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      09-01-2008, 08:14 PM   #1
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Question Using Summer Tires All Year Round W/ AWD?

kind of off topic but my mom has an acura rdx. i live in NY so i get all 4 seasons. her oem runflats are due soon and i am thinking about getting her the vredstein suv tires but they are summer tires.

even though they are summer tires can my mom use them all year round (snow/ice) b/c the awd will back it up? might be a dumb question but i just need to ask and get an expert answer.

any opinions on tires for the acura (the oem are run flat like bmw, so i want to use non runflat)
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No. The rubber compound is not setup for the low temps.
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no. the AWD will do nothing to compensate for the fact the tire compound will harden when cold. AWD may be able to get the car going, but on summer tires, there will be very little to no grip in terms of stopping and turning.

on my AWD S60R i switched between summer and winter tires because the summer tires had no grip even with just a dusting of snow. i was breaking loose the goodyear F1s loose when it was cold and dry out under straight line acceleration
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Summer tires in the winter with icy roads gonna wear out your brakes really fast since your gonna stomp on the brakes and it wont really stop well and the ABS will kick in making grinding noise.
Not sure with my 335xi but i had a 04 TL and 05 Maxima and both of the brakes went bad after 2 days in snow on all season tires.

Its not hte going fact that hurts the car, its the stopping issue that is hard to do with all season tires. All 4 wheels will just go sliding down with speed+no grip
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Absolutely not!! AWD is NOT a substitute for proper tires. Please don't even try it.

If anyone suggests you can, they 100%, absolutely and without a doubt have never tried it.
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don't use summer tires in the winter, regardless of drivetrain. you'll hurt yourself and/or damage your vehicle
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+1 I have a similar SUV (RAV4 AWD) and can tell you its a bad idea!

Do not get her summer tires. Get her All Seasons she can use year round, she will be absolutely fine in NY area on those. I used my all seasons last winter in NY and used them this summer in NY too. On my 335i, I had on Blizzark winters and stock ZSP for summer. Its the least I could have done. I tried to keep the stock ZSPs on, but that proved impossible to drive on. SUV was fine though, no need for winters on it. Summers do get too hard and flintstone-like.
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kind of off topic but my mom has an acura rdx. i live in NY so i get all 4 seasons. her oem runflats are due soon and i am thinking about getting her the vredstein suv tires but they are summer tires.

even though they are summer tires can my mom use them all year round (snow/ice) b/c the awd will back it up? might be a dumb question but i just need to ask and get an expert answer.

any opinions on tires for the acura (the oem are run flat like bmw, so i want to use non runflat)
errr... are you sure the RDX has runflats?

i'm pretty sure their OE tires are regular tires.

there arent that many choices in the standard sizes, probably best to stick with the OEM tires.

side note, what part of SUMMER tires is ambiguous?
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I know for a fact RDX has regular OEM tires you are absolutely right about that. But yes you can indeed get RFT for an RDX. My Toyota dealer offers RFT (at an extra cost ) to those who want them, and offered me the option on my RAV4. I said no, as my RAV4 comes stock with non RFT all seasons and a full size spare, so why spend extra when I didn't need it at all?

I am sure OP can get the same tires they get for the RAV4. I don't even know what tire they were going to get me or what they do with the stock tires that come mounted from the factory, but to me, it sounded like a money making scheme not "Choice for the customer" as they spun it. Maybe his Acura dealer is feeding him same BS? Man you'd think people did not drive before RFT were available. The touted safety is exaggerated, unless you are too damn lazy to drive to a safe zone and change the damn tire! How often do you get a flat anyway? I only had one flat last winter, which is the only one I have had last 5yrs for all I can remember.

BTW, I didn't even have to change my tire. The TPMS warning came on, I drove the Toyota RAV4 to gas station to check the air, and discovered a large nail in the tire. The repair guy removed the nail and sealed the tire still mounted on my car, and I drove off a few minutes later, and the wheel still on 5 months later without loosing any air at all.
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the oem acura rdx tire size is x4 235/55/18 ($952+shipping). looking at both bridgestone pole position and eagle gt they both don't offer the size. can i bump up to x4 245 tires?
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As noted above, you will only ever drive with summer tires in the snow once, as its the definition of terrifying
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the oem acura rdx tire size is x4 235/55/18 ($952+shipping). looking at both bridgestone pole position and eagle gt they both don't offer the size. can i bump up to x4 245 tires?
You could go with a 245/50/18 tire and be fine. However, I'm not entirely sure about clearance issues, but a 245/50/18 would be the correct rolling diameter you need.
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You could go with a 245/50/18 tire and be fine. However, I'm not entirely sure about clearance issues, but a 245/50/18 would be the correct rolling diameter you need.
thanks guys. any negatives of using x4 245/50/18 size compared to oem? can't be much right? the tires will be uhpas tires.
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thanks guys. any negatives of using x4 245/50/18 size compared to oem? can't be much right? the tires will be uhpas tires.
UHPAS will have less snow grip and a less comfy ride than HPAS.

its a sliding scale, the more toward the UHP side you go, the less pliant and less snow grip you get, the firmer the ride and more dry grip. and vice versa.

for example, i would never get my dad the tires i run. he doesnt drive hard, he wants a comfortable tire with good traction, so i would look at high performance all seasons or even grand touring all seasons.

it sounds like you're shopping for tires for your mom, and your mom has no idea what you are getting her into. she might hate the tires you choose, but you may love them because they handle well.
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kind of off topic but my mom has an acura rdx. i live in NY so i get all 4 seasons. her oem runflats are due soon and i am thinking about getting her the vredstein suv tires but they are summer tires.

even though they are summer tires can my mom use them all year round (snow/ice) b/c the awd will back it up? might be a dumb question but i just need to ask and get an expert answer.

any opinions on tires for the acura (the oem are run flat like bmw, so i want to use non runflat)
Tried that and not a good idea. It's like running on fire w/o shoes
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