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      03-31-2020, 04:29 PM   #1
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335i N54 Smog & Decibel Test?Cali

So im from Cali and my cars completely stock. I want to purchase the VRSF 3.5" Street Catback Exhaust And the 3" Catted Downpipes.
My 2 Questions are: will I pass smog check with this setup? & will I also pass a Decibel test if its too loud?

I cannot find a decibel reading with this setup or the vrsf Street Catback and stock downpipes alone :/ I searched literally everywhere for these questions and absolutely nothing plus contacted vrsf through email and nothing. Its a real concern for me and need help Thankyou guys in advance!
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You won't pass a legit smog test in CA with ANY changes to the downpipes.

If you don't want to worry about or swap back for every test, just leave the stock downpipes and upgrade the exhaust.

Or go catless downpipes and just make sure you know a guy.
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You won't pass a legit smog test in CA with ANY changes to the downpipes.

If you don't want to worry about or swap back for every test, just leave the stock downpipes and upgrade the exhaust.

Or go catless downpipes and just make sure you know a guy.
I dont know a guy for those things sadly do you? lol, and I thought VRSF Catted downpipes would have a chance at passing smog or another brand of catted downpipes would atleast
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
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All the shops in the OC area have been getting shut down lately so everyone is on edge, might have to wait it out for a bit till things get back to normal. I'm also assuming most shops across the state have been feeling the heat from the feds too.
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If I lived in Cali I'd either not modify my car or move. No other options.
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
There is still(and always has been) an exhaust decibel law/level. It is 95db I think, but it is not really enforced (hard to test properly, was only enforced at the beg of last year when they could actually write you a ticket on the spot, now its back to they can only refer you to a referee station).

OP, don't worry about decibel level, it isn't enforced and cant really be enforced. I have an Eisenmann Race exhaust that is loud A.F. and have never been stopped by police, even last year when they were enforcing the newly changed sound limit law.

And yeah catted downpipes still are not technically legal, although you MIGHT get them to pass the OBD monitor readiness test. Best bet is to just install stock down pipes when you have to smog, that's what I do
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If I lived in Cali I'd either not modify my car or move. No other options.
It's hard not to modify our cars, and as for moving well... can't say I don't debate it lol
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
Okay let me know if you pass smog with catted vrsf downpipes and stock exhaust bro that would help me figure this out alot better. And why are you selling the vrsf street exhaust if i may ask?
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All the shops in the OC area have been getting shut down lately so everyone is on edge, might have to wait it out for a bit till things get back to normal. I'm also assuming most shops across the state have been feeling the heat from the feds too.
Oh really, Probably the same is happening in my area ill have to check it out when i do and let you know
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
There is still(and always has been) an exhaust decibel law/level. It is 95db I think, but it is not really enforced (hard to test properly, was only enforced at the beg of last year when they could actually write you a ticket on the spot, now its back to they can only refer you to a referee station).

OP, don't worry about decibel level, it isn't enforced and cant really be enforced. I have an Eisenmann Race exhaust that is loud A.F. and have never been stopped by police, even last year when they were enforcing the newly changed sound limit law.

And yeah catted downpipes still are not technically legal, although you MIGHT get them to pass the OBD monitor readiness test. Best bet is to just install stock down pipes when you have to smog, that's what I do
Oh i see yea ill take your advice not gonna worry about that honestly man lifes too short lol and isnt it like a fix it ticket is that what you meant?
As for the downpipes I think im gonna do what you said about switching them when its time to smog although arent there 2 Cats in the down pipes and 2 cats in the mid pipe of the stock exhaust so i would probably have to put the whole stock exhaust back if i dont pass with only the stock downpipes and vrsf catback exhaust.
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
Okay let me know if you pass smog with catted vrsf downpipes and stock exhaust bro that would help me figure this out alot better. And why are you selling the vrsf street exhaust if i may ask?
Trying to look as stock as possible when it comes to emission. I really enjoyed the VRSF exhaust but just want to run the stock exhaust. I have hybrid turbos and I've read that the stock is exhaust is good for plenty of power. I noticed a little difference between the catless DPs/VRSF exhaust and catted pipes/stock exhaust. But the piece of mind is worth it, plus I didn't like the excessive fuel smell.
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
Okay let me know if you pass smog with catted vrsf downpipes and stock exhaust bro that would help me figure this out alot better. And why are you selling the vrsf street exhaust if i may ask?
Trying to look as stock as possible when it comes to emission. I really enjoyed the VRSF exhaust but just want to run the stock exhaust. I have hybrid turbos and I've read that the stock is exhaust is good for plenty of power. I noticed a little difference between the catless DPs/VRSF exhaust and catted pipes/stock exhaust. But the piece of mind is worth it, plus I didn't like the excessive fuel smell.
Yea gonna try to look stock forsure, btw does vrsf Street Catback actually sound good in person or bad ? And how much louder is it compared to stock ?
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
Okay let me know if you pass smog with catted vrsf downpipes and stock exhaust bro that would help me figure this out alot better. And why are you selling the vrsf street exhaust if i may ask?
Trying to look as stock as possible when it comes to emission. I really enjoyed the VRSF exhaust but just want to run the stock exhaust. I have hybrid turbos and I've read that the stock is exhaust is good for plenty of power. I noticed a little difference between the catless DPs/VRSF exhaust and catted pipes/stock exhaust. But the piece of mind is worth it, plus I didn't like the excessive fuel smell.
Yea gonna try to look stock forsure, btw does vrsf Street Catback actually sound good in person or bad ? And how much louder is it compared to stock ?
At first I wasn't a fan of the exhaust but then I grew on me. It's a little louder but nothing crazy. You won't stand out like those loud V8s.
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There is no more law for exhaust noise.

As for the exhaust setup, you will fail if you take it to the wrong place. I just removed my VRSF street exhaust (i'm selling it), reinstalled my stock exhaust and put the VRSF catted DPs. I'm planning to take to a smog guy I know to see what the tail pipe emissions are.
Okay let me know if you pass smog with catted vrsf downpipes and stock exhaust bro that would help me figure this out alot better. And why are you selling the vrsf street exhaust if i may ask?
Trying to look as stock as possible when it comes to emission. I really enjoyed the VRSF exhaust but just want to run the stock exhaust. I have hybrid turbos and I've read that the stock is exhaust is good for plenty of power. I noticed a little difference between the catless DPs/VRSF exhaust and catted pipes/stock exhaust. But the piece of mind is worth it, plus I didn't like the excessive fuel smell.
Yea gonna try to look stock forsure, btw does vrsf Street Catback actually sound good in person or bad ? And how much louder is it compared to stock ?
At first I wasn't a fan of the exhaust but then I grew on me. It's a little louder but nothing crazy. You won't stand out like those loud V8s.
Im good with it being a decent louder difference just not as loud as straight pipe forsure
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You won't fail for no rear cats I don't believe, but they will look for the primary cats in the down pipes for sure.

Yeah, it is just a fix it ticket for exhaust noise once again.
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You won't fail for no rear cats I don't believe, but they will look for the primary cats in the down pipes for sure.

Yeah, it is just a fix it ticket for exhaust noise once again.
Okay ill try with just the cats from Downpipes and see if that passes through man, and yea Gotta risk it for the buiscuit👌
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I have smogged in Cali 3x now with my DPs, using the DP fix, always on the first try. I remove the jb4, wire in the DP fix, drive the car as normal for a few days, and that’s it. Have had no issues, and this has been 3 random different shops.
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I have smogged in Cali 3x now with my DPs, using the DP fix, always on the first try. I remove the jb4, wire in the DP fix, drive the car as normal for a few days, and that’s it. Have had no issues, and this has been 3 random different shops.
Wow, that's crazy. Do the shops even pop the hood?
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I have smogged in Cali 3x now with my DPs, using the DP fix, always on the first try. I remove the jb4, wire in the DP fix, drive the car as normal for a few days, and that’s it. Have had no issues, and this has been 3 random different shops.
What do you mean by downpipe fix never heard of that, (new to this) and when you did so What downpipes/Exhaust system did you pass with exactly if I may ask, Thankyou!
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What do you mean by downpipe fix never heard of that, (new to this) and when you did so What downpipes/Exhaust system did you pass with exactly if I may ask, Thankyou!
DP fix is a device installed to trick the ECU thinking it has cats. Its recommended only to install when emission testing is needed, then removed during regular driving.

Here's one of them, https://www.ebay.com/i/164138289185?...algv%3DDefault
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What do you mean by downpipe fix never heard of that, (new to this) and when you did so What downpipes/Exhaust system did you pass with exactly if I may ask, Thankyou!
DP fix is a device installed to trick the ECU thinking it has cats. Its recommended only to install when emission testing is needed, then removed during regular driving.
Damn so Basically With absolutely no cats in the car primary or secondary I can pass smog easily with that device sounds good lol. I am also curious about visual inspection though
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