was actually measured.
This was at about 16-17psi on stock turbos.

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 08-26-2019, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serf27

Thanks all for the replies.
Its an AT n54.

I am happy with the numbers, just curious to see if they were where the car should be at or if something was lacking.

An online formula Said crank power multiplied by .80 for auto is the whp.
So 480 crank hp x .8=384 whp.

I don’t know if it’s a correct or true formula.

But 384.68 Whp and 433.77 Torque is what was actually measured.
This was at about 16-17psi on stock turbos.

20% is quite large. Most find the loss around ~12%.

Dyno's are typically used for the delta, IE the difference between changes. Without a baseline, you just have another number.

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Serf27 Brigadier General 2879 Rep 4,332 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Sitting in a BMW. iTrader: (-1)	Acceptable horsepower for jb4-intakes-downpipes? Hey everyone, I took my car to dyno and want to know what you all think of the numbers I received with my mods. Mods are: Jb4 map 5 2.5” downpipes Secondary cats in place with PE muffler mod. BMS DCI filters 1.5 step colder autolite plugs gapped at .22 And e85 mixture. Fuel tank was filled up with 4 gallons of e85 and the rest with 91oct. On the 4th pull I made 384 whp and 433 Torque. Being I had some wrong settings on the jb4, I’m sure I would’ve made more if all my settings were correct on the first pull. An online calculator and the shop owner said that’s about 480hp crank power. Does that sound about right? Thanks. Last edited by Serf27; 08-25-2019 at 04:00 AM..
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Serf27 Brigadier General 2879 Rep 4,332 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Sitting in a BMW. iTrader: (-1)	Thanks all for the replies. Its an AT n54. I am happy with the numbers, just curious to see if they were where the car should be at or if something was lacking. An online formula Said crank power multiplied by .80 for auto is the whp. So 480 crank hp x .8=384 whp. I don’t know if it’s a correct or true formula. But 384.68 Whp and 433.77 Torque is what was actually measured. This was at about 16-17psi on stock turbos.
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